This is great Robert! I knew my grandparents took a boat up there and most likely it was this one in the story. The reason that I always heard (at least for my gps) was that my grandmother's parents did not want her to marry my grandfather, as he was 'only' a painter and that was 'beneath' her. They eventually came around though and the family got on quite well. Thank you for posting - it is saved in my family file. Beth --- On Fri, 5/1/09, ROBERT SCHILLER <rfs44@email.com> wrote: > From: ROBERT SCHILLER <rfs44@email.com> > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Chicago couples married in Milwaukee 1894 > To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 6:08 PM > Here is the entire article from The Chicago Tribune, minus > the list of couples which I've already posted. Glad this > has generated interest! > > WED IN MILWAUKEE. > > HUNDREDS FROM CHICAGO GO THERE TO TAKE MARRIAGE VOWS. > > Two Dollars Necessary for a License Here Pays for a Wedding > Trip on a Whaleback. – Preachers and Justices Complain > About Parsimonious Grooms – Stirred Up by Register of > Deeds for Not Recording Certificates – List of Chicago > Couples United Since May. > > MILWAUKEE, Wis., Sept. 1. – [Special Correspondence.] – > > > The Whaleback is responsible for these cheap marriages. It > costs $2 for a license in Chicago, while no licenses are > required here. The $2 will pay for a wedding trip on the > Whaleback. The Chicago young man who wants to get married > can do so by coming to Milwaukee. The expenses are: > > Round trip for two on steamer...$2.00 > Splicing by Milwaukee Justice....2.00 > Street car fare and incidentals..1.00 > _______________ > Total...................$5.00 > > This is cheap and besides the young man has not to go to > the expense of giving a reception and entertaining his > friends at a big celebration. > > > --

Thanks! On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Maryellen T <deeprootsaz@gmail.com> wrote: > The description on this website is very good. You can find it on the 1880 > ward map at alookatcook.com or you can find Dekoven st on mapquest. > Then go to alookatcook.com > By the address, it sounds like it may be near the start of the fire in > 1871. > The fire academy used to be on that spot when I lived in Chicago. Might be > still there. > Maryellen > > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:02 AM, <sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net> wrote: > > > If you Google < The Sands, Chicago > you will find LOTS of info. > > > > This is just one that came up > > > > http://everything2.com/title/The%2520Chicago%2520Prostitute%2520War% > > 2520of%25201857 > > > > Sharon > > > > > > > > On 30 Apr 2009 at 10:53, kathryn tdstelme.net wrote: > > > > Can anyone tell me what ward The Sands area of Chicago would have been > > in > > the 1900 census? > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many couples married in locations other than Chicago for a whole range of reasons. If you don't find the marriages you're looking for in Cook County, you should try these popular spots: Lake County, IN Porter County, IN Berrien County, MI Van Buren County, MI Kenosha County, WI Milwaukee County, WI Racine County, WI I wrote an article about "Gretna Greens" for the Newberry Library Weblog some time ago. You might find it interesting. http://www.newberry.org/genealogy/news/default.asp?postid=490 Ginger

The description on this website is very good. You can find it on the 1880 ward map at alookatcook.com or you can find Dekoven st on mapquest. Then go to alookatcook.com By the address, it sounds like it may be near the start of the fire in 1871. The fire academy used to be on that spot when I lived in Chicago. Might be still there. Maryellen On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:02 AM, <sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net> wrote: > If you Google < The Sands, Chicago > you will find LOTS of info. > > This is just one that came up > > http://everything2.com/title/The%2520Chicago%2520Prostitute%2520War% > 2520of%25201857 > > Sharon > > > > On 30 Apr 2009 at 10:53, kathryn tdstelme.net wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what ward The Sands area of Chicago would have been > in > the 1900 census? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'd love to see the article too, as the name I am researching married in Milwaukee in 1890 but lived in Chicago. The name was also mispelled! regards, Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Walsh" <bw.walsh5@sbcglobal.net> To: <il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com>; <dalenkatie@earthlink.net> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 4:07 AM Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Chicago couples married in Milwaukee 1894 > > I'd be interested in this, as my grandparents also got married in > Milwaukee. They eloped - took an excursion boat up there from Chicago. > This was in 1895. And yes, my grandfather's last name was also mis-spelled > in the register book! > > Beth > > > --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Dale & Katie <dalenkatie@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> From: Dale & Katie <dalenkatie@earthlink.net> >> Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Chicago couples married in Milwaukee 1894 >> To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com >> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 5:05 AM >> Robert Schiller, >> >> Thanks so much for sharing this article. Could you please >> share the article >> itself with the List? >> >> I wonder if this only applies to Milwaukee or it was trendy >> to marry in >> Wisconsin? My gr-grandparents were married in Waukegan >> (Lake County) in >> 1891 and I always assumed that there was something more >> logical to it--to >> save a few $ makes sense to me. By the way, the clerk >> misspelled by >> gr-grandmother's name too! >> >> Katie >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wow! Thanks! I think I will pursue these people. No, I don't hve any more info than what I gave you which makes it tough! All I have is Thomas and Mar's name on a Baptisml cert as sponsors of (I am assuming) his cousin James Roach's son. Not a lot to go on. Appreciate your help. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:10 PM, <sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net> wrote: > There are only two Thomas Roach /wife Mary in Chicago in the 1900 > Census. One in Hyde Park and one in West Town. Neither would be The > Sands area. There is one Thomas /wife Maria at South Town. That might > be the closest, but am not sure. > > In the listing, both of the Thomas Roach's also had sons named Thomas > and even one a grandson, so several appear associated with Thomas / > Mary. > > Going back to 1880, there is > > Roach, Thomas, 41, b. Ireland > , Mary, 40, b. Ireland > , Thomas, 15, b. [son of Thos] > > Living a 163 DeKoven St. > > This address IS in the Sands area, I am sure. Interesting is that next > door, > at 167 DeKoven is > > Roach, Morris, 45, b. Ireland > , Bridget, 42, b. Ireland > , Bridget, 12, b. IL > , Mary, 17, b. IL > > Could be related or could not be. Just living too close to not take > notice. > > Taking the info from 1880 [age, place of birth, etc.] it would appear that > this > might be the correct Thomas Roach > > 1900 United States Federal Census > about Thomas Roach > Name: Thomas Roach > Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 19, Cook, Illinois > Age: 65 > Birth Date: Mar 1835 > Birthplace: Ireland > Race: White > Ethnicity: American > Gender: Male > Immigration Year: 1865 > Relationship to head-of-house: Head > Father's Birthplace: Ireland > Mother's Birthplace: Ireland > Spouse's name: Mary > Marriage Year: 1865 > Marital Status: Married > Years Married: 35 > Residence : Chicago City, Cook, Illinois > Occupation: View on Image > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Thomas Roach 65 > Mary Roach 70 > Thomas Roach 32 > Ellen Roach 22 > Thomas Roach 2 > Frank Roach 0 > Kate Donnegan 50 [32 yr old Thomas' mother in law] > xxxxxxxx > > Do you have dates of birth, names of child [or children] that could help to > verify? > > Sharon > > > > > > > > > On 30 Apr 2009 at 11:45, kathryn tdstelme.net wrote: > > Thanks. Thomas J. Roach and wife Mary. I have ancestry, but there are so > many that might be he that I wanted to narrow my search to the one ward. > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:42 AM, <sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net> wrote: > > > If you give me the names you are looking for, I will see what I can find. > > > > Sharon > > > > > > On 30 Apr 2009 at 11:11, kathryn tdstelme.net wrote: > > > > Thanks. Great article! Couldn't find anything there to identify what > ward > > it would be. Roach relatives lived there. Trying to figure out which > ones > > they were on the census. Ward # would help a lot. > > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:02 AM, <sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net> wrote: > > > > > If you Google < The Sands, Chicago > you will find LOTS of info. > > > > > > This is just one that came up > > > > > > http://everything2.com/title/The%2520Chicago%2520Prostitute%2520War% > > > 2520of%25201857 > > > > > > Sharon > > > > > > > > > > > > On 30 Apr 2009 at 10:53, kathryn tdstelme.net wrote: > > > > > > Can anyone tell me what ward The Sands area of Chicago would have been > > > in > > > the 1900 census? > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO- > > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There are only two Thomas Roach /wife Mary in Chicago in the 1900 Census. One in Hyde Park and one in West Town. Neither would be The Sands area. There is one Thomas /wife Maria at South Town. That might be the closest, but am not sure. In the listing, both of the Thomas Roach's also had sons named Thomas and even one a grandson, so several appear associated with Thomas / Mary. Going back to 1880, there is Roach, Thomas, 41, b. Ireland , Mary, 40, b. Ireland , Thomas, 15, b. [son of Thos] Living a 163 DeKoven St. This address IS in the Sands area, I am sure. Interesting is that next door, at 167 DeKoven is Roach, Morris, 45, b. Ireland , Bridget, 42, b. Ireland , Bridget, 12, b. IL , Mary, 17, b. IL Could be related or could not be. Just living too close to not take notice. Taking the info from 1880 [age, place of birth, etc.] it would appear that this might be the correct Thomas Roach 1900 United States Federal Census about Thomas Roach Name: Thomas Roach Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 19, Cook, Illinois Age: 65 Birth Date: Mar 1835 Birthplace: Ireland Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1865 Relationship to head-of-house: Head Father's Birthplace: Ireland Mother's Birthplace: Ireland Spouse's name: Mary Marriage Year: 1865 Marital Status: Married Years Married: 35 Residence : Chicago City, Cook, Illinois Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Roach 65 Mary Roach 70 Thomas Roach 32 Ellen Roach 22 Thomas Roach 2 Frank Roach 0 Kate Donnegan 50 [32 yr old Thomas' mother in law] xxxxxxxx Do you have dates of birth, names of child [or children] that could help to verify? Sharon On 30 Apr 2009 at 11:45, kathryn tdstelme.net wrote: Thanks. Thomas J. Roach and wife Mary. I have ancestry, but there are so many that might be he that I wanted to narrow my search to the one ward. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:42 AM, <sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net> wrote: > If you give me the names you are looking for, I will see what I can find. > > Sharon > > > On 30 Apr 2009 at 11:11, kathryn tdstelme.net wrote: > > Thanks. Great article! Couldn't find anything there to identify what ward > it would be. Roach relatives lived there. Trying to figure out which ones > they were on the census. Ward # would help a lot. > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:02 AM, <sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net> wrote: > > > If you Google < The Sands, Chicago > you will find LOTS of info. > > > > This is just one that came up > > > > http://everything2.com/title/The%2520Chicago%2520Prostitute%2520War% > > 2520of%25201857 > > > > Sharon > > > > > > > > On 30 Apr 2009 at 10:53, kathryn tdstelme.net wrote: > > > > Can anyone tell me what ward The Sands area of Chicago would have been > > in > > the 1900 census? > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My library here in Arizona doesn't have access to ProQuest so I'm looking for some help. It appears there are a series of articles on ProQuest regarding a scandal impacting Chicago Alderman James Walsh of Chicago in the late 1890's. Would appreciate a lookup on them. Thanks, Mickey

Thanks. Thomas J. Roach and wife Mary. I have ancestry, but there are so many that might be he that I wanted to narrow my search to the one ward. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:42 AM, <sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net> wrote: > If you give me the names you are looking for, I will see what I can find. > > Sharon > > > On 30 Apr 2009 at 11:11, kathryn tdstelme.net wrote: > > Thanks. Great article! Couldn't find anything there to identify what ward > it would be. Roach relatives lived there. Trying to figure out which ones > they were on the census. Ward # would help a lot. > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:02 AM, <sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net> wrote: > > > If you Google < The Sands, Chicago > you will find LOTS of info. > > > > This is just one that came up > > > > http://everything2.com/title/The%2520Chicago%2520Prostitute%2520War% > > 2520of%25201857 > > > > Sharon > > > > > > > > On 30 Apr 2009 at 10:53, kathryn tdstelme.net wrote: > > > > Can anyone tell me what ward The Sands area of Chicago would have been > > in > > the 1900 census? > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks. Great article! Couldn't find anything there to identify what ward it would be. Roach relatives lived there. Trying to figure out which ones they were on the census. Ward # would help a lot. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:02 AM, <sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net> wrote: > If you Google < The Sands, Chicago > you will find LOTS of info. > > This is just one that came up > > http://everything2.com/title/The%2520Chicago%2520Prostitute%2520War% > 2520of%25201857 > > Sharon > > > > On 30 Apr 2009 at 10:53, kathryn tdstelme.net wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what ward The Sands area of Chicago would have been > in > the 1900 census? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can anyone tell me what ward The Sands area of Chicago would have been in the 1900 census?

If you give me the names you are looking for, I will see what I can find. Sharon On 30 Apr 2009 at 11:11, kathryn tdstelme.net wrote: Thanks. Great article! Couldn't find anything there to identify what ward it would be. Roach relatives lived there. Trying to figure out which ones they were on the census. Ward # would help a lot. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:02 AM, <sjlbuethner-sheminee@att.net> wrote: > If you Google < The Sands, Chicago > you will find LOTS of info. > > This is just one that came up > > http://everything2.com/title/The%2520Chicago%2520Prostitute%2520War% > 2520of%25201857 > > Sharon > > > > On 30 Apr 2009 at 10:53, kathryn tdstelme.net wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what ward The Sands area of Chicago would have been > in > the 1900 census? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you Google < The Sands, Chicago > you will find LOTS of info. This is just one that came up http://everything2.com/title/The%2520Chicago%2520Prostitute%2520War% 2520of%25201857 Sharon On 30 Apr 2009 at 10:53, kathryn tdstelme.net wrote: Can anyone tell me what ward The Sands area of Chicago would have been in the 1900 census? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'd be interested in this, as my grandparents also got married in Milwaukee. They eloped - took an excursion boat up there from Chicago. This was in 1895. And yes, my grandfather's last name was also mis-spelled in the register book! Beth --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Dale & Katie <dalenkatie@earthlink.net> wrote: > From: Dale & Katie <dalenkatie@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] Chicago couples married in Milwaukee 1894 > To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 5:05 AM > Robert Schiller, > > Thanks so much for sharing this article. Could you please > share the article > itself with the List? > > I wonder if this only applies to Milwaukee or it was trendy > to marry in > Wisconsin? My gr-grandparents were married in Waukegan > (Lake County) in > 1891 and I always assumed that there was something more > logical to it--to > save a few $ makes sense to me. By the way, the clerk > misspelled by > gr-grandmother's name too! > > Katie > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Robert Schiller, Thanks so much for sharing this article. Could you please share the article itself with the List? I wonder if this only applies to Milwaukee or it was trendy to marry in Wisconsin? My gr-grandparents were married in Waukegan (Lake County) in 1891 and I always assumed that there was something more logical to it--to save a few $ makes sense to me. By the way, the clerk misspelled by gr-grandmother's name too! Katie

George, Don't despair...some of my "last straws" actually turned into real bales of hay. It can happen. And its not a waste of time even if it doesn't pan out this time...because you learn so much along the way... very helpful for other searches. It makes you a better researcher. I can't tell you how many times I found relatives totally by accident or just dumb luck. Happy hunting! Sallie Hawaii **************Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631276x1201390200/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.double click.net%2Fclk%3B214101948%3B35952020%3Bv)

Hi Sallie,I do not know if Mary Jane Davidson is my William Morley's wife.I am just grasping at straws.The minister on the license is David Harries and from what I found he was from the Welsh Methodist Church.I am going to write them a letter and hope they respond. Perhaps my man's marriage was not reported. George. __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.

Hi George, great to hear that Mary Jane Davidson was the right gal. From my experience, the church records have given me much more info than the records at the county clerks office. Parents not usually listed on the marriage certificate. I would put my efforts there. Do the marriage records show the name of the priest or the church on it? Regards, Sallie Wald Hawaii **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621499x1201450105/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Apr ilExcScore428NO62)

Nearly all of my experience is with Polish parishes...St. Stanislaus Kostka, St. Aloysius, and St. Hedwig seem to stand out.   They all vary a bit in format and content, i.e., St. Stan's is the only one I've seen that indicates the addresses of the bride and groom.  Sometimes it seemed to depend upon which priest was making the entry.  Some were very diligent and precise in detail, while it was apparent others just wanted to get it over with...with those, you are lucky to get the names and date.   The worst were those who didn't even bother to record the marriage entry.  I have two of those.  One for a cousin on my Mom's side; the church was St. Boniface (1910).  The other was for my paternal grandparents; the church was St. Nicholas Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral (1916).  I petitioned St. Nicholas and the Archdiocese of Chicago Archive Department (St. Boniface's recorded are stored there), providing copies of the County marriage licenses as proof, with a notarized certification on the back indicating the source and verifying that it was a true and correct copy.  Both incorporated the information into their records as an addendum.   Ruth --- On Tue, 4/28/09, patricia meyers <pattimeyers67@att.net> wrote: From: patricia meyers <pattimeyers67@att.net> Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] William Morley To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:29 AM Hi, Ruth, What church are you referring to?  I haven't had that luck with my family.  I have seen records for a time frame where the priest mentioned the county in Ireland where the family originated...very helpful, but for the most part, I've only seen the names of witnesses.  No parents but that could be because the parents were deceased. Patti ________________________________ From: Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com> To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:12:20 AM Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] William Morley I'm not sure about all church records, but I know the Roman Catholic church marriage records for my family during that timeframe are a wealth of information.  Parents are almost always listed, as well as the age and residence of the bride and groom and, often, where they were born...particularly helpful if not in the U.S.  Witnesses are also listed, which sometimes connects you to additional family members.  Again, this is what is contained in the Roman Catholic church marriage records in that timeframe.   Ruth --- On Tue, 4/28/09, GEORGE MORLEY <gemor01@yahoo.ca> wrote: From: GEORGE MORLEY <gemor01@yahoo.ca> Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] William Morley To: IL-COOK-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 6:43 AM I received a copy of the marriage license for William Morley and Mary Jane Davidson in 1887 from IRAD.Is there anything that would contain information as to Williams parents names or should I go to the county clerks office?Would the church record have more information? Thanks,George in Canada.       __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Ruth, What church are you referring to?  I haven't had that luck with my family.  I have seen records for a time frame where the priest mentioned the county in Ireland where the family originated...very helpful, but for the most part, I've only seen the names of witnesses.  No parents but that could be because the parents were deceased. Patti ________________________________ From: Ruth Susmarski <rususmar@yahoo.com> To: il-cook-chicago@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:12:20 AM Subject: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] William Morley I'm not sure about all church records, but I know the Roman Catholic church marriage records for my family during that timeframe are a wealth of information.  Parents are almost always listed, as well as the age and residence of the bride and groom and, often, where they were born...particularly helpful if not in the U.S.  Witnesses are also listed, which sometimes connects you to additional family members.  Again, this is what is contained in the Roman Catholic church marriage records in that timeframe.   Ruth --- On Tue, 4/28/09, GEORGE MORLEY <gemor01@yahoo.ca> wrote: From: GEORGE MORLEY <gemor01@yahoo.ca> Subject: Re: [IL-COOK-CHICAGO] William Morley To: IL-COOK-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 6:43 AM I received a copy of the marriage license for William Morley and Mary Jane Davidson in 1887 from IRAD.Is there anything that would contain information as to Williams parents names or should I go to the county clerks office?Would the church record have more information? Thanks,George in Canada.       __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-COOK-CHICAGO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message