Hello List , We all have brick walls in researching. Most times it is about the county they lived in & the year involved. The counties were created & re-sized often. Many times the same location was in a different or now non existing county. The wonderful site below has most states from their beginning to very recent , showing the creation of it's counties. It is slow in loading , but oh so worth it. Pick your state , it starts from that states beginning , you will see all the years when a change occurred. Under the map you have 5 buttons 1) PLAY ( quickly moving thru the years) 2) STOP 3) VIEW 4) PREV 5 )NEXT . I just use the NEXT button , it allows you to read all that happened in the time frame. The areas not yet designated as a county are shaded in blue. You can see the state taking shape & growing. Also some counties listed are no longer counties today, names we never heard of !! You will be able to follow your counties growth or demise thru the years. PA started in 1673, Allegheny county in PA is very interesting to follow from original size to it's place in history today. Under the years listed are the abbreviations used in the set up. This why finding some missing relatives is so difficult , we need to know WHAT the county was called in a given time!! So in looking at a family in a given time frame look at the map & year to see just what the ground they ALWAYS lived on was called county-wise. Have a good look around for each state... lots of good info. Here is the site ; enjoy Julie B in NC http://www.familyhistory101.com/map_county.html
This is long but hopefully worth it. While searching all over trying to find my g-grandparents' wedding date in Chicago, I came across an interesting article in the Chicago Tribune archives. In a nutshell, it said that many couples from Chicago were travelling north to Milwaukee to get married in order to save the $2 license fee. That money was used instead for a steamboat trip up Lake Michigan to Milwaukee. For an additional $3 to cover the Justice's fee to marry them, streetcar fare and incidentals, the whole marriage could be done for about $5. The article estimates that over 1000 couples did this just between 1 May and 1 September of 1894, although only about 250 of those had been registered with the Deeds office when the article was written. The article then went on to list all 250 of those couples, including my g-grandparents. That was enough evidence for me to purchase a copy of the marriage record from the state of Wisconsin, which gave me another piece of info I needed - my g-g-grandmother's maiden name. I've transcribed the list from the article and added it below. I am convinced that the forms in the state records were filled out by the clerks, as my g-grandmother's name was misspelled (Noland vs. Nolan). So if you find something close (I had some problems distinguishing lowercase "i"s and "l"s, among others), or if you have run into the same problem I had - trying to find marriage records for around that timeframe in Chicago/Cook County - I would suggest a visit to wisconsinhistory.org to see if they actually got married in Milwaukee! Remember, the list below is only a partial list of those who went north to get hitched. Date in 1894; Groom; Bride; Celebrant 5 May; Frank J. Bendt; Anna Krause; Rev. George Hertz 5 May; Frank C. Morrow; Kunitunda Schubert; Justice M. B. Neelen 8 May; Robert J. Lewis; Annie Thorn; Rev. A. A. Kiehle 12 May; Frank A. Adams; Amelia Hammersand; Rev. Sabin Halsey 12 May; John R. Pomeroy; Mrs. Marie Smith; Justice Hayden 12 May; Egbert Whitemore; Jessie E. McKillop; Justice McWorther 16 May; Reinhold Wordrich; Louise Weber; Hirtz 17 May; James Kenna; Minnie Purcell; McWorther 20 May; William J. Powers; Annie Patterson; Kiehle 20 May; James Birney; Mary J. Smith; Halsey 21 May; Christian A. Geckler; Marina Ena; McWorther 21 May; August Laeffler; Babbetta Ziegler; Justice Walther 24 May; Frank W. Fullmer; Blanche F. Dale; Rev. August Pieper 25 May; Andrew J. Coshore; Ella R. Peterson; Neelen 26 May; Michael Lacas; Mathilda Ehrhardt; Hayden 1 Jun; Albert L. Glass; Delia Quinn; Hayden 2 Jun; Ralph P. Orlandine; Ida McDonald; Halsey 2 Jun; D. S. Benedict; Eliza A. Lilly; Rev. Frederick Evans 2 Jun; Cornelius Shea; Mary A. Grant; Rev. James D. Foley, S..J. 5 Jun; Samuel Magowan; Annie Patterson; Kiehle 6 Jun; Benjamin Franklin Hand; Evelyn Tyler; Rev. James Churn 7 Jun; William Llewllin; Louise M. Goessele; Julius Roehr 7 Jun; Morris Sallinger; Sarah Goldstein; Rev. Victor Caro 7 Jun; Frank H. Wing; Aggie Keegan; McWorther 7 Jun; James H. Ownes; Bertha Stockhouse; Halsey 9 Jun; Robert W. Herrick; Harriet P. Emory; Rev. Charles S. Lester 9 Jun; Joseph Sokups; Edith Herziger; McWorther 10 Jun; Louis C. Grandpre; Mary Gebhart; Rev. Edwin Richardson 10 Jun; Charles R. Warner; Sophia T. Brown; Halsey 10 Jun; Peter Esch Jr.; Katie Ufar; Halsey 11 Jun; Mortimer C. Ambrose; Mrs. Ida L. Middower; Rev. E. L. Eaton 11 Jun; Paul M. Friedlander; Freda C. Buchner; Neelen 11 Jun; Robert Marchard; Lizzie Tremble; not listed 12 Jun; George Tellman; Belle Gavin; Rev. E. D. Huntley 12 Jun; Edward A. Emmous; Mary E. Wight; Rev. C. Iwart 13 Jun; Withers F. Sieivert; Henrietta Young; Rev. H. Springer 14 Jun; Robert F. Bullen; Mary C. Clark; Eaton 14 Jun; Charles W. Gray; Mary Fitzpatrick; Richardson 15 Jun; Burns G. Knapp; Mary T. Schoetes; Neelen 15 Jun; Arthur A. Simmons; Addie N. Patchin; Evans 16 Jun; Ira H. Whipple; Ida Dickenson; McWorther 16 Jun Frank M. Crane; Anna W. Huckins; Kiehle 16 Jun; Albert A. Hardt; Mathilda Hardt; Pieper 17 Jun; Charles R. Nelson; Minnie Marshall; Huntley 17 Jun; Gustave Mintz; Sarah Beekof; Rabbi Solomon Bauer 18 Jun; Henry H. Davis; Harriet E. Johnson; Rev. W. J. Patton 18 Jun; Louis Mulschetly; Nellie Bollow; McWorther 18 Jun; Jacob W. Seitz; Emma B. Foster; Kiehle 19 Jun; Britton E. West; Clara E. Thompson; Halsey 19 Jun; Charles Wightman; Ada E. Brown; Halsey 20 Jun; F. Gresenschlag; Emma Ribbe; Judge Emil Waiber 20 Jun; Henry F. Shining; Dola M. Porter; Neelen 20 Jun; Albert Riehman; Rosszella Lytle; Kiehle 21 Jun; Harry D. Budkie; Mrs. Mary Kaiser; Hayden 23 Jun; Henry Hardmeyer; Mary Van Sickle; Halsey 23 Jun; Charles Rapp; Louise Hannann; Halsey 23 Jun; Thomas J. Wills ; Minnie Wills; Halsey 23 Jun; Addison D. Loucks; Lillian Brown; Lester 23 Jun; John Guetgesell; Mathilda Redman; Rev. F. Uplegger 24 Jun; William A. Osborne; Ada C. Fessler; Huntley 24 Jun; Linns A. Paddock; Phoebe E. Rothfuss; not listed 24 Jun; Victor A. Ingraham; Getrude T. Hanson; Rev. B. Sherin 24 Jun; Joseph J. Foley; Mary D. Carter; McWorther 24 Jun; Frank R. Labadie; Leah Fraser; Richardson 24 Jun; Robert G. Palmer; Julia Simon; Richardson 24 Jun; Alvah Luther; Annie Giles; Rev. E. W. White 24 Jun; Edmund A. Wilson; Mrs. Metta McCanomon; Rev. Issac Corry 25 Jun; Fritz Schmid; Adelhan Denzel; Justice Treis 26 Jun; William C. Lynch; Alice C. Davis; Halsey 26 Jun; John P. McDowell; Harriet E. Miner; Halsey 26 Jun; Sheldon R. Seymour; Maggie Gillespie; Halsey 26 Jun; Chester Batcheler; Pheba A. Runyan; Hayden 26 Jun; Cyrus R. Bonehard; Kate Portman; Hayden 27 Jun; Frank D. Holmes; Anna Skobles; Rev. M. B. Ryan 28 Jun; Charles A. Denlin; Orpha P. Mason; Eaton 28 Jun; Edward W. Mangson; Gertrude E. Brigdon; Eaton 28 Jun; Howard H. Bonn; Frankla B. Moore; Justice Walthers 29 Jun; Joseph S. Steinmetz; Mary Walsh; Halsey 30 Jun; Henry Kohler; Carrie Wood; Neelen 30 Jun; Ambrose Lanigan; Christini Johnson; Halsey 30 Jun; Frank D. Stocking; Alice Turbett; Hayden 1 Jul; William J. Tracy; Kittie Boland; McWorther 1 Jul; Lee W. Church; Bessie Beattie; Halsey 1 Jul; Henry M. Cohen; Mary Luettner; Halsey 1 Jul; Charles T. Sleeper; Angeline King; Halsey 2 Jul; Daniel Manning; Emma Bennett; McWorther 2 Jul; Edward Lowy; Alice H. Briggs; Rev. Henry T. Secrist 2 Jul; William F. Stamm; Blanche V. Fair; Walthers 2 Jul; Henry W. Paeper; Ada V. Slawson 3 Jul; Joseph W. Pickens; Harriet Ribeling; Huntley 3 Jul; Matthew Cummings; Ella Larson; Halsey 3 Jul; William A. Thompson; Harriet E. Wells; Halsey 3 Jul; Carl Eberlein; Beatrice Walt; Hayden 4 Jul; James W. Nishbet; Emily Wallace; Rev. W. A. McKillop 4 Jul; George Cranston; Sara Pepin; McWorther 4 Jul; Francis A. Breese; Julia Noland; Halsey 4 Jul; Rudolph L. Hayer; Minnie Rentsch; Halsey 4 Jul; Francis J. Rucavado; Susie A. OReilly; Halsey 4 Jul; Donald Rosie Jr.; Mary Hanlon; Halsey 4 Jul; Frank J. Thomas; Hattie Sweet; Halsey 5 Jul; Charles Eric Spaak; Anna G. Hessler; Rev. W. K. Frick 5 Jul; Wilhelm V. Schuette; Clara Reiss; Mgr. Leonard Batz 5 Jul; John A. Brayson; Delia Craygan; McWorther 5 Jul; Edwin F. Brookfield; Fannie Bissell; Hayden 5 Jul; John Wischemeyer; Emily Brisebois; not listed 7 Jul; James T. Hassett Jr.; Alice I. King; Halsey 7 Jul; Carl Klasmann; Lulu G. Leighton; Hayden 7 Jul; Jeremiah OBrien; Olga Widgren; Hayden 8 Jul; Wilson S. Jones; Elsie E. Fish; Lester 8 Jul; Ernest F. Wayne; Kittie Holton; Hayden 8 Jul; John F. Parker; Mary E. Bancroft; Richardson 8 Jul; Bernhard Meyer Jr.; Mary Sprangel; Halsey 8 Jul; James R. McWilliams; Josephine Russell; Halsey 8 Jul; William E. Wilber; Mabel Puetlberg; Halsey 9 Jul; August Behn; Gertrude Jewell; Halsey 10 Jul; Herman Burgheim; Leonora D. Goldman; Justice Bornzak 10 Jul; Francis D. Macara; Laura A. Johnes ; Rev. Theo Jaekel 10 Jul ; Carl E. Davis ; Clara G. Dauphin; Halsey 10 Jul; Oscar Long; Ebba Frederickson; Huntley 11 Jul; Robert J. Dauphney; Mary J. Bryson; Iwart 11 Jul; Albert L. DeLamater; Mary Hill; Rev. Edgar L. Gee 11 Jul; Jophtha S. Dudley; Henrietta A. Bronston; Lester 12 Jul; Emil J. Sie; Clara Gauber; Huntley 12 Jul; John C. Wamser; Maud G. Bennett; Kiehle 12 Jul; Edward Hinckley; Maggie Fitzgerald; McWorther 12 Jul; Walter E. Bennis; Zella G. Smith; Halsey 14 Jul; James J. Corcoran; Catherine Donovan; McWorther 14 Jul; John Shelton; Emma Martin; Hayden 14 Jul; Charles O. Stemberg; Josie Schulz; Hayden 15 Jul; Louis S. Thoman; Bertha Brunner; Walthers 15 Jul; George A. Tirrell; Margaret Hodges; Kiehle 15 Jul; George J. Hilton; Catherine Joyce; White 15 Jul; Frank Baur; Gertrude Watschek; Halsey 15 Jul; Charles E. Stender; Nellie Beck; Halsey 16 Jul; Julius R. Lornze; Anna McCann; Justice McClintock 16 Jul; Frank E. Lawrence; Annie Davis; McWorther 17 Jul; William Connery; Kate Ford; Walthers 17 Jul; Albert J. Kuehn; Margaretha Schildein; Walthers 17 Jul; Charles S. Miller; Maude Lawther; Walthers 17 Jul; John Herdigen; Alice Snyder; McWorther 17 Jul; George G. Carter; Esther L. Reed; Halsey 17 Jul; Philip Morey; Annie Rectles; Halsey 18 Jul; Samuel E. Barr; Jennie Crawford; Halsey 18 Jul; William W. Brown; Jennie Madison; Halsey 18 Jul; Charles Rayman; Jessie D. Tobin; Halsey 19 Jul; Eric J. Edlund; Mary M. Ostron; Walthers 19 Jul; Israel H. Batchelder; Annie Grokin; McWorther 19 Jul; Edward Schach; Mamie G. Johnson; Halsey 21 Jul; Jacob A. Barkey; Jessie L. Boyd; Walthers 21 Jul; John F. Alexander; Bella Carland; Lester 21 Jul; James L. Mead; Cora Van Ness; Huntley 22 Jul; Henry Zuckerman; Lizzie M. Schultz; not listed 22 Jul; James T. Collins; Amanda Pearson; Rev. William M. Corckey 22 Jul; John D. Rosie; Ida M. Edwards; Richardson 22 Jul; Edward C. Beurck; Emma M. Robinson; Halsey 22 Jul; Charles M. Marden; Tullie Hunt; Halsey 22 Jul; William R. Mabee; Elizabeth Allen; Halsey 22 Jul; John F. Nagel; Myrtle M. Lefever; Halsey 22 Jul; Charles Fiefenthal; Mary L. Hitchcock; Halsey 22 Jul; John B. Olson, Jr.; Lena B. Christianson; Hayden 24 Jul; Frederick A. Colbourne; Geraldine B. Byfield; Walthers 24 Jul; Jacob P. Miller; Elizabeth Marggraf; McWorther 24 Jul; George W. Tewilliger; Elizabeth Kinsey; Hayden 25 Jul; Max E. Gotscheid; Ida M. Connegiser; Rev. Charles Grann 25 Jul; Adolph A. Macaland; Mary Baumrak; Court Commissioner Harper 26 Jul; Robert B. Stanley; Grace Booth; Justice Parsons 26 Jul; James F. Hackett; Bertha Schockett; Halsey 26 Jul; William B. Moffett; Arvilla Bell; Halsey 26 Jul; Chatman V. Dean; Hattie M. Hoffman; Hayden 26 Jul; Aaron Stern; Bertha Zobel; McWorther 27 Jul; Axer V. Hoglund; Hulda L. Bergquist; White 27 Jul; Edward Syske; Lillie Hillberth; McWorther 28 Jul; James S. Nodine; Florence M. Bryant; Richardson 28 Jul; Louis Henry; Josephine Maurer; Parsons 28 Jul; Louis Wald; Anna Young; Parsons 28 Jul; Norma T. Krause; Mamie E. Murphy; Halsey 29 Jul; G. J. Pleck; Frances Slinner; Hirtz 29 Jul; John Braeske; Tilly M. Leib; Walthers 29 Jul; Joseph McMardis; Matilda Richardson; Halsey 29 Jul; William H. Spring; Catherine Hannejshin; Halsey 29 Jul; Fredrick L. Mahoney; Ethel McClayton; Hayden 30 Jul; Robert A. Steltz; Mamie Collbeck; McWorther 31 Jul; Elmar H. Grace; Clara T. Benren; Rev. O. H. Lee 31 Jul; Hugh E. Bradshaw; Elizabeth R. Tirrell; Hayden 1 Aug; Idos Ringer; Josline Smith; Huntley 1 Aug; Max G. Isaacs; Charlotte G. Reynolds; Rev. Otto Humphreys 1 Aug; James L. Abrahams; Edith L. Dundas; Lester 2 Aug; Feodor Sommer; Rose Kisher; McWorther 2 Aug; Morris Klein; Carrie Bauer; Parsons 2 Aug; George T. Sexsmith; Jessie A. Burdeck; Rev. E. Purdon Wright 3 Aug; Charles R. Moore; Emilie Fritz; McWorther 4 Aug; William Madsen; Kathryn Scholfeld; McWorther 4 Aug; August H. Bergdahl; Amelia Erickson; Huntley 4 Aug; Charles G. Thorp; Matilda P. Lucas; Eaton 5 Aug; George Smith; Mary Magdalene Arle; McWorther 6 Aug; William L. Johnson; Carrie Strong; McWorther 6 Aug; Edward P. Hait; Isaiah Webster; Rev. G. L. Lumper 6 Aug; William H. Richards; Nellie Hammer; Lester 7 Aug; Louis Messner; Eliza Nehls; McWorther 7 Aug; Bernhard Vonderwahl; Wilhelmine Nehs; McWorther 7 Aug; George C. Paynton; Anna Kasten; Huntley 7 Aug; William H. McConnell; Anna McDonald; Lester 8 Aug; David A. Lindsay, Jr.; Mary Clark; McWorther 8 Aug; James M. Window; Maggie Mealy; McWorther 8 Aug; Alof Klinger; Christinn Thompson; Lee 11 Aug; John D. Irwin; Jennie Garrity; Wright 11 Aug; Henry M. Schoeb; Mary Dacy; McWorther 11 Aug; James Nishbet; Alice Westerling; Humphreys 12 Aug; Harry U. Bight; Annie Solys; McWorther 13 Aug; Fred W. Brothers; Edna A. Aldrich; Rev. Aug. C. Bendler 13 Aug; August W. Vaux; Whilemeny Kietfer; Wright 14 Aug; Frank B. Hedbeerg; Ida L. Hanson; McWorther 14 Aug; Perry D. Probert; Hattie E. Hallock; Parsons 14 Aug; John F. Gooding; Lottie Fletcher; McWorther 15 Aug; Charles H. Gritter; Nellie Burnann; Ryan 15 Aug; Joseph H. Zimmerman; Nellie P. Mech; Justice Taff 15 Aug; Ora Hebble; Katie Haggemeyer; not listed 18 Aug; John H. Golden; Alpha Bacon; Huntley 19 Aug; Lewis G. Squire; Maggie Eiffin; Rev. G. D. Henver 21 Aug; William Kolb; Alvina Wahl; Huntley 26 Aug; John D. Sloan; Rose McKillop; Rev. H. Hayden, S. J. 30 Aug; Abraham Bass; Ester Hirshfield; not listed -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com
Hello Listers, I thought I'd let you know that one of the staff, possibly Cindy Richardson, of the Wilmette Family History Center will be one of the guest speakers at the Czech & Slovak American Genealogy Society of IL's March 28, 2009 workshop to be held at the LaGrange Presbyterian Church located in LaGrange. What a great opportunity to learn about all the fabulous information that's becoming available online. For information go to the society's website www.csagsi.org Judie Mason Chicago
Hello Listers, I thought I'd let you know that one of the staff, possibly Cindy Richardson, of the Wilmette Family History Center will be one of the guest speakers at the Czech & Slovak American Genealogy Society of IL's March 28, 2009 workshop to be held at the LaGrange Presbyterian Church located in LaGrange. What a great opportunity to learn about all the fabulous information that's becoming available online. For information go to the society's website www.csagsi.org Judie Mason Chicago
Hi Cathy, Google Books is only showing a preview of this book and it appears that only pages 1 through 38 are available online. I don't want you to be disappointed when you try to get past page 38. Sharon Clouse -----Original Message----- From: il-cook-chicago-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:il-cook-chicago-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Catherine Sherry Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:49 PM To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] IL-COOK-CHICAGO Digest, Vol 4, Issue 32 Chuck, The "Challenging Chicago" book is available to read online. Look for it at books.google.com. I've started reading it. Interesting historical perspective. Cathy
Chuck, The "Challenging Chicago" book is available to read online. Look for it at books.google.com. I've started reading it. Interesting historical perspective. Cathy On 3/2/09 3:01 AM, "il-cook-chicago-request@rootsweb.com" <il-cook-chicago-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Saloons in Cook County (charles tintera) > 2. Re: Saloons in Cook County (mary miller) > 3. Re: Saloons in Cook County (mary miller) > 4. Re: Saloons in Cook County (ChicagoGenealogy) > 5. Re: Saloons in Cook County (Salliezoo@aol.com) > 6. Re: Saloons in Cook County (Ellen Woods) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:35:21 -0500 > From: "charles tintera" <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> > Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <698E9E04A6DA4CEFB7E0E438BA6BC8AB@D1S6D691> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > RE Grandfather's Saloons in Cook County > > Thank you to everyone that replied. > > I will certainly try the IRAD and the Perry Duis books. > > I am also trying to access the Newberry Library to see if they have any > telephone books online from the early 1900's online and if those listings > (addresses) agree with the ones I have. > > I am surprised that there isn't more information available. The time span of > Prohibition in the US, 1920 to 1933, would have impinged on many if not most > of the family histories that we research. > > In May I am dragging my wife (kicking and screaming :)) to Chicago to visit > "home" and the places I remember or have meaning to my Family Tree. It will > be my first trip back since the early '80s. > > I make a living as a photographer and mean to bring back pictures of as many > locales, buildings, house, and churches, even graves, as I can reach in the > 3-4 days that we are there. > > Charles "Chuck" Tintera > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:04:22 -0600 > From: "mary miller" <edwardcmary@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <26B3F25173C54A7982221D30B1E1D6B4@mary> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > have you checked.. www.ancestorsorg.com under tools.. and the city > directories for chicago.. I am certain under the businesses Saloons are > listed as well as the owner s and addresses for the yrs. listed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "charles tintera" <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> > To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:35 AM > Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > > >> RE Grandfather's Saloons in Cook County >> >> Thank you to everyone that replied. >> >> I will certainly try the IRAD and the Perry Duis books. >> >> I am also trying to access the Newberry Library to see if they have any >> telephone books online from the early 1900's online and if those listings >> (addresses) agree with the ones I have. >> >> I am surprised that there isn't more information available. The time span >> of >> Prohibition in the US, 1920 to 1933, would have impinged on many if not >> most >> of the family histories that we research. >> >> In May I am dragging my wife (kicking and screaming :)) to Chicago to >> visit >> "home" and the places I remember or have meaning to my Family Tree. It >> will >> be my first trip back since the early '80s. >> >> I make a living as a photographer and mean to bring back pictures of as >> many >> locales, buildings, house, and churches, even graves, as I can reach in >> the >> 3-4 days that we are there. >> >> Charles "Chuck" Tintera >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:07:44 -0600 > From: "mary miller" <edwardcmary@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <2471F813E8B14452B2B40AA2B1B8CD00@mary> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Correction: www.ChicagoAncestors.org sorry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "charles tintera" <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> > To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:35 AM > Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > > >> RE Grandfather's Saloons in Cook County >> >> Thank you to everyone that replied. >> >> I will certainly try the IRAD and the Perry Duis books. >> >> I am also trying to access the Newberry Library to see if they have any >> telephone books online from the early 1900's online and if those listings >> (addresses) agree with the ones I have. >> >> I am surprised that there isn't more information available. The time span >> of >> Prohibition in the US, 1920 to 1933, would have impinged on many if not >> most >> of the family histories that we research. >> >> In May I am dragging my wife (kicking and screaming :)) to Chicago to >> visit >> "home" and the places I remember or have meaning to my Family Tree. It >> will >> be my first trip back since the early '80s. >> >> I make a living as a photographer and mean to bring back pictures of as >> many >> locales, buildings, house, and churches, even graves, as I can reach in >> the >> 3-4 days that we are there. >> >> Charles "Chuck" Tintera >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:39:56 -0600 > From: ChicagoGenealogy <chicagogenealogy@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <49AABA5C.8060801@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Footnote.com offers a nice way to search, save, and print city directory > pages, too. It's a subscription site, but you should be able to get free > access with a visit to your local Family History Center. > > Cynthia > > mary miller wrote: >> Correction: www.ChicagoAncestors.org sorry > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:47:22 EST > From: Salliezoo@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cff.4d9fbafe.36dc404a@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I too have found info about saloons in Cicero scarce. My grandfather also > owned a saloon in 1930 and so far I haven't found any resources to help me > with the search. At least you have a saloon name and address...I don't have > that either. I was hoping to find it under his name (Joe Benda) somewhere. > All > I know is the saloon was in Cicero. I've read the suggested books and am > currently reading every Capone era book I can find hoping to find something. > I > do know he was "supposedly" confronted by one of Capone's henchmen > (regarding his home brewery in the basement) from a story my mother once told > me. But > not sure how reliable that story is. > > I think the phone directory is a good idea. Where does one find directories > from that era online? I live in Hawaii so its a long haul to search in > person. > > Aloha, Sallie > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http: > %2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID > %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:31:37 -0600 > From: "Ellen Woods" <eclairerw@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <B00EF7D879C342C6BDAFC7D8264C6EF2@OfficeDFCPHR91> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Diana, I agree. This book is a must-read, and really fascinating! > > Ellen > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dianna Saracco-Farish" <DFARISH@ec.rr.com> > To: <lkushgen@verizon.net>; <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > > >> hi Thanks for posting the names of theses books! >> Being from Chicago and having deep roots, this sounds like interesting >> reading! >> >> Dianna >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Linda Kush" <lkushgen@verizon.net> >> To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County >> >> >>> Hi Chuck: >>> >>> This won't be specific to your grandfather, but for a little insight into >>> what his business might have been like, try this excellent book: >>> >>> The Saloon: Public drinking in Chicago and Boston 1880 to 1920, by Perry >>> Duis. University of Illinois Press 1983 >>> >>> Duis also wrote "Challenging Chicago," a must-read for anyone whose >>> ancestors lived in Chicago in the 19th century. >>> >>> I imagine both are widely available. I got them from the Boston public >>> library. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Linda in Boston >>> >>> --- On Thu, 2/26/09, charles tintera <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> wrote: >>> From: charles tintera <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> >>> Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County >>> To: IL-COOK-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 11:29 PM >>> >>> My Grandfather, father's side, owned or ran a saloon on the east side of >>> Cicero before prohibition. I have the address and Google Maps, >>> Street-view, >>> shows the building still there though derelict. >>> >>> >>> >>> Are there any records pertaining to saloons? Liquor licenses? Tax >>> records? >>> Could they be a source of information? >>> >>> >>> >>> TIA >>> >>> cvt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Charles "Chuck" Tintera >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IL-COOK-CHICAGO list administrator, send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IL-COOK-CHICAGO mailing list, send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IL-COOK-CHICAGO Digest, Vol 4, Issue 32 > ********************************************** -- Go Cats!
The Chicago Historical Society is now known as The Chicago History Museum. Dave B David T Buzzek You cannot soar with the eagles during the day if you hoot with the owls at night! --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Salliezoo@aol.com <Salliezoo@aol.com> wrote: > From: Salliezoo@aol.com <Salliezoo@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 3:52 AM > thanks for the tip...I will give the Chicago Historical > Society a try > regarding the saloons. Much appreciated! > > Aloha, > Sallie Wald > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See > yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID > %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message
thanks for the tip...I will give the Chicago Historical Society a try regarding the saloons. Much appreciated! Aloha, Sallie Wald **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)
Aloha Sallie, Aren't you the lucky lady living in such a dream local ;o). I'd suggest trying to contact the Chicago Historical Society, If anybody would have listings for the 1920-30's that's where I'd start, Happy bar "saloon" hopping !!! I wish you luck ;o) --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Salliezoo@aol.com <Salliezoo@aol.com> wrote: From: Salliezoo@aol.com <Salliezoo@aol.com> Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 1:47 PM I too have found info about saloons in Cicero scarce. My grandfather also owned a saloon in 1930 and so far I haven't found any resources to help me with the search. At least you have a saloon name and address...I don't have that either. I was hoping to find it under his name (Joe Benda) somewhere. All I know is the saloon was in Cicero. I've read the suggested books and am currently reading every Capone era book I can find hoping to find something. I do know he was "supposedly" confronted by one of Capone's henchmen (regarding his home brewery in the basement) from a story my mother once told me. But not sure how reliable that story is. I think the phone directory is a good idea. Where does one find directories from that era online? I live in Hawaii so its a long haul to search in person. Aloha, Sallie **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Diana, I agree. This book is a must-read, and really fascinating! Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dianna Saracco-Farish" <DFARISH@ec.rr.com> To: <lkushgen@verizon.net>; <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > hi Thanks for posting the names of theses books! > Being from Chicago and having deep roots, this sounds like interesting > reading! > > Dianna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Kush" <lkushgen@verizon.net> > To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > > >> Hi Chuck: >> >> This won't be specific to your grandfather, but for a little insight into >> what his business might have been like, try this excellent book: >> >> The Saloon: Public drinking in Chicago and Boston 1880 to 1920, by Perry >> Duis. University of Illinois Press 1983 >> >> Duis also wrote "Challenging Chicago," a must-read for anyone whose >> ancestors lived in Chicago in the 19th century. >> >> I imagine both are widely available. I got them from the Boston public >> library. >> >> Best wishes, >> Linda in Boston >> >> --- On Thu, 2/26/09, charles tintera <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> wrote: >> From: charles tintera <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> >> Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County >> To: IL-COOK-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com >> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 11:29 PM >> >> My Grandfather, father's side, owned or ran a saloon on the east side of >> Cicero before prohibition. I have the address and Google Maps, >> Street-view, >> shows the building still there though derelict. >> >> >> >> Are there any records pertaining to saloons? Liquor licenses? Tax >> records? >> Could they be a source of information? >> >> >> >> TIA >> >> cvt >> >> >> >> >> >> Charles "Chuck" Tintera >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I too have found info about saloons in Cicero scarce. My grandfather also owned a saloon in 1930 and so far I haven't found any resources to help me with the search. At least you have a saloon name and address...I don't have that either. I was hoping to find it under his name (Joe Benda) somewhere. All I know is the saloon was in Cicero. I've read the suggested books and am currently reading every Capone era book I can find hoping to find something. I do know he was "supposedly" confronted by one of Capone's henchmen (regarding his home brewery in the basement) from a story my mother once told me. But not sure how reliable that story is. I think the phone directory is a good idea. Where does one find directories from that era online? I live in Hawaii so its a long haul to search in person. Aloha, Sallie **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)
Footnote.com offers a nice way to search, save, and print city directory pages, too. It's a subscription site, but you should be able to get free access with a visit to your local Family History Center. Cynthia mary miller wrote: > Correction: www.ChicagoAncestors.org sorry
Correction: www.ChicagoAncestors.org sorry ----- Original Message ----- From: "charles tintera" <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:35 AM Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > RE Grandfather's Saloons in Cook County > > Thank you to everyone that replied. > > I will certainly try the IRAD and the Perry Duis books. > > I am also trying to access the Newberry Library to see if they have any > telephone books online from the early 1900's online and if those listings > (addresses) agree with the ones I have. > > I am surprised that there isn't more information available. The time span > of > Prohibition in the US, 1920 to 1933, would have impinged on many if not > most > of the family histories that we research. > > In May I am dragging my wife (kicking and screaming :)) to Chicago to > visit > "home" and the places I remember or have meaning to my Family Tree. It > will > be my first trip back since the early '80s. > > I make a living as a photographer and mean to bring back pictures of as > many > locales, buildings, house, and churches, even graves, as I can reach in > the > 3-4 days that we are there. > > Charles "Chuck" Tintera > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
have you checked.. www.ancestorsorg.com under tools.. and the city directories for chicago.. I am certain under the businesses Saloons are listed as well as the owner s and addresses for the yrs. listed ----- Original Message ----- From: "charles tintera" <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:35 AM Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > RE Grandfather's Saloons in Cook County > > Thank you to everyone that replied. > > I will certainly try the IRAD and the Perry Duis books. > > I am also trying to access the Newberry Library to see if they have any > telephone books online from the early 1900's online and if those listings > (addresses) agree with the ones I have. > > I am surprised that there isn't more information available. The time span > of > Prohibition in the US, 1920 to 1933, would have impinged on many if not > most > of the family histories that we research. > > In May I am dragging my wife (kicking and screaming :)) to Chicago to > visit > "home" and the places I remember or have meaning to my Family Tree. It > will > be my first trip back since the early '80s. > > I make a living as a photographer and mean to bring back pictures of as > many > locales, buildings, house, and churches, even graves, as I can reach in > the > 3-4 days that we are there. > > Charles "Chuck" Tintera > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
RE Grandfather's Saloons in Cook County Thank you to everyone that replied. I will certainly try the IRAD and the Perry Duis books. I am also trying to access the Newberry Library to see if they have any telephone books online from the early 1900's online and if those listings (addresses) agree with the ones I have. I am surprised that there isn't more information available. The time span of Prohibition in the US, 1920 to 1933, would have impinged on many if not most of the family histories that we research. In May I am dragging my wife (kicking and screaming :)) to Chicago to visit "home" and the places I remember or have meaning to my Family Tree. It will be my first trip back since the early '80s. I make a living as a photographer and mean to bring back pictures of as many locales, buildings, house, and churches, even graves, as I can reach in the 3-4 days that we are there. Charles "Chuck" Tintera
hi Thanks for posting the names of theses books! Being from Chicago and having deep roots, this sounds like interesting reading! Dianna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Kush" <lkushgen@verizon.net> To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > Hi Chuck: > > This won't be specific to your grandfather, but for a little insight into > what his business might have been like, try this excellent book: > > The Saloon: Public drinking in Chicago and Boston 1880 to 1920, by Perry > Duis. University of Illinois Press 1983 > > Duis also wrote "Challenging Chicago," a must-read for anyone whose > ancestors lived in Chicago in the 19th century. > > I imagine both are widely available. I got them from the Boston public > library. > > Best wishes, > Linda in Boston > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, charles tintera <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > From: charles tintera <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> > Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County > To: IL-COOK-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 11:29 PM > > My Grandfather, father's side, owned or ran a saloon on the east side of > Cicero before prohibition. I have the address and Google Maps, > Street-view, > shows the building still there though derelict. > > > > Are there any records pertaining to saloons? Liquor licenses? Tax records? > Could they be a source of information? > > > > TIA > > cvt > > > > > > Charles "Chuck" Tintera > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Chuck: This won't be specific to your grandfather, but for a little insight into what his business might have been like, try this excellent book: The Saloon: Public drinking in Chicago and Boston 1880 to 1920, by Perry Duis. University of Illinois Press 1983 Duis also wrote "Challenging Chicago," a must-read for anyone whose ancestors lived in Chicago in the 19th century. I imagine both are widely available. I got them from the Boston public library. Best wishes, Linda in Boston --- On Thu, 2/26/09, charles tintera <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> wrote: From: charles tintera <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County To: IL-COOK-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 11:29 PM My Grandfather, father's side, owned or ran a saloon on the east side of Cicero before prohibition. I have the address and Google Maps, Street-view, shows the building still there though derelict. Are there any records pertaining to saloons? Liquor licenses? Tax records? Could they be a source of information? TIA cvt Charles "Chuck" Tintera ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This Ray/Maloney grave is probably the one. There may have been 2 graves together but Calvary gave us the list of names. The grave was bought for John Ray in 1864 by 2 of his sons. Then as folks died, they were buried there. Sad situtations but we were very proud to give them a nice headstone. Janice in North Florida > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:45:10 -0800 (PST) > From: Judith Mason <judith.mason@ameritech.net> > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] many bodies in grave > To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <942413.56062.qm@web80604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I recall Helen Sclair the "Cemetery Lady" saying > the cemetery with the most burials in one grave (not plot) > was at Calvary Cemetery with 10 (maybe 12). > ? > Judie Mason > Chicago > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, bessinger janice > <janmelb@yahoo.com> wrote: > > From: bessinger janice <janmelb@yahoo.com> > Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] many bodies in grave > To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 9:13 AM > > > My Malone/Moloney/Ray/Rea family found a grave in Calvary > with 21 bodies. > Actually it was probaly a couple of gravesites. The oldest > was buried in 1864 > and the latest was in 1933. There was no marker of any > kind visible so the > extended family raised the money and placed a nice but > simple marker with the > surnames. When it was being placed at the grave, as they > dug down, they found a > limestone marker with the surnames but no dates. > > BTW, many of the folks who contributed had met through the > genealogy on the > web. We found second, third cousins, etc. from Michigan to > Florida to > California. It has been fun. Good luck to all. Janice in > North Florida > looking for Illinois info on: > Maloney/Moloney > Ray/Rea > Foley > Caulfield > Thomson/Thompson > Czekala > Pawlak >
St. Adalbert Cemetery (Niles) does have a map they use to identify the current Section where a term grave was located, but they cannot determine precise term grave locations. Most, but not all, term sections have been identified. St. Adalbert ceased offering term graves circa 1965...I believe it had something to do with Vatican II. Ruth --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Anettka@aol.com <Anettka@aol.com> wrote: From: Anettka@aol.com <Anettka@aol.com> Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] IL-COOK-CHICAGO many bodies in grave To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 6:30 PM In a message dated 2/26/2009 3:39:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, il-cook-chicago-request@rootsweb.com writes: I recall Helen Sclair the "Cemetery Lady" saying the cemetery with the most burials in one grave (not plot) was at Calvary Cemetery with 10 (maybe 12). ************************** Basically they do that in Europe all the time since land in some areas has better uses, or is for some reason limited. A family may use a single or some small number of plots many times...They don't plan for bodies being put there and never being disturbed, so they use caskets that will disintegrate as the bodies do. What usually happens is that any bones found when grave is opened is put in an ossuarium with all the other reminants of others bodies. If deaths are not too close together, this works well. Buring a bunch is a grave without any removing remains is not usually possible...unless all prior decay to nothing! At St. Adelbert's, their term graves are 25 years, so I don't know where my ggparents final resting place is since in that family. they all bought term graves... Anettka **************Get a jump start on your taxes. Find a tax professional in your neighborhood today. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=Tax+Return+Preparation+%26+Filing&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000004) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I researched liquor licenses for my Chwarszczynski and Rutkowski families at IRAD a couple of years ago. I'm at work now and my records are at home, but ChicagoGenealogy is right on about the information they contain. As I recall, the films run from either the late 1890s or early 1900s through around 1919. All years are not available in between. You look the records up by street name and then numeric address. The licenses were issued in 6 month increments beginning on May 1st and October 1st. When a license/business changed hands or locations, that is also indicated. I tracked the saloons of my great grandfather (Valentine Chwarszczynski) in 1913 and two great uncles, one from 1907 to 1914 (Walter Rutkowski) and the other from 1912 to 1919 (Frank Rutkowski), which included location/address changes. Ruth --- On Thu, 2/26/09, charles tintera <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> wrote: From: charles tintera <CTINTERA@cfl.rr.com> Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Saloons in Cook County To: IL-COOK-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 5:29 PM My Grandfather, father's side, owned or ran a saloon on the east side of Cicero before prohibition. I have the address and Google Maps, Street-view, shows the building still there though derelict. Are there any records pertaining to saloons? Liquor licenses? Tax records? Could they be a source of information? TIA cvt Charles "Chuck" Tintera ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message