Hello This is my Metcalf family that I am researching... George Metcalf & Tabiatha Ayres, Metcalf married and had a son Jacob Metcalf born 6-20-1826 in Wayne Co., Ohio I don't know if they had other children and I don't know when George was born or his parents..Tabiatha's parents were given to me as John Ayres and Patsy Reavis.. I don't know Tabiatha's birth or dead..she did have a brother William Ayres and I've been told he came to IL maybe around the time Jacob did...not sure... Jacob at about age 12 moved to Indiana and later married Mary Watson in 1851. Jacob & Mary had John born about 1852, Pheobe born about 1856, Manerva born about 1858, James born about a1861, George born about 1863, Hannah or Anna born about 1868...all the children were born in Indiana and then Jacob, Mary and their children moved to IL...later Mary died about 1876 and Jacob marries Sarah Jackson and she died about 1891, Jacob marries a third time to Rachel Maggie Hall,Casey on 5-13-1896 in Vandalia, IL. Jacob died in 1910 in Vandalia, IL.. Any help on these families would be great.. Thank you.. Blondee

Good morning fellow listers! I have a relative that is giving me fits! He is very illusive. William DUPUY is his name and first sighting of him is his marriage to Milly JONES ELAM in McDonough Co IL 22 Aug. 1858. According to the 1870 McDonough Co,IL census he was born in KY abt 1806. He and Milly had several children one of which is my great g-pa Francis W. (Frank) DUPUY who was born in Brown Co.,IL in 1865. William was someplace during the years before his marriage. Since he was in his 50's when he married Milly I suspect he was married before. If anyone has additional info on this illusive character I would sure appreciate hearing from them. Thanks for listening! Sandy Moshier goodpup@aol.com

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Another good translation site is http://www.freetranslation.com They also have a fee service for word for word translation by trained translators if you have a need for "exact" translations. Mike Dickson "Peg Hetlage, BenefitWorks, Inc." wrote: > > For those doing Pre-Illinois on-line research in German, French, Portuguese, > Italian or Spanish this translation device (FREE!) is amazing. You can > either cut and paste text into a box for transation, or you can enter a URL > and it will translate the entire site. > > My experience has been using it for German translation, and it's not > perfect, but close enough to tell me if I'm looking at a site for churches > or the local soccer team! > > http://babelfish.altavista.com/ > > Peg Hetlage > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > Search USGenWeb including the archives, census' which are done, etc.: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm > Surname Helper Search Engine: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html

For those doing Pre-Illinois on-line research in German, French, Portuguese, Italian or Spanish this translation device (FREE!) is amazing. You can either cut and paste text into a box for transation, or you can enter a URL and it will translate the entire site. My experience has been using it for German translation, and it's not perfect, but close enough to tell me if I'm looking at a site for churches or the local soccer team! http://babelfish.altavista.com/ Peg Hetlage

TCGHS Announcements - http://www.rootsweb.com/~iltcghs Greetings! Have just posted the following updates to the Tazewell County Genealogical & Historical Society website: February Meeting - 7 p.m. February 8 - Society Library Mr. Mel Stanford of the Illinois Department of Transportation will speak on the "Roads of Illinois". Mr Stanford is a Mackinaw resident. Calendar of Events I've updated our event calendar with our monthly meeting topics through August. Photos of the Month For February, we show additional photos of the damage caused by the March 30, 1938 tornado which hit South Pekin. Three city blocks were leveled and 250 homes were damaged or destroyed. This month we display three photos of the damage done to the Chicago & Northwestern railroad yards at South Pekin. If you'd like to learn more about the 1938 tornado and other history of South Pekin, don't miss our Whirlwind History of South Pekin dinner and drama on March 25th! Tickets will be available soon! That's it for now! Thanks, Mike Dickson TCGHS Webmaster

Sure, Clay, I can't remember when the function came out .... but if you have version 7 of FTM ... then follow these steps with your cursor: Click on FILE Scroll down to PREFERENCES In the pop up menu, scroll down to and click on PRIVATIZE. Your database will convert what it finds on living people to a private or blanked out screen .... only the names will show ... no other information ... there is a warning that privatize does not work for note fields so practice and study it a few times .... I work this way all the time ... works great for me .... Bryan slyfox38@juno.com wrote: > > On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 12:22:54 -0500 Cheryl Rothwell > <clrothwell@mindspring.com> writes: > > Posting information on living people is against the rules. > > > > I agree 100% with Cheryl's comments. Of course for most of us the cat > has been out of the bag for years thanks to banks, credit bureaus, our > own state and local governmental agencies, etc. However, we can police > ourselves to preclude our being guilty of violating other people's right > to privacy. > > I picked up the following sites from another mail list. They may be of > interest or use to others. > > a. Freeware utility to clean GEDCOM files of data on living persons. > Download at: http://www.raynorshyn.com/gedclean/ > > b. Internet privacy issues discussed: > http://www.onlinegenealogy.com/aug96/aug96.html > > In my own case, I don't send GEDCOM files as I haven't figured out how to > get Family Tree Maker to make data private. Does anyone know if FTM can > be set to bypass data on living persons? I've been creating text files > and then going through them and editing out anything pertaining to living > persons using 1910 or personal knowledge of the person's status as the > cutoff date for births. I do have an aunt and a great aunt who are 95 & > 96 respectively. > > Clay > > Researching: COWGILL, RITCHIE, EPPS, HARRISON, LOAR, ASHLEY, HARTSOG, > CLAIBORNE, FLETCHER > > > > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Cheryl Rothwell, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto: clrothwell@mindspring.com -- Bryan W. Lane My Personal Page: http://www.gate.net/~bwl/ Member: General Society of Mayflower Descendants (Edward FULLER) http://www.mayflower.org/ Member: The Fuller Society http://redrock.sedona.net/fullersociety/ Fulton County ILGenWeb Coordinator: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilfulton/ Mason County ILGenWeb Coordinator: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmason/ Mason Co., IL mailing list: ILMason-L-request@rootsweb.com POLLITT Surname Resource Coordinator: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/p/o/POLLITT/ POLLITT mailing list: POLLITT-L-request@rootsweb.com Let's Link ... You Scratch my Link and I'll Scratch Yours!

Dear Clay: It may depend on which version of FTM that you are using, but I have version 7 and the option to privatize information is built in. If you go to the File menu, under Preferences, one of the options is Privatize. This will privatize all information on living individuals. Here's the FTM info on Privatization of files: Family Tree Maker now allows you to assure the privacy of others (as well as your own) by designating certain facts as private, which prevents this information from being imported/exported, printed, copied, or published on the Internet. To use the privatization feature: 1. From the File menu, select Preferences, then Privatize (ALT, F, F, V). Family Tree Maker displays the Privatize information dialog box. 2. Select the Privatize check box if you want Family Tree Maker to hide the Birth, Death, Marriage, More About Facts, Medical, and Notes information for living relatives. 3. Click OK. Family Tree Maker displays a progress meter while it privatizes your Family File. It hides all data fields for living individuals and marks them with the word "private." Only relationships between living individuals will be retained. As an added indication that you have selected to display privatized text, Family Tree Maker also changes the background color of the Family Page to green. Once selected as a preference, privatized text is enforced whenever you copy/export, print, or publish your Family File. Note: When privatized, your file will become "read-only." This means you cannot modify the file in any way until you leave this mode. You can deselect the Privatized mode at any time in the original Family File by returning to the Preferences dialog box. Family Tree Maker Version 7.0 for Windows 95 Scott Burow County Coordinator Richland County, IL USGenWeb > > In my own case, I don't send GEDCOM files as I haven't figured out how to > get Family Tree Maker to make data private. Does anyone know if FTM can > be set to bypass data on living persons? I've been creating text files > and then going through them and editing out anything pertaining to living > persons using 1910 or personal knowledge of the person's status as the > cutoff date for births. I do have an aunt and a great aunt who are 95 & > 96 respectively. > > Clay >

On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 12:22:54 -0500 Cheryl Rothwell <clrothwell@mindspring.com> writes: > Posting information on living people is against the rules. > I agree 100% with Cheryl's comments. Of course for most of us the cat has been out of the bag for years thanks to banks, credit bureaus, our own state and local governmental agencies, etc. However, we can police ourselves to preclude our being guilty of violating other people's right to privacy. I picked up the following sites from another mail list. They may be of interest or use to others. a. Freeware utility to clean GEDCOM files of data on living persons. Download at: http://www.raynorshyn.com/gedclean/ b. Internet privacy issues discussed: http://www.onlinegenealogy.com/aug96/aug96.html In my own case, I don't send GEDCOM files as I haven't figured out how to get Family Tree Maker to make data private. Does anyone know if FTM can be set to bypass data on living persons? I've been creating text files and then going through them and editing out anything pertaining to living persons using 1910 or personal knowledge of the person's status as the cutoff date for births. I do have an aunt and a great aunt who are 95 & 96 respectively. Clay Researching: COWGILL, RITCHIE, EPPS, HARRISON, LOAR, ASHLEY, HARTSOG, CLAIBORNE, FLETCHER

To All List members: FYI, If I thought the previous thread on this topic was thought provoking .... perhaps I should have waited to here from Ken and Dainne .... please read ... this to me is far more outrageous then worrying about whether a living name was posted on a website ... No responses are really needed ... but this really make you wonder about where people heads are at ... I we though we had privacy issues on the web ... hah ... Ken & Dianne wrote: > > Byran, > I have read the posting that you posted to Fulton disc. group this > evening, and thought that I would share a little more food for thought > for you. > I live in TX. and my governor is now running for president. > Cherl spoke of our internet info. getting into the hands of the wrong > type of people who might commit crimes against us. > We all learned this last year that all our drivers license > infomation that is updated each time you have to renew it, or you should > change residences, is done by our lovely state penal institution > inmates! In order to save money, the state govt. decided to have the > convicts do all the drivers license material. So the way I figure it, > the criminals do not need to look on genealogy websites to get info. on > anyone, they just show up for work and get more than is posted to a > website! And beleive me, that's scary and real food for thought. > Ken Bryan Wrote: Do you mind if I post this to other lists .... Ken & Dianne wrote: > > It is okay by us, if you send it to the list. We just did not want to > scare everyone by the reality of it. We do not know just how long the > state has had inmates processing the drivers license, but we have heard > that they also do lots of other paperwork, etc. for the state, which has > names, addresses, and lots of other personal info. on it. > You know that the convicts can sell this info. or give it away or use it > themselves to "steal identities" and it looks like our govt. could care > less what happens to any of us. So we do not know if this practice came > into being after G. Bush was gov. or before he became our gov., but as > far as we know, it is still being done. (probably in other states too). > Ken & Dianne Thank you for your comments, Ken & Dianne and permission to forward ... I find this very interesting .... and scarier then the other discussion!!! Bryan -- Bryan W. Lane My Personal Page: http://www.gate.net/~bwl/ Member: General Society of Mayflower Descendants (Edward FULLER) http://www.mayflower.org/ Member: The Fuller Society http://redrock.sedona.net/fullersociety/ Fulton County ILGenWeb Coordinator: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilfulton/ Mason County ILGenWeb Coordinator: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmason/ Mason Co., IL mailing list: ILMason-L-request@rootsweb.com POLLITT Surname Resource Coordinator: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/p/o/POLLITT/ POLLITT mailing list: POLLITT-L-request@rootsweb.com Let's Link ... You Scratch my Link and I'll Scratch Yours!

I very much appreciate Cheryl's message about privacy and living people. I am often amazed that people include entire living families down to relatively young children in what they share with publicly accessible lists or genealogical publications. My siblings don't really share my interest in genealogy, so why should I abuse their privacy and share their names, etc. with a wide range of people. I know there are ways to find this information if someone wanted, but I am not handing it over on a silver platter. Besides, it is the ancestors of ancestors of ancestors, etc. for whom I search. I've heard there will be a sign outside the pearly gates that says, "We know who the parents are." Meanwhile, I am searching for the parents (and old relatives) of: ALEXANDER, DUNCAN, HADDEN, JOLLIFF, LACKEY, MITCHELL, SHELTON, TAYLOR, and LOTS more. Dot

I DO believe that we should insist these companies to stop using our mother's maiden name for passwords regardless of the other issues. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

I don't and haven't used for a number of years, my mother's maiden name for passwords on anything including bank cards etc. My mother was a modern woman back in the 1930 and 40's and kept her maiden name until she left the work force for a few years. When she returned, she simply hyphenated it with the marriage name. Anyway, my mother's maiden name has always been available to any one. I elected to choice a different word because I have been doing genealogy 20+ years and knew that information was available to someone who wanted it. You can call your credit card companies/banks etc and change that password to one of your choosing. If they ask explain why, tell them that the information is readily available since you do genealogy. If enough people do this, then credit card companies will be able to offer alternatives. They did this because it was easy for the person to remember. But that was also before the days that woman began to keep their maiden names for business reasons and the explosion of genealogy. Joan Lund j-lund@uiuc.edu

Cheryl, while your message may have been a bit harsh, I know what you are saying is probably very true. I watched something on TV last night regarding privacy on the Internet. Perhaps not specifically going into genealogy, but it sure does make sense that this would be one source crooks could/would use to glean info for their deeds. Thank you very much for bringing it to my attention. Terry Mercer, Fayette and Massac Counties Coordinator Cheryl Rothwell wrote: > Posting information on living people is against the rules. Queries seeking > such information are rejected by the USGenWeb Project. Others online are > not so delicate. Intelligent people, even unintelligent but decent people, > do not post information about living people. Most genealogy programs allow > the user to privatize information about living people but, unfortunately, > some don't use that feature. Such thoughtless and inconsiderate behavior > jeopardizes people's security. Do you know how many banks use your mother's > maiden name as your password? With information easily gleaned from these > online GEDCOM collectors, a criminal can steal from you. > > That is just the tip of the iceberg. Since there is a growing number of > people who are careless with such things as verification of their > information other damages may occur. Some seem bent on uploading as much as > they can to get their name online without regard for privacy or accuracy. > > I have brought this up before. That may be why I have been contacted by a > group which is talking of suing people who do this and, of course, the > services [Ancestry.com, FTM, etc] who post such uploads. They have done > their homework and can detail out who has posted what about you, in this > case, me. If these amateurs can do it think what criminals can do! > > This is very troubling. While I am extremely irritated at the inconsiderate > behavoir of the posters involved and the GEDCOM collectors I also realize > that such litigation could mean the end of genealogy online. I am not > convinced there is any loss in getting rid of user submitted gedcoms since > the ones I have checked are full of errors but I certainly wish to keep old > records available, online and free for all. > > When you talk to genealogists of any ilk please encourage them not to post > information on living people anywhere. > Cheryl Rothwell > clrothwell@mindspring.com > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Cheryl Rothwell, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto: clrothwell@mindspring.com

Posting information on living people is against the rules. Queries seeking such information are rejected by the USGenWeb Project. Others online are not so delicate. Intelligent people, even unintelligent but decent people, do not post information about living people. Most genealogy programs allow the user to privatize information about living people but, unfortunately, some don't use that feature. Such thoughtless and inconsiderate behavior jeopardizes people's security. Do you know how many banks use your mother's maiden name as your password? With information easily gleaned from these online GEDCOM collectors, a criminal can steal from you. That is just the tip of the iceberg. Since there is a growing number of people who are careless with such things as verification of their information other damages may occur. Some seem bent on uploading as much as they can to get their name online without regard for privacy or accuracy. I have brought this up before. That may be why I have been contacted by a group which is talking of suing people who do this and, of course, the services [Ancestry.com, FTM, etc] who post such uploads. They have done their homework and can detail out who has posted what about you, in this case, me. If these amateurs can do it think what criminals can do! This is very troubling. While I am extremely irritated at the inconsiderate behavoir of the posters involved and the GEDCOM collectors I also realize that such litigation could mean the end of genealogy online. I am not convinced there is any loss in getting rid of user submitted gedcoms since the ones I have checked are full of errors but I certainly wish to keep old records available, online and free for all. When you talk to genealogists of any ilk please encourage them not to post information on living people anywhere. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

The new IL-WESTERN maillist is ready to roll! Anyone with a genealogical interest in the Western Regional Counties in IL, Adams, Brown, Calhoun, Fulton, Greene, Hancock, Henderson, Henry, Jersey, Knox, Macoupin, McDonough, Madison, Mercer, Morgan, Pike, Rock Island, St. Clair, Schuyler, Scott, and Warren, is welcome to subscribe at no cost to the mail list. Questions and answers regarding research in the counties, places to look for information, and queries are all welcome. However, one cannot post to the mail list without being a subscriber. To subscribe to the mail list, send an e-mail message with the word "subscribe" (without the quotation marks) as the only text in the body of the message to IL-WESTERN-L-request@rootsweb.com. If you wish to subscribe in digest mode, in which mail will be packed together in bundles, send the same subscribe message to IL-WESTERN-D-request@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the list, send it to IL-WESTERN-L@rootsweb.com. Cheryl Rothwell Central Illinois Regional Coordinator

I'm researching these names in Fayette, Effingham, & Marion Cos. there may be other counties I'm not aware of with these ancestors. Marie

Hi folks: I am looking for WEST's in the area 1860-80. Marion County: Pleasant WEST b TN, m Sarah LAYSON/LASON 1859. Martha J. WEST b TN, m Harrison COLCLASURE 1873. Fayette County: James A. WEST b TN, m 1)Crissa? McKINNEY m 2) Emily/Emma NEELY James & Emily on 1870 Fayette Census. Mary Elizabeth WEST b TN, m Wm. J. BESS 1871. ------- 3 of the above families were in Howell Co. MO by 1880. I think there may be more of this WEST family from TN in the surrounding area after 1860. Two large WEST families left TN abt 1860 and the above are the only ones I have found. Any cousins? Dennis West in Knoxville, TN

Hello, fellow listers. I'm trying to find the parentage of two BOOTH orphan boys who were living with FATHEREE families in Wayne County in 1870. One of the boys (I believe) later married AMANDA FATHEREE who might have earlier married a PHILLIPS. One boy is ALEXANDER S. BOOTH b. Ohio abt 1861, listed as age 9 in 1870 census of the household of WILLIAM FATHEREE, Wayne County, Illinois. The other boy is JOSEPH J. BOOTH b. Ohio abt 1857, listed as age 9 in 1870 census of the household of BENJAMIN FATHEREE, Wayne County, Illinois. One of Benjamin's children was AMANDA FATHEREE, then age 7. Benjamin Fatheree is probably William Fatheree's uncle. SELKIRK "KURT" BOOTH married Feb 11, 1888 in Marion County, MRS. AMANDA PHILLIPS. I suspect that SELKIRK is one of those two Booth orphan boys and that MRS. AMANDA PHILLIIPS is AMANDA FATHEREE. I have personal knowledge that a Selkirk Booth and Amanda Fatheree were married and were parents of Leonard Booth. Would appreciate any related information. Thanks, Sid

Does anyone know whether or not the court house at Sterling Ill. burned sometime after 1863 ? nbilash@seark.net