Can someone on this knowledgeable list tell me anything about Camp Lincoln? Was it of the Civil War era? I have a photo of a soldier dated 1887 which I know was after the civil war. -Brenda

Amy, Camp Douglas was a camp for Illinois recruits in Chicago. It was named for Stephen A. Douglas, the U.S. Senator from Illinois, who had recently died. It was located near Lake Michigan. No special thought was given to sanitation, and for that reason numerous Union recruits and Confederate prisoners died while there who needn't have done so. Confederate prisoners began to be sent there in 1862, as other camps filled up, and it was used as a prison camp until 1865. There is a good book, To Die in Chicago: Confederate Prisoners at Camp Douglas, by George Levy, Pelican Publishing, ISBN 1565543319, $25, which you can get through interlibrary loan or through Barnes and Noble.com or Amazon.com. Hope this helps, Tom Pearson

Amy,,,, Try this link..Not much...but only link I can find. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/3071/enlisted/campdoug.html Please visit my website which is dedicated to those Civil War Prisoners of War who were held captive for what they believed in. http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Emily" <Bemily@kc.rr.com> To: <IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 8:12 AM Subject: [IL-CIVIL-WAR] Camp Douglas > Looking for more information on Camp Douglas POW camp. > My Leonard Sparks died there. > Any one with any info on this camp I would appreciate hearing from you . > Amy Beth Emily > 10913 W57th Apt. B > Shawnee, KS 66203 > (913) 248-9841 > Bemily@kc.rr.com >

Looking for more information on Camp Douglas POW camp. My Leonard Sparks died there. Any one with any info on this camp I would appreciate hearing from you . Amy Beth Emily 10913 W57th Apt. B Shawnee, KS 66203 (913) 248-9841 Bemily@kc.rr.com

Well I'm not sure if I'm doing anything with them....the 79th and 123rd....but I am very interested in both. I had a ggGrandfather in the 79th and a cousin many times removed in the 123rd. Kevin S. Coy Lon and Mary Margaret Lacey wrote: > Illinois Civil War folks - I just got on the site. > > Is anyone doing anything with the 7th, 79th, or 123rd Illinois Volunteer Infantry regiments? Secondarily, the 12th and 59th IVI? > > Lon > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

I have some interest, also - since my ggGrandfather was in Co K, 7th Illinois. Website on him is at: http://www.grapevine.net/~jack_cox/HTML_Pages/george_palmer.html thecoys@together.net wrote: > Well I'm not sure if I'm doing anything with them....the 79th and 123rd....but I am very interested in both. I had a ggGrandfather > in the 79th and a cousin many times removed in the 123rd. > > Kevin S. Coy > > Lon and Mary Margaret Lacey wrote: > > > Illinois Civil War folks - I just got on the site. > > > > Is anyone doing anything with the 7th, 79th, or 123rd Illinois Volunteer Infantry regiments? Secondarily, the 12th and 59th IVI? > > > > Lon > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

If you two boys don't quit I'm going to make you both go out back and cut a switch. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: JIM DAVIS <jdd@grnco.net> To: <IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 4:29 AM Subject: Fw: Co.A 135th-anapology > I made this state ment to one person and should have addressed the list. > SORRY > > > > I did not and will never say any form of slavery is acceptable at all. But > I > > believe in Facts ,and like they say to the victor goes the spoiles and > also > > the history books. I have family and a great number of them that fought on > > boath sides that is the tragidy of it.and lost many of them on boath sides > > ,I do not want to debate the issue ,I gust believe that all the facts > should > > be known.The South was Ritch over its Cotton and Tobacco world trade and > the > > North was Poor ,so they raised the taxes so high the South did the only > > thing they could do ,like other states did before , > > JIM > > > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

I ain't had one of them used on me in over 50 years. JIM

Illinois Civil War folks - I just got on the site. Is anyone doing anything with the 7th, 79th, or 123rd Illinois Volunteer Infantry regiments? Secondarily, the 12th and 59th IVI? Lon

I made this state ment to one person and should have addressed the list. SORRY > I did not and will never say any form of slavery is acceptable at all. But I > believe in Facts ,and like they say to the victor goes the spoiles and also > the history books. I have family and a great number of them that fought on > boath sides that is the tragidy of it.and lost many of them on boath sides > ,I do not want to debate the issue ,I gust believe that all the facts should > be known.The South was Ritch over its Cotton and Tobacco world trade and the > North was Poor ,so they raised the taxes so high the South did the only > thing they could do ,like other states did before , > JIM > >

Considering that slavery had existed for 250 years in the US, eighteen months is a very short time. The concern at the start was to keep the Border States happy. And the statement that Lincoln did not free the slaves in the White House until the night before is just plain false. First, slavery was abolished in the District of Columbia, by law, signed on April 16, 1862. So, if any slaves were employed in the White House, they would have been freed then. Second, I wonder at your source for that statement. I have been doing some checking in various sources and do not find any reference that any slaves were used in the White House during the Lincoln administration. There may have been, but no where do I find mention of them. Of course slaves *were* used in the Confederate White House -- and they provided excellent intelligence to the U.S. forces throughout the War. And it was always called "The Civil War" or "the War of the Rebellion" -- before and after the Emancipation Proclamation. Take care, Bob Judy and Bob Huddleston 10643 Sperry Street Northglenn, CO 80234-3612 303.451.6276 Adco@FilmsToSee.Com THe war started 1861,South Carolina seceded Dec 20.1860. LINCOLN did not free the Slaves till JAN,01,1863.He didn't even free the slaves in the White House till the night before. Before that it was called LINCOLN'S War.Take a good look at history . JIM

> > The worst tragidy of all from the Civilwar. That in 20 years it would not > > have had to be fought, the Tractor would would have put Slavery out of > > buisness,But Southern Historians know the war was not fought over slavery > > anyway . > > JIM True historians 'know' the root cause of the Civil War WAS slavery. No, not the only cause, but the main cause. Jefferson and other founding Fathers saw the conflict coming 50 years earlier. How many more Negroes would have died in bondage in that "20 years" and how many more would have suffered? My apologies in advance for this soapbox speech for those who are here for Illinois history. Andrew from South Carolina.

Robbie, Joseph is most likely buried at Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery (2900 Sheridan Rd., St. Louis 63125, 314-260-8691). Tom Pearson -----Original Message----- From: IL-CIVIL-WAR-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:IL-CIVIL-WAR-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 5:00 AM To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-D@rootsweb.com Subject: IL-CIVIL-WAR-D Digest V01 #4 << Message: ATT00002.eml (630 bytes) >> << Message: RE: IL-CIVIL-WAR-D Digest V01 #3 (891 bytes) >> << Message: Joseph H. Call -- Co. A of the 135th Illinois Regulars (739 bytes) >> << Message: Re: Joseph H. Call -- Co. A of the 135th Illinois Regulars (894 bytes) >> << Message: Re: Joseph H. Call -- Co. A of the 135th Illinois Regulars (612 bytes) >> << Message: RE: Joseph H. Call -- Co. A of the 135th Illinois Regulars (1.21 KB) >>

THe war started 1861,South Carolina seceded Dec 20.1860. LINCOLN did not free the Slaves till JAN,01,1863.He didn't even free the slaves in the White House till the night before. Before that it was called LINCOLN'S War.Take a good look at history . JIM

> The worst tragidy of all from the Civilwar. That in 20 years it would not > have had to be fought, the Tractor would would have put Slavery out of > buisness,But Southern Historians know the war was not fought over slavery > anyway . > JIM > >

Somewhere I read that part of the tragedy of the CW was that it occurred right at the end of the Dark Ages of Medicine. Still, the casualty rates in the CW were statically less than the Crimean War or the Mexican War. Progress was being made! And some of the CW doctors would be leaders in the medical revolution! Take care, Bob Judy and Bob Huddleston 10643 Sperry Street Northglenn, CO 80234-3612 303.451.6276 Adco@FilmsToSee.Com -----Original Message----- From: Dick [mailto:dick214@therapist.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:40 PM To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Joseph H. Call -- Co. A of the 135th Illinois Regulars Robbie, In the American Civil War medicine had not caught up with the science of human destruction. Nineteenth century armament was accompanied on the battlefield by eighteenth century medicine. More combatants died of disease and infection than were lost as an immediate result of battle. Even many of those who died as a result of battle wounds were done to death by medical blundering and mismanagement. Dick Hudson ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Robbie, In the American Civil War medicine had not caught up with the science of human destruction. Nineteenth century armament was accompanied on the battlefield by eighteenth century medicine. More combatants died of disease and infection than were lost as an immediate result of battle. Even many of those who died as a result of battle wounds were done to death by medical blundering and mismanagement. Dick Hudson

I would try Jefferson Barracks. Robbie Bronder wrote: > Good Morning List members, > > I received the pension file of my relative Joseph H. Call who enlisted in > Champaign County, IL in May of 1864 with the 135th Company A. He died of > peritonitis while "in the line of duty" at a hospital in St. Louis, MO on > August 25, 1864. > > I was wondering if any one could help me determine where he is buried? I > don't think he is in the family plot at Mt. Hope Cemetery in Urbana. Also, > how common was it for soldiers to die of diseases, rather than killed in > action? > > Thanks in advance for any info., > > Robbie (Call) Bronder > Reno, Nevada > jbronder@prodigy.net > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

Craig, You may wish to consult a book set called THE UNION ARMY, 1861-1865: Organization and Operations, by Frank J. Welcher (Indiana University Press, 1989). The second volume covers the Western Theater, which will include Kennesaw Mountain and the Atlanta Campaign. The book has a nice recounting of each covered battle and campaign with an order of battle showing which regiments were attached to which brigades, divisions, and corps. It is an outstanding reference work. Tom Pearson -----Original Message----- From: IL-CIVIL-WAR-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:IL-CIVIL-WAR-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:00 PM To: IL-CIVIL-WAR-D@rootsweb.com Subject: IL-CIVIL-WAR-D Digest V01 #3 << Message: ATT00016.eml (402 bytes) >> << Message: Request For The 107TH ILL INF (608 bytes) >>

Good Morning List members, I received the pension file of my relative Joseph H. Call who enlisted in Champaign County, IL in May of 1864 with the 135th Company A. He died of peritonitis while "in the line of duty" at a hospital in St. Louis, MO on August 25, 1864. I was wondering if any one could help me determine where he is buried? I don't think he is in the family plot at Mt. Hope Cemetery in Urbana. Also, how common was it for soldiers to die of diseases, rather than killed in action? Thanks in advance for any info., Robbie (Call) Bronder Reno, Nevada jbronder@prodigy.net