Can you help? I'm searching for parents of Robert KING b: 1920's IL, prob Chicago. Don't have much to go on yet. Robert's mother was Sarah Jacobson who married Benjamin (surname spelling unsure) Koenigsberg??? Lived in IL at time of son, Robert's birth in the 1920's. Both parents may have come from Russia--and were Jewish. Ben and Sarah owned a hardware store in Chicago. (Also, Is there a way to obtain information about this store?) Son, Robert went by surname "King" as an adult, don't know at time of childhood. Ben died in 1940's in Chicago and Sarah moved to CA after that. Thank you very much for any help. Sarah

Dear Cynthia, Thank you for this info. I can get to the Polish web-site by going to the following and then linking as necessary from there: http://www.pgsa.org/ Thanks again, Dave Witthans ----- Original Message ----- From: Cynthia Piech To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 12:14 PM Subject: [IL-CHICAGO] PGSA Saturday August 20 PGSA Saturday - August 20 Saturday, August 20, 2005 is Genealogy Saturday at the library of the Polish Museum of America, Chicago. The Polish Genealogy Society of America (PGSA) will have experienced genealogists available at the library from 10 am to 1 pm for consultation. This is open to everyone. The library and museum are in the Polish Roman Catholic Union of America at 984 Milwaukee Ave. in Chicago, just west of the Kennedy Expressway. There is plenty of free parking. For more information and directions go to: http://www.pgsa.org/GenSaturday.htm. There will be no PGSA Genealogy Saturday in September because of the PGSA annual conference in Schaumburg. Conference flyer: http://www.pgsa.org/PGSA_2005%20Conf_8x11.pd. If you have questions, please send them to [email protected] Dzie~kuje! Thank you! Cynthia PGSA

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PGSA Saturday – August 20 Saturday, August 20, 2005 is Genealogy Saturday at the library of the Polish Museum of America, Chicago. The Polish Genealogy Society of America (PGSA) will have experienced genealogists available at the library from 10 am to 1 pm for consultation. This is open to everyone. The library and museum are in the Polish Roman Catholic Union of America at 984 Milwaukee Ave. in Chicago, just west of the Kennedy Expressway. There is plenty of free parking. For more information and directions go to: http://www.pgsa.org/GenSaturday.htm. There will be no PGSA Genealogy Saturday in September because of the PGSA annual conference in Schaumburg. Conference flyer: http://www.pgsa.org/PGSA_2005%20Conf_8x11.pd. If you have questions, please send them to [email protected] Dzie~kuje! Thank you! Cynthia PGSA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Thank you for the link re Melungeons. -Brenda

just go to google and enter in melungeon or melungeon +lincoln or melungeon +rootsweb and you will have plenty to explore..... plenty On 8/2/05, cgaetz <[email protected]> wrote: > May I have the link for the above info? > Sounds really intriguing. > -Brenda > > > ==== IL-COOK-CHICAGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from Digest: Send a message to > [email protected] > that contains (in the body of the message) the command unsubscribe > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

May I have the link for the above info? Sounds really intriguing. -Brenda

Dear Brenda, An excellent article on Abe Lincoln as being a possible Melungeon is included below in Elaine's e-mail where she points to a Melungeon web-site. I'm sure that Valentine's suggestion of using Google will offer many views on the Melungeons. Dave Witthans ==================== ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Witthans To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [IL-CHICAGO] Abe Lincoln - was he a Melungeon? Thank you Elaine and Valentine (and you too, Darlene). Fascinating information. After learning about the Melungeons, I don't feel badly about my predicament. My cousins are somewhat confused about whether we might be German or Polish, maybe even Jewish. But somehow, with all four grandparents being Lutheran, German ancestry seems natural. So now I will say to them that we are Prussian, since that is all we can prove, because Prussia encompassed both countries. Now, can someone please point me to the Prussian government for confirmation? LOL Thanks again, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Allen & Darlene Dowhaniuk To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [IL-CHICAGO] Abe Lincoln - was he a Melungeon? That was a very interesting link......thank you. I also checked out, a few of many Melungeon links on the net. I am one of those people who said "what is a melungeon?" Kind regards Darlene BC Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "ETM" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [IL-CHICAGO] Abe Lincoln - was he a Melungeon? > It hasn't gone unnoticed by the research > group. > > http://melungeons.com/articles/mar2005.htm > > Elaine > > Education is the jewel casting brilliance > into the future. --Mari Evans > > Hello .... > > On Monday, August 1, 2005, you wrote > > > in i think 2003 > > there was an extensive conversation about this on ROOTS > > you might want to scout it there to see what was said... > > > On 8/1/05, Dave Witthans > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Is there the belief in Illinois that Abe > >> Lincoln was a Melungeon? > >> > >> Melungeon is supposed to have mixed > >> ancestors from some of these peoples: > >> > >> Portuguese, Jewish, African, Arabic, Turkish, etc... > >> > >> Melungeons were supposed to be here before the British arrived. > >> > >> There was a new show on The History channel > >> Sunday night, called "Weird". > >> > >> The hosts said that some people think that > >> Lincoln, Ava Gardner and Elvis Presley were > >> Melungeon. > >> > >> Do any of you trace Melungeon in Genealogy? > >> > >> Or what might be your thoughts? > >> > >> Thanks, Dave Witthans > >> > >> P.S. The series "Weird" is supposed to > >> start Monday night, tonight, on the History > >> channel. > >> (I am not connected to either enterprise...) ==================== ----- Original Message ----- From: cgaetz To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:38 AM Subject: [IL-CHICAGO] Melungeon? May I have the link for the above info? Sounds really intriguing. -Brenda

Thank you Elaine and Valentine (and you too, Darlene). Fascinating information. After learning about the Melungeons, I don't feel badly about my predicament. My cousins are somewhat confused about whether we might be German or Polish, maybe even Jewish. But somehow, with all four grandparents being Lutheran, German ancestry seems natural. So now I will say to them that we are Prussian, since that is all we can prove, because Prussia encompassed both countries. Now, can someone please point me to the Prussian government for confirmation? LOL Thanks again, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Allen & Darlene Dowhaniuk To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [IL-CHICAGO] Abe Lincoln - was he a Melungeon? That was a very interesting link......thank you. I also checked out, a few of many Melungeon links on the net. I am one of those people who said "what is a melungeon?" Kind regards Darlene BC Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "ETM" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [IL-CHICAGO] Abe Lincoln - was he a Melungeon? > It hasn't gone unnoticed by the research > group. > > http://melungeons.com/articles/mar2005.htm > > Elaine > > Education is the jewel casting brilliance > into the future. --Mari Evans > > Hello .... > > On Monday, August 1, 2005, you wrote > > > in i think 2003 > > there was an extensive conversation about this on ROOTS > > you might want to scout it there to see what was said... > > > On 8/1/05, Dave Witthans > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Is there the belief in Illinois that Abe > >> Lincoln was a Melungeon? > >> > >> Melungeon is supposed to have mixed > >> ancestors from some of these peoples: > >> > >> Portuguese, Jewish, African, Arabic, Turkish, etc... > >> > >> Melungeons were supposed to be here before the British arrived. > >> > >> There was a new show on The History channel > >> Sunday night, called "Weird". > >> > >> The hosts said that some people think that > >> Lincoln, Ava Gardner and Elvis Presley were > >> Melungeon. > >> > >> Do any of you trace Melungeon in Genealogy? > >> > >> Or what might be your thoughts? > >> > >> Thanks, Dave Witthans > >> > >> P.S. The series "Weird" is supposed to > >> start Monday night, tonight, on the History > >> channel. > >> (I am not connected to either enterprise...)

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It hasn't gone unnoticed by the research group. http://melungeons.com/articles/mar2005.htm Elaine Education is the jewel casting brilliance into the future. --Mari Evans Hello .... On Monday, August 1, 2005, you wrote > in i think 2003 > there was an extensive conversation about this on ROOTS > you might want to scout it there to see what was said... > On 8/1/05, Dave Witthans > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Is there the belief in Illinois that Abe >> Lincoln was a Melungeon? >> >> Melungeon is supposed to have mixed >> ancestors from some of these peoples: >> >> Portuguese, Jewish, African, Arabic, Turkish, etc... >> >> Melungeons were supposed to be here before the British arrived. >> >> There was a new show on The History channel >> Sunday night, called "Weird". >> >> The hosts said that some people think that >> Lincoln, Ava Gardner and Elvis Presley were >> Melungeon. >> >> Do any of you trace Melungeon in Genealogy? >> >> Or what might be your thoughts? >> >> Thanks, Dave Witthans >> >> P.S. The series "Weird" is supposed to >> start Monday night, tonight, on the History >> channel. >> (I am not connected to either enterprise...) >> >

in i think 2003 there was an extensive conversation about this on ROOTS you might want to scout it there to see what was said... On 8/1/05, Dave Witthans <[email protected]> wrote: > > Is there the belief in Illinois that Abe Lincoln was a Melungeon? > > Melungeon is supposed to have mixed ancestors from some of these peoples: > > Portuguese, Jewish, African, Arabic, Turkish, etc... > > Melungeons were supposed to be here before the British arrived. > > There was a new show on The History channel Sunday night, called "Weird". > > The hosts said that some people think that Lincoln, Ava Gardner and Elvis Presley were Melungeon. > > Do any of you trace Melungeon in Genealogy? > > Or what might be your thoughts? > > Thanks, Dave Witthans > > P.S. The series "Weird" is supposed to start Monday night, tonight, on the History channel. > (I am not connected to either enterprise...) > > > ==== IL-COOK-CHICAGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: Send a message to > [email protected] > that contains (in the body of the message) the command unsubscribe > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

That was a very interesting link......thank you. I also checked out, a few of many Melungeon links on the net. I am one of those people who said "what is a melungeon?" Kind regards Darlene BC Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "ETM" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [IL-CHICAGO] Abe Lincoln - was he a Melungeon? > It hasn't gone unnoticed by the research > group. > > http://melungeons.com/articles/mar2005.htm > > Elaine > > Education is the jewel casting brilliance > into the future. --Mari Evans > > Hello .... > > On Monday, August 1, 2005, you wrote > > > in i think 2003 > > there was an extensive conversation about this on ROOTS > > you might want to scout it there to see what was said... > > > On 8/1/05, Dave Witthans > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Is there the belief in Illinois that Abe > >> Lincoln was a Melungeon? > >> > >> Melungeon is supposed to have mixed > >> ancestors from some of these peoples: > >> > >> Portuguese, Jewish, African, Arabic, Turkish, etc... > >> > >> Melungeons were supposed to be here before the British arrived. > >> > >> There was a new show on The History channel > >> Sunday night, called "Weird". > >> > >> The hosts said that some people think that > >> Lincoln, Ava Gardner and Elvis Presley were > >> Melungeon. > >> > >> Do any of you trace Melungeon in Genealogy? > >> > >> Or what might be your thoughts? > >> > >> Thanks, Dave Witthans > >> > >> P.S. The series "Weird" is supposed to > >> start Monday night, tonight, on the History > >> channel. > >> (I am not connected to either enterprise...) > >> > > > > > ==== IL-COOK-CHICAGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from Digest: Send a message to > [email protected] > that contains (in the body of the message) the command unsubscribe > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Theresa, Thank You very much, but I now have them. Ginger > [Original Message] > From: Theresa Bora <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 8/1/2005 7:34:47 PM > Subject: Re: [IL-CHICAGO] McGarry Obit > > Hi Ginger. There are also two articles that mention your Owen McGarry. I can email them to you off List as attachments, along with the original obits, if you would like them. Terry in Michigan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ginger<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 4:46 PM > Subject: [IL-CHICAGO] McGarry Obit > > > Hello Listers, > I am new to Chicago research. Can an SKS, please lookup a Chicago obit for > Feb 1970 for Owen McGarry age 73. > and if possible his wife Brigid McGarry who died in July 1973 she was 73 also. > Thank you in advance, > Ginger in PA > > > > ==== IL-COOK-CHICAGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from Digest: Send a message to > [email protected] > that contains (in the body of the message) the command unsubscribe > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hi Ginger. There are also two articles that mention your Owen McGarry. I can email them to you off List as attachments, along with the original obits, if you would like them. Terry in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: Ginger<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 4:46 PM Subject: [IL-CHICAGO] McGarry Obit Hello Listers, I am new to Chicago research. Can an SKS, please lookup a Chicago obit for Feb 1970 for Owen McGarry age 73. and if possible his wife Brigid McGarry who died in July 1973 she was 73 also. Thank you in advance, Ginger in PA

Thank You, Darlene! > [Original Message] > From: Allen & Darlene Dowhaniuk <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 8/1/2005 5:23:37 PM > Subject: Re: [IL-CHICAGO] McGarry Obit > > Hi Ginger, > > If you go to this site and key in their names under death notices they are > both there. > http://infoweb.newsbank.com/iw-search/we/HistArchive?p_product=CTHA&p_action =keyword&p_theme=ctha&p_nbid=L54D56TQMTA4MzU0NTMxNi44MjkxOTM6MTo4OnJhLTEzNDk 4&p_clear_search=&s_search_type=keyword&s_category=none&d_refprod=CTHA > > Kind regards > Darlene > BC Canada > > > > > > > > >

Valintine I did click on this ...but get NewsBank ... Error Message java.lang.NullPointerException Ginger > > > Record Number: 19700212dn072 > > or which you can do yourself by clicking on > http://infoweb.newsbank.com/iw-search/we/HistArchive/?p_action=keyword&p_the me=ctha&p_nbid=R46D4DVEMTA4MzU0NTMxNi44MjkxOTM6MTo4OnJhLTEzNDk4&p_product=CT HA<http://infoweb.newsbank.com/iw-search/we/HistArchive/?p_action=keyword&p_ theme=ctha&p_nbid=R46D4DVEMTA4MzU0NTMxNi44MjkxOTM6MTo4OnJhLTEzNDk4&p_product =CTHA> > > make a note of it... people are always asking for this link .... > > I have NOT checked on the NEWS ARCHIVE section on the right side but you could > and if there is an IMAGE, select image and then copy/paste the portion you want and you will have the obit.. > further there might be a story with the orbit depending on his populatiry or ocupation or other... > > > ==== IL-COOK-CHICAGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from Digest: Send a message to > [email protected] > that contains (in the body of the message) the command unsubscribe > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Valentine, Thank you so very much!!!! This is GREAT!!!!! Ginger in PA

not only is it long it duplicated so here it is singly... http://infoweb.newsbank.com/iw-search/we/HistArchive?p_product=CTHA&p_action=keyword&p_theme=ctha&p_nbid=L54D56TQMTA4MzU0NTMxNi44MjkxOTM6MTo4OnJhLTEzNDk4&p_clear_search=&s_search_type=keyword&s_category=none&d_refprod=CTHA likely someone will give a tiny url but i will not... someday someone will click on a tinyurl and end up in a less than favorable place... or a less than favorable bug in their machine! On 8/1/05, Ginger <[email protected]> wrote: > > Valintine > > I did click on this ...but get NewsBank ... Error Message > java.lang.NullPointerException > Ginger > > > > > > > Record Number: 19700212dn072 > > > > or which you can do yourself by clicking on > > > http://infoweb.newsbank.com/iw-search/we/HistArchive/?p_action=keyword&p_the > me=ctha&p_nbid=R46D4DVEMTA4MzU0NTMxNi44MjkxOTM6MTo4OnJhLTEzNDk4&p_product=CT > HA<http://infoweb.newsbank.com/iw-search/we/HistArchive/?p_action=keyword&p_ > theme=ctha&p_nbid=R46D4DVEMTA4MzU0NTMxNi44MjkxOTM6MTo4OnJhLTEzNDk4&p_product > =CTHA> > > > > make a note of it... people are always asking for this link .... > > > > I have NOT checked on the NEWS ARCHIVE section on the right side but you > could > > and if there is an IMAGE, select image and then copy/paste the portion > you want and you will have the obit.. > > further there might be a story with the orbit depending on his populatiry > or ocupation or other... > > > > > > ==== IL-COOK-CHICAGO Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from Digest: Send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains (in the body of the message) the command unsubscribe > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > ==== IL-COOK-CHICAGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: Send a message to > [email protected] > that contains (in the body of the message) the command unsubscribe > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Hello Listers, I am new to Chicago research. Can an SKS, please lookup a Chicago obit for Feb 1970 for Owen McGarry age 73. and if possible his wife Brigid McGarry who died in July 1973 she was 73 also. Thank you in advance, Ginger in PA