To all; I'm researching my gggrandpa's Cavalry regiment for a painting I plan to do. I'm hoping someone can answer some questions that I have.... Question #1: Can anyone tell me what the uniform for a private in Co. E, 17th Illinois Cavalry would look like? From several photos of various Illinois Cavalry regts., I assume that it was a shell jacket with a high collar and two buttons on each side. But in most of the photos I've seen, there's no yellow trim on the collar and cuffs like you would expect on a cavalry jacket. Could the trim be another color? Would the trim be absent? Question #2: Would a private have worn a kepi or a Hardee hat? Again, I've seen several photos of soldier in Illinois Cavalry regts., and most seem to have worn short Hardee style hats. Was that a dress hat, or would they wear the Hardee hat into battle? Question #3: I have a hand-written note from Captain Charles Parker of the 9th US Cavalry (post-war), to my gggrandpa, Simeon Shaver, Co. E, 17th Illinois Cavalry. It reads... Capt. 9th Cavalry Fort Robinson Neb Charles Parker Simeon Shaver Private Co. E 17 Ill Cavly. "Most of the boys are calling upon me. Leo Grollmond came yesterday. Yours today. Hope your attorney will get all the dates right. Poor Crotzenburg died first." C.P. Capt. 9th Cavly. Does anyone have a guess as to what this note is discussing? Was veterans legally required to go through lawyers to collect a pension? Thanks! Chris Fossitt

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If you haven't yet, you should request a pension file from the National Archives. If they don't have the pension record, you could ask for the service record. Go to nara.gov and see which form you need (I can't remember offhand). I THINK, but am not sure, that the pension records may also be on microfilm through the LDS (the Mormons) Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Callan" <kcallan738@earthlink.net> To: <IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 2:35 AM Subject: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] Need Assistance > I have an obituary for one brother that states that he and his brothers > enlisted in the Union Army. I have located one of them in Co C 99th Ill > Inf as a 2nd Lt (Wm L. Carter). > > In addition to the obituary, I have a bio I found online for one of the > other brothers who had attended St. Louis Medical College, graduated in > 1857, and then it states he joined the army as a surgeon in 1862. His > name is Charles L. Carter. I have been to numerous databases, but have > been unable to locate him in any of them. I have found a Charles L. > Carter that was a private but no surgeon. > > The brothers supposedly joined in Illinois after taking their mother > there from MO to keep her safe from the war. William enlisted in Pike > County, IL. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks. > > ______________________________

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Have you checked the Adjutant Generals report from Illinois? It is the best place to look to begin.

I have an obituary for one brother that states that he and his brothers enlisted in the Union Army. I have located one of them in Co C 99th Ill Inf as a 2nd Lt (Wm L. Carter). In addition to the obituary, I have a bio I found online for one of the other brothers who had attended St. Louis Medical College, graduated in 1857, and then it states he joined the army as a surgeon in 1862. His name is Charles L. Carter. I have been to numerous databases, but have been unable to locate him in any of them. I have found a Charles L. Carter that was a private but no surgeon. The brothers supposedly joined in Illinois after taking their mother there from MO to keep her safe from the war. William enlisted in Pike County, IL. Any suggestions? Thanks.

PEAR1236@cs.com wrote: Phyllis, The U.S. Army Historical Institute in Carlisle Barracks, PA has some 1st Illinois Cavalry photos, including Pvt. Charles Schlechs of Co. A, and the regiment's Lt. Col., Henry Day. You can access their search screen at http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/PhotoDB.html. Tom Pearson Thank you for your help. At this time I have not been able to access that site, but will keep trying. Phyllis ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

Tom Pearson..... Thanks aloads, do you know if there is any photo's of this 2nd Regiment Cavalry D. Thanks Denise Gibbs Kneifel

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Doug: Go to this site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilcivilw/reg_html/cav_013.htm There is a history of both the original unit and the consolidated unit. Both the adjutant general's report and Dyers' Compendium are available here. I think you should find all you need. The complete roster of the original company E is on line, as are all the rosters of the consolidated regiment. Jack Cox Researching 7th Il Infantry and 61st Il Infantry ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jurneywithme@aol.com> To: <IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 7:38 PM Subject: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] 13th Ill. calvary Company E > I have been looking for more info on 13th calvary, company E Illinois. > > The battles listed by the Adjutant General seems to only begin in the year > 1863, yet i know they were in battle elsewhere prior to this as they mustered > late in 1861. I have an ancestor that was discharged in 1862 due to illness > and was brought back to his home in Olney Illinois and died a few weeks > later. There are handed down stories as to where he saw action but at those > places, there is no record of them.. I have heard they split up the > different units and its possible he went one way while some of the other > companies went another, then rejoined.. Is it possible to get a more detailed > look at what this unit was involved in.. thank you > doug >

I have been looking for more info on 13th calvary, company E Illinois. The battles listed by the Adjutant General seems to only begin in the year 1863, yet i know they were in battle elsewhere prior to this as they mustered late in 1861. I have an ancestor that was discharged in 1862 due to illness and was brought back to his home in Olney Illinois and died a few weeks later. There are handed down stories as to where he saw action but at those places, there is no record of them.. I have heard they split up the different units and its possible he went one way while some of the other companies went another, then rejoined.. Is it possible to get a more detailed look at what this unit was involved in.. thank you doug

From Dyer's: Eight Companies organized at Camp Douglas, Ill., October 30, 1861, to February 20, 1862... SERVICE.-Duty in District of Southeast Missouri February to June, 1862. Joined General Curtis at Jacksonport, Ark., June 1. March to Helena, Ark., June 1-July 14. Grand Haze, White River, July 4. Hill's Plantation, Cache River, Round Hill, Bayou De View July 7. Gaines' Landing, Pittman's Ferry July 20. Cotton Plant July 25. Scout in Wayne, Stoddard and Dunklin Counties, Mo., August 20-27 (Detachment). Union Mills August 22. Four Miles August 23. Bloomfiled August 24. Camp Pillow August 29. Little River Bridge August 31 (Detachment). Bloomfield September 11. Davidson's Campaign in Southwest Missouri and Northwest Arkansas October, 1862 to May, 1863. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jurneywithme@aol.com> To: <IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 5:38 PM Subject: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] 13th Ill. calvary Company E > I have been looking for more info on 13th calvary, company E Illinois. > > The battles listed by the Adjutant General seems to only begin in the year > 1863, yet i know they were in battle elsewhere prior to this as they mustered > late in 1861. I have an ancestor that was discharged in 1862 due to illness > and was brought back to his home in Olney Illinois and died a few weeks > later. There are handed down stories as to where he saw action but at those > places, there is no record of them.. I have heard they split up the > different units and its possible he went one way while some of the other > companies went another, then rejoined.. Is it possible to get a more detailed > look at what this unit was involved in.. thank you > doug >

I am trying to locate an ancestor, James W. Kirtley, who was supposed to have been a Union soldier in Illinois. However, I've looked in all the available indexes, under all possible variations of his name, and I cannot find him. My grandmother told me the following story: James was a Confederate sympathizer who joined the Union army to spy on the Yankees. In December 1861, James's unit (I don't know what kind) was supposed to march through Cairo on Christmas day. His wife and daughter stood in the balcony of a hotel and watched the troops march by, but James did not appear. It turned out that he was dead, having swallowed poison upon discovery. Supposedly, he was buried on the grounds of the state mental hospital at Anna, Illinois. Now, I have serious doubts about this story. However, it does seem that if there's any kernel of truth in it, maybe the records of the military unit would reflect this incident. If nothing else, if I knew which units were in the Anna vicinity before Christmas 1861 and then marched through Cairo on Christmas day, I might be able to review the names of the soldiers. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance, Nina Scholtz

Denise, This is the history of the 2nd IL Cavalry: 2nd Regiment Cavalry Organized at Camp Butler, Ill., and mustered in August 12, 1861. (Co. "M" mustered in December 30, 1861.) Moved to Fort Massac August 29, 1861; to Cairo, Ill., October 3, 1861 (6 Cos.), and to Paducah, Ky., November 1, 1861 (5 Cos.). Attached to Military District of Cairo, Dept. of Missouri, to February, 1862. Unattached, Army of Mississippi, to April, 1862 (Cos. "G," "H," "I" and "K"). District of Columbus, Ky., to November, 1862 (Cos. "E," "F," "G," "H," "I," "K" and "M"). (Cos. "A" and "B," 1st Brigade, 1st Division, Army Tennessee, to March, 1862. 2nd Division, Army Tennessee, to July, 1862.) Cavalry, District of Jackson, Tenn., to November, 1862 (Cos. "A," "B," "C" and "D"). Cavalry, 4th Division, Right Wing 13th Army Corps (Old), Dept. of the Tennessee, to December, 1862. 2nd Brigade, Cavalry Division, 16th Army Corps, to March, 1863. Unattached, 13th Army Corps, Army Tennessee, to August, 1863 (Detachment). District of Columbus, Ky., 6th Division, 16th Corps, to May, 1863 (Detachment). 4th Brigade, District of Memphis, Tenn., 5th Division, 16th Army Corps, to August, 1863 (Detachment). Cavalry Brigade, 13th Army Corps, Dept. of the Gulf, to September, 1863 (7 Cos.). 2nd Brigade, Cavalry Division, Dept. Gulf, to December, 1863 (7 Cos.). District of Columbus, Ky., 6th Division, 16th Army Corps, to December, 1863 (Detachment). Waring's Cavalry Brigade, Cavalry Division, 16th Army Corps, to January, 1864 (Detachment). 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, 16th Army Corps, to June, 1864 (Detachment). 3rd Brigade, Cavalry Division, Dept. of the Gulf, December, 1863, to January, 1864 (7 Cos.). 4th Brigade, Cavalry Division, Dept. of the Gulf, to June, 1864 (7 Cos.). Unattached, Defenses of New Orleans, La., to August, 1864. 2nd Brigade, Cavalry Division, Dept. of the Gulf, to September, 1864. 3rd Brigade, Cavalry Division, Dept. of the Gulf, to February, 1865. Separate Cavalry Brigade, District of West Florida, to March, 1865. 2nd Brigade, Cavalry Division, District of West Florida, to April, 1865. 3rd Brigade, 1st Division, Cavalry Corps, Military Division West Mississippi, to June, 1865. Dept of Mississippi to November, 1865. SERVICE.--Duty in Military District of Cairo until February. 1862. Expedition to Belmont, Mo., November 6-7, 1861. Battle of Belmont November 7. Bertram, Mo., December 11. Charleston, Mo., December 13. Expedition to Camp Beauregard and Viola, Ky., December 28-31. Moved to Paducah, Ky., January 1, 1862. Expedition toward Fort Henry January 15-26. Operations against Fort Henry February 2-6 (Cos. "A" and "B"). Springfield February 12. Fort Donelson, Tenn., February 12-16 (Cos. "A" and "B"). Advance on Columbus, Ky., March 2 (6 Cos.). Operations against New Madrid and Island No. 10, Mo., February 28-April 8 (Cos. "G," "H," "I" and "K"). New Madrid March 2-3. Action, and capture of Columbus, Ky., March 3 (6 Cos.). Union City, Tenn., March 31 (Cos. "H" and "I"). Battle of Shiloh, Tenn., April 6-7 (Cos. "A" and "B"). Monterey April 28-29. Purdy April 29. Advance on and siege of Corinth April 29-May 30 (Cos. "A," "B," "C" and "D"). Expedition down Mississippi River to Fort Pillow, Tenn., May 19-23 (Cos. "G," "H," "I" and "K"). Expedition from Clifton in pursuit of Biffle's, Forest's and Newsome's Cavalry July 22-23. Gayoso, Tenn., August 4. Trenton, Tenn., August 7. Merriweather Ferry, Obeon River, August 16 (Co. "C"). White Oak Ridge August 19. Bolivar August 30 (4 Cos.). Somerville September 14. Battle of Iuka, Miss., September 19 (Detachment). Expedition from Bolivar to Grand Junction and LaGrange, and Skirmishes, September 20-22 (Cos. "C," "H," "K" and "M"). Expedition from Columbus, Ky., to Covington, Durhamsville and Fort Randolph, Ky., September 28-October 5 (Cos. "D" and "L"). Battle of Metamora, or Hatchie River, October 5 (Co. "A"). Island No. 10 October 17 (Co. "L"). Woodville October 21 (Detachment). Clarkson October 28 (Co. "D"). Grant's Central Mississippi Campaign October 31, 1862, to January 10, 1863. Reconnaissance from LaGrange to Colliersville, Tenn., November 5 (5 Cos.). Reconnaissance from LaGrange to Lamar, Miss., November 5 (2 Cos.). LaGrange November 6. Worsham's Creek, Miss., November 6 (2 Cos.). Carthage Road, near Hartsville, November 28 (Co. "H"). Holly Springs, Miss., December 20 (Cos. "C," "F," "G," "H," "I" and "K"). Ripley December 23 (Cos. "H" and "M"). Knob Creek, near Ripley January 8, 1863. Horn Lake Creek, February 8, 1863. Moscow Station, Tenn., February 14. Expedition from Young's Point, La., to Greenville, and Cypress Bend, Ark., February 14-29 (Detachment). Fish Lake, near Greenville, February 23 (Detachment). Expedition from Helena, Ark., to Yazoo Pass by Moon Lake, and Coldwater and Tallahatchie Rivers, February 24-April 8 (Co. "E"). Near Bloomington, on Hatchie River, February 27. Operations against Fort Pemberton and Greenwood March 13-April 5 (Co. "E"). Fort Pemberton March 24 (Co. "E"). Operations from Milliken's Bend, La., to New Carthage March 31-April 17 (Detachment). Roundaway Bayou, Richmond, March 31 (Detachment). Richmond April 4 (Detachment). Scout from LaGrange, Tenn., into Mississippi April 10-11 (Detachment). James' Plantation, near New Carthage, April 8 (Detachment). Dunbar's Plantation, Bayou Boeuf, April 15 (Detachment). Expedition from Perkins' Plantation to Hard Times Landing April 25-29. Fort Pillow April 26. Phelps' and Clark's Bayous April 26. Choctaw Bayou, on Lake Bruin, April 28. Turning Grand Gulf April 25-30 (4 Cos.). Battle of Port Gibson May 1. Willow Springs May 3 (Co. "C"). Near Black River May 5 (Detachment). Sandy Creek May 5 and 9 (Detachment). Utica May 9 and 10 (Cos. "A" and "E"). Coldwater May 11. Raymond May 12 (Cos. "A" and "E"). Hill's Ferry May 13 (Detachment). Jackson May 14 (Cos. "A" and "E"). Walnut Hill May 15. Champion's Hill May 16. Siege of Vicksburg May 18-July 4. Assaults on Vicksburg May 19 and 22. Haines Bluff May 23 (Detachment). Mechanicsburg May 29 (Detachment). Expedition to Satartia June 2-8. Satartia June 4. Coldwater, near Hernando, Miss., Juno 19. Hernando June 20. Moscow Station, Tenn., June 29. Advance on Jackson, Miss., July 5-10 (4 Cos.). Ripley July 7. Near Baker's Creek July 7. Bolton's Depot and near Clinton July 8. Near Jackson July 9, Brookhaven July 18. Scout from Fort Pillow, Tenn., August 3 (Detachment). Denmark August 3 (Detachment). Expedition from Fort Pillow to Jackson, Tenn., September 19-25 (5 Cos.). Moved to Dept. of the Gulf August, 1863 (7 Cos.). Sterling's Plantation on Bayou Fordoche, near Morganza, La., September 29. Western Louisiana Campaign October 3-November 30. Carrion Crow Bayou October 18. Opelousas and Barre's LandIng October 21. Washington October 24. Carrion Crow Bayou November 3. Rogersville, Tenn,, November G (Co. "M"). Carrion Crow Bayou and Vermillionville November 11. Obion River, near Union City, Tenn., November 19 (Detachment). Merriweather Ferry, near Union City, November 19 (Detachment). Camp Platt, La., November 20. Bayou Portage, La., November 23 (Detachment). Vermillionville, La., November 25. Camp Pratt November 25. St. Martinsville December 3 (Detachment). Okolona, Miss., December 9 (Detachment). Madrid Bend, La., December 9 (Detachment). Expedition from Union City to Trenton, Tenn., January 22-27, 1864 (1st Battalion). Smith's Expedition from Colliersville, Tenn., to Okolona, Miss., February 11-26 (5 Cos.). Prairie Station, Miss., and Okolona, Miss., February 21. Ivy's Hill, near Okolona, February 22. Hopefield, Ark., March 14. Red River Campaign March 14-May 22. Advance from Franklin to Alexandria, La., March 14-26. Bayou Rapides March 20. Monett's Ferry and Cloutiersville March 29-30. Natchitoches March 31. Crump's Hill, Piney Woods, April 2. Natchitoches April 5. Bayou de Paul April 8. Sabine Cross Roads April 8. About Cloutiersville April 22-24. Monett's Ferry, Cane River Crossing, April 23. Alexandria April 28 and May 2-9. Retreat to Morganza May 13-20. Near Alexandria May 14. Mansura May 16. Near Moreauville May 17. Yellow Bayou May 18. Steamer "City Belle" May 30. Regiment united at Baton Rouge, La., July, 1864. Operations near Baton Rouge July 3-25. Near Barton's Ferry, Amite River, July 25 (Detachment). Bayou Letsworth August 11. Expedition to Clinton August 23-29. Olive Branch, Comite River and Clinton August 25. Expedition from Baton Rouge to Clinton, Greensburg, Osyka and Camp Moore October 5-9. Clinton October 6. Lee's Expedition from Baton Rouge to Brookhaven, Miss., and Skirmishes, November 14-21. Davidson's Expedition from Baton Rouge against Mobile & Ohio R. R. November 27-December 13. Campaign against Mobile and its defenses March 17-April 12, 1865. Steele's march from Barrancas, Fla., to Fort Blakely March 18-31. Near Evergreen March 24. Muddy Creek March 26. Near Blakely April 1. Operations against Fort Blakely April 1-9. Expedition from Blakely to Claiborne April 9-17. Expedition from Blakely to Georgetown, Ga., April 17-30. Moved to Mississippi May, thence to Shreveport, La., June 14-21; thence to San Antonia, Texas, July 9-August 2. Mustered out November 22, 1865. Discharged at Springfield, Ill., January 3, 1866. Regiment lost during service 8 Officers and 50 Enlisted men killed and mortally wounded and 3 Officers and 173 Enlisted men by disease. Total 234. Tom Pearson

Phyllis, The U.S. Army Historical Institute in Carlisle Barracks, PA has some 1st Illinois Cavalry photos, including Pvt. Charles Schlechs of Co. A, and the regiment's Lt. Col., Henry Day. You can access their search screen at http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/PhotoDB.html. Tom Pearson

Anyone have info on this person or group.... Thanks in advance.... WILLIAMS, JAMES C D 2 CAV (What headstone say's) WILLIAMS, James C.- Recruit- 2nd CAV., Co.D- New Madrid, MO- New Madrid County- 7-16- 63- disch. 8-12-64 Missouri men who enlisted in Illinois Civil War regiments. The list includes all branches of service. The list is abstracted from the nine volume report of the Illinois Adjutant General (published in 1900 by Phillips Brothers). The first eight volumes list Civil War veterans, while volume 9 covers other 19th century wars. Listings in the Adjutant General volumes are by regiment and company. Denise Gibbs Kneifel http://members.aol.com/DeniseK322/index.html GIBBS KNEIFEL LANGEL/LENGYEL HANSEN MCCOLLEY MILLIGAN PARTAIN PULLINS WILLIAMS WHITE WOMACK WESTER WANDRY ZINN

Phyllis There was no 1st Regiment of Illinois Infantry. There was a 1st Illinois Cavalry. Assuming your man was in the 1st Cavalry, it will be very difficult to find anything regarding photographs of that regiment. NOT impossible - but difficult.

Hello, I have an ancestor who was in Co. H, Reg 1 of Illinois. Would anyone know of any military pictures of this group? Thank you Phyllis Higgins ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1