Jack, thanks for the reply, The jacket comes to the hips. There may be a button under the belt buckle but the spaceing would be off if there was. Have any idea on the snowflake looking medal?? Elaine in Ohio -----Original Message----- From: Jack Cox <jack_cox@swbell.net> To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com <IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, May 11, 2001 12:59 AM Subject: Re: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] Illinois Cavalry >The hat sounds like either a Hardee or a slouch hat. The crossed swords designate cavalry. (Bugle is infantry, crossed >cannons is artillery, small castle is engineers) > >The trousers that look white may actually be sky blue - the standard color for union trousers. If the jacket is rather >short and tight fitting, it is probably a shell jacket - however 5 buttons would be unusual. Shell jackets for enlisted >men had 12 buttons and sack coats had 4. However, many soldiers wore what they had - government issue or not. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "edcrow@msn.com" <edcrow@email.msn.com> >To: <IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 9:50 PM >Subject: Re: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] Illinois Cavalry > > >> The picture I have of Solomon Peter Crow Co. D 14 th. Illinois Cavalry is >> black and white so I can't help with colors, but he is wearing a hat that is >> close to a stetson in looks but the brim dosen't look as wide as a stetson. >> There are crossed swords on it. The jacket has 5 shiny buttons and is kind >> of tight fitting. the colar is pointed like a mens shirt colar but a little >> more space between the points. The belt is almost a thumb width and has a >> large square shiny buckle. Light {white or off white?} pants ,full in the >> leg and tucked into boots that come just below the knees. There is a medal >> that kind of looks like a snowflake hanging from a ribbon with a bar of some >> kind on top. I don't have a scanner but will be glad to send you a zerox if >> you want to see it. Hope this helps. Elaine in Ohio >> edcrow@msn.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fossitt, Chris <ChrisF@communitypress.com> >> To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com <IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:34 PM >> Subject: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] Illinois Cavalry >> >> >> >To all; >> > >> >I'm researching my gggrandpa's Cavalry regiment for a painting I plan to >> do. >> >I'm hoping someone can answer some questions that I have.... >> > >> >Question #1: Can anyone tell me what the uniform for a private in Co. E, >> >17th Illinois Cavalry would look like? From several photos of various >> >Illinois Cavalry regts., I assume that it was a shell jacket with a high >> >collar and two buttons on each side. But in most of the photos I've seen, >> >there's no yellow trim on the collar and cuffs like you would expect on a >> >cavalry jacket. Could the trim be another color? Would the trim be >> absent? >> > >> >Question #2: Would a private have worn a kepi or a Hardee hat? Again, >> I've >> >seen several photos of soldier in Illinois Cavalry regts., and most seem to >> >have worn short Hardee style hats. Was that a dress hat, or would they >> wear >> >the Hardee hat into battle? >> > >> >Question #3: I have a hand-written note from Captain Charles Parker of the >> >9th US Cavalry (post-war), to my gggrandpa, Simeon Shaver, Co. E, 17th >> >Illinois Cavalry. It reads... >> > >> >Capt. 9th Cavalry >> >Fort Robinson Neb >> >Charles Parker >> > >> >Simeon Shaver >> >Private Co. E 17 Ill Cavly. >> > >> >"Most of the boys are calling upon me. Leo Grollmond came yesterday. >> Yours >> >today. Hope your attorney will get all the dates right. Poor Crotzenburg >> >died first." >> >C.P. >> >Capt. 9th Cavly. >> > >> >Does anyone have a guess as to what this note is discussing? Was veterans >> >legally required to go through lawyers to collect a pension? >> > >> > >> >Thanks! >> >Chris Fossitt >> > >> >> >