How did the recruits end up in Illinois counties when they had come to fight for the Union Army would, nt they have been on the East coast? Warren

Also, some men would write their names on pieces of paper and either pin or sew them to the backs of their uniforms in the hopes someone would read it and identify the remains.. I have heard of the burial details' going through the pockets of the fallen with long iron hooks..looking for anything..a letter, a note anything...to find an ID of some sort. It was a dreadfully sad time.

Thank you for clearing that up...I knew when I read that that a civil war ancestor had dog tags it wasn't correct, but before I could make a statement like that I needed more to go on...thanks so much for stating this fact! Perhaps if they had had dog tags during the civil war, there would have been less unidentified men on the battle ground...Rhonda Houston IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > It would be something...my g-g-gf was in the 88th Illinois and his descendants pitched most everything. Trivia: the Army did not issue formal "dog tags" until 1913. The soldiers in the CW would pay for them to be made by sutlers or friends. Dave Winship

http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/unit1.html Illinois Units Bibliography http://www.outfitters.com/illinois/history/civil/cwbiblio.html IL State Archives Database of IL CW Veterans http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/datcivil.html http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/datcivil.html Regimental Histories can be Downloaded of each the Illinois Civil War Regiment and Unit Histories in PDF format (1.4 megabytes). Requires Adobe Acrobat Reader 3.0 or later. For information concerning All Illinois units Melissa at: melissa@outfitters.com Rhonda Houston

Hello out there. Does anyone have any interesting tidbits on the 47th IL. My gr gr grandfather was killed at Corinth, Oct 3 1862. MLB IL-CIVIL-WAR-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > IL-CIVIL-WAR-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 67 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [IL-CIVIL-WAR] LAYMAN ["SGO Design Studio" <sgo@adweb.net] > #2 Re: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] LAYMAN ["clarkeh" <clarkeh@msn.com>] > #3 [IL-CIVIL-WAR] Co. F, 86th Illinoi [Terry Wilson <twilson@knox.edu>] > #4 [IL-CIVIL-WAR] Identification Tag [JAOARM@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from IL-CIVIL-WAR-D, send a message to > > IL-CIVIL-WAR-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] LAYMAN > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:58:14 -0700 > From: "SGO Design Studio" <sgo@adweb.net> > To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello List, > It's been awhile since I last post anything on my GGG Grandfather, so here > goes. Any help, Ideas, suggestions, and / or comments would be appreciated. > > FREDERICK H LAYMAN was born on or around February 16, 1830 in Hannover, > Germany, and on or about 1857, at the age of 27 immigrated to the United > States and settled near Benton, Illinois. > > Said by some: > Spelling of our last name was Americanized (Lehmann, von Lehmann or ?). > Frederick immigrated to this country (USA) with a brother (name unknown). > His father may have served as a high-ranking officer in the Prussian Army. > His father's name may also have been Frederick. > Some say he may have worked on a ship for his passage. > His father may have sent him to the USA to keep him out of the military. > He may have taken an indirect rout via England and then onto the United > States. > > Very little is known of Frederick before his military service in the Civil > War. We have been unable to locate his port of entry, immigration or > naturalization records, and /or any kind of citizenship records. We were > told that an application for citizenship was not needed if one served in the > military, so I may be looking at a dead end. The information we do have is > all based on stories and the information obtained from his Civil War > military records. All I can find is that he was from Hannover. > > Frederick H Layman enlisted in Company "H" 48th Regiment Volunteers Infantry > from White County, IL. on September 10, 1861 at Camp Butler Illinois (Union > Army) under the command of General Asher Goslen. At the time of his > enlistment he lived near or in Carmi, Illinois (White County) and was 32 > years old. According to his enlistment papers he was 5ft 6in tall, his hair > color was black in color, and he had brown eyes and a dark complexion. He > was wounded in the right arm between the elbow and the shoulder in the > battle of Shiloh and saw action at FT. Henry, Ft Donnellson, Siege of > Vicksburg, and lookout Mt.. He developed chronic diarrhea and was discharged > from the service for disability at the rank of corporal. After he was > discharged from the military in 1862 he married his first wife (1) Mary > Charlotte Younginger Abt. 1863 in Poseyville, Indiana. They had two > children, Charles Layman born in 1864, and John Layman born about 1867, who > must have died sometime before 1870. After Mary's death he married (2) Sarah > J. Simpson October 15, 1868 in White County, Illinois. They had no children. > Upon the death of Sarah he married his third wife (3) Mary Downen on October > 01, 1871 in Posey County, Indiana. They had three children named Archibald > Frank Layman, born in 1873, Rachel P. Layman, born 1881, and Caroline E. > Layman, born 1884. An Orphan by the name of Mary Ormsby born in 1873 is > listed as living with them (1870 Federal Census). Fred passed away in 1886 > due to complications attributed to his gunshot wound in the arm. Frederick H > Layman was buried at Knob Prairie Cemetery in Franklin County, IL. > > Mary Charlotte Younginger (unable to find much information) was born around > 1844. Her father was Charles Younginger, and as far as we can gather the > Younginger family emigrated from Germany. Charles owned and operated a > grocery store in Poseyvillie, IN., and may have also worked as a Cooper > (someone who makes wooden barrels or tubs). Nothing is known about her > mother except her name, which was Elizabeth Knight. We do know that she had > at lest one sister who was named Margaret Younginger. It is believed that > Charlotte died during childbirth at the young age of 24. > Children > (`1) Charles Louis Layman married Georgia Ida Puckett > (2) John (?) Layman died in infancy > > Sarah J. Simpson was born in Arkansas in 1830 and was the 2nd wife of Thomas > Henry Sumpter who was a veteran of the 29th Regiment of Illinois Volunteers > and fought along side Fred H Layman at the Battle of Shiloh and was also > wounded. They were married on January 17, 1867. It was only 14 days later > that Thomas Sumpter died of medical complications from injuries received in > the war. Sarah married Frederick H Layman on Oct 15, 1868 and passed away in > 1871. > No Children > > Mary Downen was born in Posey County, IN, and was the daughter of David R > Downen and Mary J South. Mary lived on a farm in Posey County, IN., until > 1851 when she and her family moved to White County, Illinois and settled on > the present family farm on section 31, Burent Prairie Township. Mary Downen > came from a family of 11 children including herself. On Sept. 4, 1909 at the > age of 63, 23 years after the death of her husband Fred, the Illinois > Christian Conference licensed Mary to preach the gospel. Mary Downen Layman > passed away on Jan. 2, 1932 and was laid to rest next to her beloved husband > Fred at Knob Prairie Cemetery. > > Children > (1) Archibald Frank Layman married Minnie McKee > (2) Christopher D Layman died in infancy > (3) Rachel Pressy Layman married Charles E Downs > (4) Caroline E Layman married Charles Haley > > Fred Layman > sgo@adweb.net > www.adweb.net/sgo > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] LAYMAN > Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:22:30 -0700 > From: "clarkeh" <clarkeh@msn.com> > To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com > > If you ddo not already know about it, you might find the Civil War Round > Table of Stuttgart to be of interest: > > www.uni-stuttgart.de/ilwam/civil/home.htm > > Clarke Harrison > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SGO Design Studio" <sgo@adweb.net> > To: <IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 7:58 PM > Subject: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] LAYMAN > > > Hello List, > > It's been awhile since I last post anything on my GGG Grandfather, so here > > goes. Any help, Ideas, suggestions, and / or comments would be > appreciated. > > > > > > FREDERICK H LAYMAN was born on or around February 16, 1830 in Hannover, > > Germany, and on or about 1857, at the age of 27 immigrated to the United > > States and settled near Benton, Illinois. > > > > Said by some: > > Spelling of our last name was Americanized (Lehmann, von Lehmann or ?). > > Frederick immigrated to this country (USA) with a brother (name unknown). > > His father may have served as a high-ranking officer in the Prussian > Army. > > His father's name may also have been Frederick. > > Some say he may have worked on a ship for his passage. > > His father may have sent him to the USA to keep him out of the military. > > He may have taken an indirect rout via England and then onto the United > > States. > > > > Very little is known of Frederick before his military service in the Civil > > War. We have been unable to locate his port of entry, immigration or > > naturalization records, and /or any kind of citizenship records. We were > > told that an application for citizenship was not needed if one served in > the > > military, so I may be looking at a dead end. The information we do have is > > all based on stories and the information obtained from his Civil War > > military records. All I can find is that he was from Hannover. > > > > > > Frederick H Layman enlisted in Company "H" 48th Regiment Volunteers > Infantry > > from White County, IL. on September 10, 1861 at Camp Butler Illinois > (Union > > Army) under the command of General Asher Goslen. At the time of his > > enlistment he lived near or in Carmi, Illinois (White County) and was 32 > > years old. According to his enlistment papers he was 5ft 6in tall, his > hair > > color was black in color, and he had brown eyes and a dark complexion. He > > was wounded in the right arm between the elbow and the shoulder in the > > battle of Shiloh and saw action at FT. Henry, Ft Donnellson, Siege of > > Vicksburg, and lookout Mt.. He developed chronic diarrhea and was > discharged > > from the service for disability at the rank of corporal. After he was > > discharged from the military in 1862 he married his first wife (1) Mary > > Charlotte Younginger Abt. 1863 in Poseyville, Indiana. They had two > > children, Charles Layman born in 1864, and John Layman born about 1867, > who > > must have died sometime before 1870. After Mary's death he married (2) > Sarah > > J. Simpson October 15, 1868 in White County, Illinois. They had no > children. > > Upon the death of Sarah he married his third wife (3) Mary Downen on > October > > 01, 1871 in Posey County, Indiana. They had three children named > Archibald > > Frank Layman, born in 1873, Rachel P. Layman, born 1881, and Caroline E. > > Layman, born 1884. An Orphan by the name of Mary Ormsby born in 1873 is > > listed as living with them (1870 Federal Census). Fred passed away in > 1886 > > due to complications attributed to his gunshot wound in the arm. Frederick > H > > Layman was buried at Knob Prairie Cemetery in Franklin County, IL. > > > > Mary Charlotte Younginger (unable to find much information) was born > around > > 1844. Her father was Charles Younginger, and as far as we can gather the > > Younginger family emigrated from Germany. Charles owned and operated a > > grocery store in Poseyvillie, IN., and may have also worked as a Cooper > > (someone who makes wooden barrels or tubs). Nothing is known about her > > mother except her name, which was Elizabeth Knight. We do know that she > had > > at lest one sister who was named Margaret Younginger. It is believed that > > Charlotte died during childbirth at the young age of 24. > > Children > > (`1) Charles Louis Layman married Georgia Ida Puckett > > (2) John (?) Layman died in infancy > > > > Sarah J. Simpson was born in Arkansas in 1830 and was the 2nd wife of > Thomas > > Henry Sumpter who was a veteran of the 29th Regiment of Illinois > Volunteers > > and fought along side Fred H Layman at the Battle of Shiloh and was also > > wounded. They were married on January 17, 1867. It was only 14 days later > > that Thomas Sumpter died of medical complications from injuries received > in > > the war. Sarah married Frederick H Layman on Oct 15, 1868 and passed away > in > > 1871. > > No Children > > > > Mary Downen was born in Posey County, IN, and was the daughter of David R > > Downen and Mary J South. Mary lived on a farm in Posey County, IN., until > > 1851 when she and her family moved to White County, Illinois and settled > on > > the present family farm on section 31, Burent Prairie Township. Mary > Downen > > came from a family of 11 children including herself. On Sept. 4, 1909 at > the > > age of 63, 23 years after the death of her husband Fred, the Illinois > > Christian Conference licensed Mary to preach the gospel. Mary Downen > Layman > > passed away on Jan. 2, 1932 and was laid to rest next to her beloved > husband > > Fred at Knob Prairie Cemetery. > > > > Children > > (1) Archibald Frank Layman married Minnie McKee > > (2) Christopher D Layman died in infancy > > (3) Rachel Pressy Layman married Charles E Downs > > (4) Caroline E Layman married Charles Haley > > > > Fred Layman > > sgo@adweb.net > > www.adweb.net/sgo > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] Co. F, 86th Illinois > Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:04:44 -0500 > From: Terry Wilson <twilson@knox.edu> > To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com > > I would like to contact anyone with information on Co. F, 86th Illinois > Infantry. I plan to write a brief history of the company and would like > to find letters, diaries and photographs from any of its members. > Additionally, I'm also looking for biographical information on members > of the company, including burial sites. I would like as well to find > anything on reunions and the post-war careers of the members of the > company. Anyone having any such information or knowing the whereabouts > of such information is invited to contact me through personal e-mail. > Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. > > Terry Wilson > Knox College > Galesburg, Illinois > twilson@knox.edu > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] Identification Tag > Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:25:27 EDT > From: JAOARM@aol.com > To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com > > Someone in our local Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War Camp located a > "Civil War dog tag" and asked for info on such tags. A good example and info > is given at the following site. Wouldn't you give your eye teeth for one of > these that belonged to your ancestor. John O'Neal, Embreeville, PA > > <A HREF="http://www.bpmlegal.com/76NY/dogtag.html">Click here: Identification Tag of C.H. > Smithhttp://www.bpmlegal.com/76NY/dogtag.html</A>

It would be something...my g-g-gf was in the 88th Illinois and his descendants pitched most everything. Trivia: the Army did not issue formal "dog tags" until 1913. The soldiers in the CW would pay for them to be made by sutlers or friends. Dave Winship

Someone in our local Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War Camp located a "Civil War dog tag" and asked for info on such tags. A good example and info is given at the following site. Wouldn't you give your eye teeth for one of these that belonged to your ancestor. John O'Neal, Embreeville, PA <A HREF="http://www.bpmlegal.com/76NY/dogtag.html">Click here: Identification Tag of C.H. Smithhttp://www.bpmlegal.com/76NY/dogtag.html</A>

I would like to contact anyone with information on Co. F, 86th Illinois Infantry. I plan to write a brief history of the company and would like to find letters, diaries and photographs from any of its members. Additionally, I'm also looking for biographical information on members of the company, including burial sites. I would like as well to find anything on reunions and the post-war careers of the members of the company. Anyone having any such information or knowing the whereabouts of such information is invited to contact me through personal e-mail. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Terry Wilson Knox College Galesburg, Illinois twilson@knox.edu

If you ddo not already know about it, you might find the Civil War Round Table of Stuttgart to be of interest: www.uni-stuttgart.de/ilwam/civil/home.htm Clarke Harrison ----- Original Message ----- From: "SGO Design Studio" <sgo@adweb.net> To: <IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 7:58 PM Subject: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] LAYMAN > Hello List, > It's been awhile since I last post anything on my GGG Grandfather, so here > goes. Any help, Ideas, suggestions, and / or comments would be appreciated. > > > FREDERICK H LAYMAN was born on or around February 16, 1830 in Hannover, > Germany, and on or about 1857, at the age of 27 immigrated to the United > States and settled near Benton, Illinois. > > Said by some: > Spelling of our last name was Americanized (Lehmann, von Lehmann or ?). > Frederick immigrated to this country (USA) with a brother (name unknown). > His father may have served as a high-ranking officer in the Prussian Army. > His father's name may also have been Frederick. > Some say he may have worked on a ship for his passage. > His father may have sent him to the USA to keep him out of the military. > He may have taken an indirect rout via England and then onto the United > States. > > Very little is known of Frederick before his military service in the Civil > War. We have been unable to locate his port of entry, immigration or > naturalization records, and /or any kind of citizenship records. We were > told that an application for citizenship was not needed if one served in the > military, so I may be looking at a dead end. The information we do have is > all based on stories and the information obtained from his Civil War > military records. All I can find is that he was from Hannover. > > > Frederick H Layman enlisted in Company "H" 48th Regiment Volunteers Infantry > from White County, IL. on September 10, 1861 at Camp Butler Illinois (Union > Army) under the command of General Asher Goslen. At the time of his > enlistment he lived near or in Carmi, Illinois (White County) and was 32 > years old. According to his enlistment papers he was 5ft 6in tall, his hair > color was black in color, and he had brown eyes and a dark complexion. He > was wounded in the right arm between the elbow and the shoulder in the > battle of Shiloh and saw action at FT. Henry, Ft Donnellson, Siege of > Vicksburg, and lookout Mt.. He developed chronic diarrhea and was discharged > from the service for disability at the rank of corporal. After he was > discharged from the military in 1862 he married his first wife (1) Mary > Charlotte Younginger Abt. 1863 in Poseyville, Indiana. They had two > children, Charles Layman born in 1864, and John Layman born about 1867, who > must have died sometime before 1870. After Mary's death he married (2) Sarah > J. Simpson October 15, 1868 in White County, Illinois. They had no children. > Upon the death of Sarah he married his third wife (3) Mary Downen on October > 01, 1871 in Posey County, Indiana. They had three children named Archibald > Frank Layman, born in 1873, Rachel P. Layman, born 1881, and Caroline E. > Layman, born 1884. An Orphan by the name of Mary Ormsby born in 1873 is > listed as living with them (1870 Federal Census). Fred passed away in 1886 > due to complications attributed to his gunshot wound in the arm. Frederick H > Layman was buried at Knob Prairie Cemetery in Franklin County, IL. > > Mary Charlotte Younginger (unable to find much information) was born around > 1844. Her father was Charles Younginger, and as far as we can gather the > Younginger family emigrated from Germany. Charles owned and operated a > grocery store in Poseyvillie, IN., and may have also worked as a Cooper > (someone who makes wooden barrels or tubs). Nothing is known about her > mother except her name, which was Elizabeth Knight. We do know that she had > at lest one sister who was named Margaret Younginger. It is believed that > Charlotte died during childbirth at the young age of 24. > Children > (`1) Charles Louis Layman married Georgia Ida Puckett > (2) John (?) Layman died in infancy > > Sarah J. Simpson was born in Arkansas in 1830 and was the 2nd wife of Thomas > Henry Sumpter who was a veteran of the 29th Regiment of Illinois Volunteers > and fought along side Fred H Layman at the Battle of Shiloh and was also > wounded. They were married on January 17, 1867. It was only 14 days later > that Thomas Sumpter died of medical complications from injuries received in > the war. Sarah married Frederick H Layman on Oct 15, 1868 and passed away in > 1871. > No Children > > Mary Downen was born in Posey County, IN, and was the daughter of David R > Downen and Mary J South. Mary lived on a farm in Posey County, IN., until > 1851 when she and her family moved to White County, Illinois and settled on > the present family farm on section 31, Burent Prairie Township. Mary Downen > came from a family of 11 children including herself. On Sept. 4, 1909 at the > age of 63, 23 years after the death of her husband Fred, the Illinois > Christian Conference licensed Mary to preach the gospel. Mary Downen Layman > passed away on Jan. 2, 1932 and was laid to rest next to her beloved husband > Fred at Knob Prairie Cemetery. > > Children > (1) Archibald Frank Layman married Minnie McKee > (2) Christopher D Layman died in infancy > (3) Rachel Pressy Layman married Charles E Downs > (4) Caroline E Layman married Charles Haley > > Fred Layman > sgo@adweb.net > www.adweb.net/sgo >

Hello List, It's been awhile since I last post anything on my GGG Grandfather, so here goes. Any help, Ideas, suggestions, and / or comments would be appreciated. FREDERICK H LAYMAN was born on or around February 16, 1830 in Hannover, Germany, and on or about 1857, at the age of 27 immigrated to the United States and settled near Benton, Illinois. Said by some: Spelling of our last name was Americanized (Lehmann, von Lehmann or ?). Frederick immigrated to this country (USA) with a brother (name unknown). His father may have served as a high-ranking officer in the Prussian Army. His father's name may also have been Frederick. Some say he may have worked on a ship for his passage. His father may have sent him to the USA to keep him out of the military. He may have taken an indirect rout via England and then onto the United States. Very little is known of Frederick before his military service in the Civil War. We have been unable to locate his port of entry, immigration or naturalization records, and /or any kind of citizenship records. We were told that an application for citizenship was not needed if one served in the military, so I may be looking at a dead end. The information we do have is all based on stories and the information obtained from his Civil War military records. All I can find is that he was from Hannover. Frederick H Layman enlisted in Company "H" 48th Regiment Volunteers Infantry from White County, IL. on September 10, 1861 at Camp Butler Illinois (Union Army) under the command of General Asher Goslen. At the time of his enlistment he lived near or in Carmi, Illinois (White County) and was 32 years old. According to his enlistment papers he was 5ft 6in tall, his hair color was black in color, and he had brown eyes and a dark complexion. He was wounded in the right arm between the elbow and the shoulder in the battle of Shiloh and saw action at FT. Henry, Ft Donnellson, Siege of Vicksburg, and lookout Mt.. He developed chronic diarrhea and was discharged from the service for disability at the rank of corporal. After he was discharged from the military in 1862 he married his first wife (1) Mary Charlotte Younginger Abt. 1863 in Poseyville, Indiana. They had two children, Charles Layman born in 1864, and John Layman born about 1867, who must have died sometime before 1870. After Mary's death he married (2) Sarah J. Simpson October 15, 1868 in White County, Illinois. They had no children. Upon the death of Sarah he married his third wife (3) Mary Downen on October 01, 1871 in Posey County, Indiana. They had three children named Archibald Frank Layman, born in 1873, Rachel P. Layman, born 1881, and Caroline E. Layman, born 1884. An Orphan by the name of Mary Ormsby born in 1873 is listed as living with them (1870 Federal Census). Fred passed away in 1886 due to complications attributed to his gunshot wound in the arm. Frederick H Layman was buried at Knob Prairie Cemetery in Franklin County, IL. Mary Charlotte Younginger (unable to find much information) was born around 1844. Her father was Charles Younginger, and as far as we can gather the Younginger family emigrated from Germany. Charles owned and operated a grocery store in Poseyvillie, IN., and may have also worked as a Cooper (someone who makes wooden barrels or tubs). Nothing is known about her mother except her name, which was Elizabeth Knight. We do know that she had at lest one sister who was named Margaret Younginger. It is believed that Charlotte died during childbirth at the young age of 24. Children (`1) Charles Louis Layman married Georgia Ida Puckett (2) John (?) Layman died in infancy Sarah J. Simpson was born in Arkansas in 1830 and was the 2nd wife of Thomas Henry Sumpter who was a veteran of the 29th Regiment of Illinois Volunteers and fought along side Fred H Layman at the Battle of Shiloh and was also wounded. They were married on January 17, 1867. It was only 14 days later that Thomas Sumpter died of medical complications from injuries received in the war. Sarah married Frederick H Layman on Oct 15, 1868 and passed away in 1871. No Children Mary Downen was born in Posey County, IN, and was the daughter of David R Downen and Mary J South. Mary lived on a farm in Posey County, IN., until 1851 when she and her family moved to White County, Illinois and settled on the present family farm on section 31, Burent Prairie Township. Mary Downen came from a family of 11 children including herself. On Sept. 4, 1909 at the age of 63, 23 years after the death of her husband Fred, the Illinois Christian Conference licensed Mary to preach the gospel. Mary Downen Layman passed away on Jan. 2, 1932 and was laid to rest next to her beloved husband Fred at Knob Prairie Cemetery. Children (1) Archibald Frank Layman married Minnie McKee (2) Christopher D Layman died in infancy (3) Rachel Pressy Layman married Charles E Downs (4) Caroline E Layman married Charles Haley Fred Layman sgo@adweb.net www.adweb.net/sgo

Found this url while surfing and thought some of you would like to browse through it. Rhonda Houston http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html

Is there any other ways of finding literature on this 30th Illinois Infantry? My grandfather was a fife player with the bugle boys in the Sherman's march to the Sea. Richard Charles Sample ----- Original Message ----- From: <UserChris4124@cs.com> To: <IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 8:01 PM Subject: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] 30th Illinois diary > there's a diary by Edward Grow, Co. A, 30th Illinois, on ebay right now > (#1151974006). > >

there's a diary by Edward Grow, Co. A, 30th Illinois, on ebay right now (#1151974006).

Erinie, Someone else on another list that I'm on ask about this same thing....he is from Muhlenberg,Ky (a native Kentuckian) looking for this information. Here's what I suggested for them to do. I'd have to do some more research before I can give you anyother information. Perhaps Mr. Tom Pearson can assist further? I'll continue to search...Rhonda http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/parks/i65frames/greenriv-body.htm There are two maps which describes where the Green River is located. Kentucky's State Land Office: Virginia land grand surveys in Kentucky, 1774-96 can be seen at a Family History Center/Library on film # 0272939. The original and typescript copies are at the State Land Office in Frankfort. Virginia Land Office: Commonwealth grans or patents, 1779-94m 1801 now in Kenturcky (Richmond:Virginia State Library, 1949, are on FHC film # 0007811. These original records are at the State Land Office in Richmond. A book I would recommend for you to see if you can obtain via interlibrary loan if necessary, if the library doesn't have it available in its own library would be: Guide to Naturalization Records of the United States by Christine K. Schaefer ISBN #0-8063-1532-6. Naturalization records are important sources for tracing immigrants to the United States, including the Irish. They may tell the date and port of arrival as well as the specific place of origin in Ireland. The most difficult aspect of using naturalization records is often finding the papers for the relevant court in which the ancestor was naturalized. Many different courts (local, county, state, federal) could naturalize and so the possibilities are numerous; so are the possibilities for where the records may be today--with the court or in a central repository. Schaefer's book is a valuable contribution to American genealogical literature--particularly for immigrants--both because her introduction well explains the naturalization process and resulting documents and because her book catalogs state-by-state, county-by-county the location of naturalization records created at the various levels of government. Listing all of the naturalization records deposited across the United States was a mammoth task for which the genealogical community will be grateful to Schaefer. However, no comprehensive undertaking of this kind could be exhaustive or perfect. Consider, for example, the naturalization records of St. Joseph County, Indiana, where the city of South Bend is located. Schaefer indicates that the original naturalization records are held by the St. Joseph County Courthouse. However, it is only the court order books recording naturalization orders that are retained at the county level. Schaefer does not mention that the Indiana State Archives now holds the declarations of intention and petitions for naturalization for St. Joseph County. Schaefer's book may therefore be used as a guide to the location of records with which the researcher can make more specific inquiries either in local reference works or by calling the court or repository of interest. This is the best I can do so far ...Since it is online information that you want I think you are going to have a small problem. I am going to have to do some research on this one. Will be back soon. Rhonda Houston -----Original Message----- From: HELTSLEY@aol.com [mailto:HELTSLEY@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 11:30 AM To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] untitiled Rhonda, Could you or anyone else tell me more about the Green River Ky country being set aside for Rev. War Vets.? I knew several of the settlers, including my ancestors, in that area were Rev. War soldiers but I didn't know how extensive. Three Helsley brothers settled in there around 1800. Thanks, Ernie Heltsley/Muhlenberg,Ky native/

Rhonda, Could you or anyone else tell me more about the Green River Ky country being set aside for Rev. War Vets.? I knew several of the settlers, including my ancestors, in that area were Rev. War soldiers but I didn't know how extensive. Three Helsley brothers settled in there around 1800. Thanks, Ernie Heltsley/Muhlenberg,Ky native/

http://world.std.com/~ata/cwrdoc.htm http://world.std.com/~ata/drbiblo.htm I just found these two urls as I was trying to find out something about the Green River area of KY which was set aside for Rev. War vets!! Here's a whole collection of documents and information gathered by members of the CW Reenactors Mailing List of interest and assistance to both Civil War reenactors and genealogists. Rhonda Houston

List members: There have been a number of questions on this list recently about Civil War uniforms and equipment. The following books on the subject can help. Some are currently in print, while some are out-of-print (OP) and would need to be examined at a library or tracked down through used book dealers (you can do easy searches for used books at this URL: http://www.addall.com/Used/). Arms & Equipment of the Confederacy. Time-Life Books, 1991. Currently OP. I have seen this book and its companion of the Confederacy on the remainder table at Barnes and Noble in the past (I bought my copies there). Arms and Equipment of the Union. Time-Life Books, 1991. In print- Amazon.com has new for $31.96, used for $19.95. Haythornthwaite, Philip J. Uniforms of the Civil War in Color. Sterling Publishing Co., 1990. Currently OP. Lloyd, Mark. Combat Uniforms of the Civil War, 4 volumes. Chelsea House Publishers, 1999. In print- Amazon.com has new (all 4 volumes) for $74.95- all 4 volumes used for $50.00. Individual volumes can also be purchased new for $18.74 apiece. Lord, Francis. Civil War Collector's Encyclopedia: Arms, Uniforms, and Equipment of the Union and Confederacy. Stackpole, 1963. Currently OP. Ogden, Henry A. Uniforms of the United States Army, 1774-1889. Dover Publications, 1998. In print- Amazon.com has new for $8.95 (black-and-white illustrations). You can also see other in-print titles about Civil War uniforms by searching the books category at Amazon.com for these phrases: "Uniforms," "Combat Uniforms," and "Arms and Equipment." Tom Pearson

There are thousands of sources of information about the uniforms. The easiest places to go to are those "Sutlers" that manufacture reproduction uniforms. There are some photos at these sites: http://www.fcsutler.com/fcusuniforms.html http://www.grand-illusion.com/store/Html/frontpage.html There is also a site with some pictures of the original uniforms at: http://www2.inxpress.net/jwedeward/original_civil_war_uniforms.htm Also, you might just try typing "union civil war uniforms" into Google and do a search. Who knows what you might find? -----Original Message----- From: Rhonda Houston [mailto:rfhouston@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:55 PM To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] Uniforms Where could someone go to SEE this uniform? Is there any printed book that a person could view this uniform and any others of that period? Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: Jack [mailto:jack_cox@swbell.net] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:38 AM To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] Uniforms The standard issue for privates in Illinois - and most of the Union army - was a sky blue Kersey wool with no trim. There were a couple of versions issued by different depots - but they werent significantly different. J. T. Martin was the largest supplier of Union uniforms. Although you didn't ask, the standard issue jacket was a dark blue wool sack coat with four brass eagle buttons. Again, J. T. Martin was the largest supplier. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sanburn [mailto:joesanburn@kconline.com] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:24 AM To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] Uniforms Greetings. My Grandfather was a Private in the 125th IL. INF. CO. "B". I am trying to get an accurate uniform that he might have worn and am not sure of the correct color of trousers, dark blue or sky blue. Thanks for any help anyone can give. Respectfully, Joseph F. Sanburn, Jr.

Where could someone go to SEE this uniform? Is there any printed book that a person could view this uniform and any others of that period? Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: Jack [mailto:jack_cox@swbell.net] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:38 AM To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] Uniforms The standard issue for privates in Illinois - and most of the Union army - was a sky blue Kersey wool with no trim. There were a couple of versions issued by different depots - but they werent significantly different. J. T. Martin was the largest supplier of Union uniforms. Although you didn't ask, the standard issue jacket was a dark blue wool sack coat with four brass eagle buttons. Again, J. T. Martin was the largest supplier. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sanburn [mailto:joesanburn@kconline.com] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:24 AM To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] Uniforms Greetings. My Grandfather was a Private in the 125th IL. INF. CO. "B". I am trying to get an accurate uniform that he might have worn and am not sure of the correct color of trousers, dark blue or sky blue. Thanks for any help anyone can give. Respectfully, Joseph F. Sanburn, Jr.

The standard issue for privates in Illinois - and most of the Union army - was a sky blue Kersey wool with no trim. There were a couple of versions issued by different depots - but they werent significantly different. J. T. Martin was the largest supplier of Union uniforms. Although you didn't ask, the standard issue jacket was a dark blue wool sack coat with four brass eagle buttons. Again, J. T. Martin was the largest supplier. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Sanburn [mailto:joesanburn@kconline.com] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:24 AM To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] Uniforms Greetings. My Grandfather was a Private in the 125th IL. INF. CO. "B". I am trying to get an accurate uniform that he might have worn and am not sure of the correct color of trousers, dark blue or sky blue. Thanks for any help anyone can give. Respectfully, Joseph F. Sanburn, Jr.