Mavis, you did not say if they are alive. If deceased, you can check the Social Security Records. Ella in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: Mavis Griffiths <mavisgg@cwcom.net> To: <IL-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: [IL-CENTRAL] Canale family Trying to trace members of the Canale family in Taylorville or Chicago who emigrated from Edinburgh, Scotland around 1957/58. Can anyone help? My daughter is married to Robert Canale in Edinburgh and it was his father who emigrated to the USA. I am doing a family tree. Many thanks. Mavis Griffiths Email: mavisgg@cwcom.net ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== Your generous donations to RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Trying to trace members of the Canale family in Taylorville or Chicago who emigrated from Edinburgh, Scotland around 1957/58.� Can anyone help?� My daughter is married to Robert Canale in Edinburgh and it was his father who emigrated to the USA.� I am doing a family tree. Many thanks. Mavis Griffiths Email:� mavisgg@cwcom.net

Seeking info. on a William F. Looking (Lookingbill) who served in Co. A, 3 Ill. Reg't. Any info. would be appreciated. Thank you. Leon L.

Kathy Hudson, who is a CC for several counties within The USGenWeb Project, has put up a Genealogical Events site so that people can be informed of where and when such events are taking place. http://www.genealogyshoppe.com/events.html Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com

If anyone knows how to contact the Genealogical Society of Southern Illinois, via e-mail, would you please let me know, OFF the list. Thanks, Dot bellmer@narrows.com

I have a picture of an Ethel Hitchell or Hilchell dated 9 30 1910. It is from Atlanta, Illinois (Logan Co). Her age is given as 15. I would be glad so return this to the proper family for the cost of mailing. Cheri Salz \\|||// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo----- The Salz Clan salzaeck@mtco.com ----------------Oooo.- .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_)

---------- From: Richard Beall <rbeall@etown.net> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 07:49:14 -0500 To: <ILMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: TIBBETTS Hello List, Looking for anyone with info/connections to the following family, whose youngest child born either Wenona, Marshall Co. or Wenonah, Montgomery Co. in 1894/1895. George Albert TIBBETTS b. abt. 1856 m. Sarah BARTEL m.1881 location: ? known children: Henry Grover TIBBETTS b. 1885/1886 location: ? Helen Evanine TIBBETTS b. 1894/1895 location: Wenona, Marshall Co. or Wenonah, Montgomery Co., Illinois By 1906 this family had moved to Saskatchewan, Canada as both father and son received land grants there. Sometime after 1917(probably closer to 1940) either Sarah or George, or both, moved back to the US, it is believed. Both were buried in Saskatchewan. George may have had a brother who went by the name of Hank (Henry??). Hank also ended up in Saskatchewan at some point. Any information or suggestions in how to narrow down which place Helen was born would be appreciated. Rheba Ontario, Canada

Does anyone on this list know whether or not the Brown county courthouse burned sometime after 1863 ? My ggrandfather and grandmother were married at Mt. Sterling. I would like to have a copy of the license if it would be available. nbilash@seark.net

I used the Illinois Marriage Index to find my gggrandfather Tobias Bender. I was not aware that he was married twice before I used this index. I also discovered that someone else was interested in the Marriage of Tobias Bender to Elizabeth St. Clair (Sinclair) my gggrandmother, but I have not received a response to my communications although I do not receive any error messages so the messages must be getting through. If you are interested in Tobias Bender and or Elizabeth St. Clair (Sinclair) I would appreciate hearing from you. They lived in Fulton, County, Illinois and were married in the 1850s. Thanks, Jack Bender Halstead, KS galaxy2010@aol.com

Bill, The Illinois Marriage Index has been a wonderful tool for me. However, one of my ancestors is listed as Hoffie instead of Hobbie. I found this marriage by entering the bride's name. Perhaps entering different spellings might help. Good luck. Carol

You have to keep in mind that several counties have had courthouse fires or other disasters which PERMANENTLY eliminated certain records. If the records were burnt the county can't give them to the state for the marriage record index. One of those courthouses that burnt was Logan. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com also a Scroggin descendant

Bill, I have seen this happen before, where the marriage index does not include a license that actually was issued. About the only way to know for sure is to go, or have someone go for you, to the County Clerk's office and ask for permission to go through the actual marriage license files for the time period you are concerned with looking for the actual license. The Clerk may be reluctant to let you do this, as those records, especially that old, are quite fragile. I you can't do it yourself, you might contact one of the local society members who knows the Clerk well. The Clerk might let someone they know & trust do the looking for you. The other possibility is that the marriage occurred, but that the license was never returned to the courthouse. It that's the case, there is no record of it and you'll have to find another way to confirm the marriage, such as probate records or grantor deeds for land they may have owned & sold. Good Luck! Dick Cazier ----- Original Message ----- From: <ITCSCROG@aol.com> To: <IL-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 6:22 PM Subject: [IL-CENTRAL] James Mileham and Nancy Ann Ridgeway > Does anybody have any information out there regarding the marriage of James > Mileham and Nancy Ann Ridgeway in Mt. Pulaski on 15 Feb 1848. I have checked > a couple of times with the Logan County Clerk in trying to find a copy of > their marriage license with no success. Also, the Illinois Marriage Index > does not list this marriage. > Anybody have any ideas where to next proceed? > > Thanks for your help. > > Bill Scroggin > Chesterfield, Mo. > > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Cheryl Rothwell, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto: clrothwell@mindspring.com >

Bill, I wouldn't rely on the IL statewide marriage index. I have checked for a number of my ancestors with no success, when I found them in county indexes. The state-wide is a work in progress & there are many counties that have not been entered yet. I also suspect that in the counties that have been entered, the entries are not complete. Suggest you check with each suspect county's genealogical society. Most of them have extracted & published the local county marriage index. If you need addresses, go to the USGENWEB project page, then to the state, then to the appropriate county page. Most of them have the address of the local society. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: <ITCSCROG@aol.com> To: <IL-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 6:28 PM Subject: [IL-CENTRAL] Thomas Jefferson Scroggin > Does anybody have any information out there regarding the first marriage of > Thomas Jefferson Scroggin to a Mary (?) approximately 1859, but not sure. I > have checked the Illinois Marriage Index but it does not list this marriage. > I'm reasonably sure that he married his first wife in Sangamon or Logan > County. Thomas was known as Jefferson and is on the 1850 Logan County census > living with Leonard K. Scroggin family, and in 1860 he is listed with John > England family. So, perhaps he married a Mary England? > Does this ring a bell with anyone? > > Thanks for your help. > > Bill Scroggin > Chesterfield, Mo. > > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > This mailing list covers the counties of Bond, Cass, Christian, Clinton, DeWitt, Fayette, Logan, Macon, Marion, Marshall, Mason, McLean, Menard, Montgomery, Peoria, Sangamon, Stark, Tazewell, Washington and Woodford in Illinois. >

Does anybody have any information out there regarding the first marriage of Thomas Jefferson Scroggin to a Mary (?) approximately 1859, but not sure. I have checked the Illinois Marriage Index but it does not list this marriage. I'm reasonably sure that he married his first wife in Sangamon or Logan County. Thomas was known as Jefferson and is on the 1850 Logan County census living with Leonard K. Scroggin family, and in 1860 he is listed with John England family. So, perhaps he married a Mary England? Does this ring a bell with anyone? Thanks for your help. Bill Scroggin Chesterfield, Mo.

Does anybody have any information out there regarding the marriage of James Mileham and Nancy Ann Ridgeway in Mt. Pulaski on 15 Feb 1848. I have checked a couple of times with the Logan County Clerk in trying to find a copy of their marriage license with no success. Also, the Illinois Marriage Index does not list this marriage. Anybody have any ideas where to next proceed? Thanks for your help. Bill Scroggin Chesterfield, Mo.

Hi, I don't have John's name in my database & Underwood is a rather common surname. However, there was a large population of Underwood's in Moultrie Co, IL starting in the 1850's. You might want to look there. Dick Cazier ----- Original Message ----- From: Peg Hetlage, BenefitWorks, Inc. <phetlage@benefitworks.com> To: <IL-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 12:06 PM Subject: [IL-CENTRAL] Family of John UNDERWOOD > I'm a descendent of James Edward Underwood, born and raised in Macon Co. IL > I am having a dickens of a time finding any info on his father, John > Underwood, before he came to Macon County. I have quite a bit on his wife, > Lucy, and would certainly be glad to share that. > > Are there any other relatives from this Underwood family line that would > like to share info? Sorry for the long report below, but it seemed the > easiest way to get the names and relationships shared. > > Thanks! > > Peg Hetlage, Dublin, CA > -------------------------------------- > > > Subject: John UNDERWOOD > Birth: __ Jul 1831Garrett, KY. > Marriage: 31 Oct 1858Macon, IL. > Death: 23 Sep 1907Long Creek, Macon, IL. > Burial: 23 Sep 1907Point Pleasant Cemetery, Long Creek, > Macon, Illinois. > Father: (--?--) UNKNOWN > Mother: (--?--) NICHOLSON > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > Spouse: Lucy AYRES > Name-Marr: UNDERWOOD > Birth: 02 Apr 1838Owen Co., Kentucky. > Death: 06 Mar 1917Lintner, Piatt Co., Illinois. > Burial: 07 Mar 1917Point Pleasant Cemetery, Long Creek, > Macon Co., Illinois. > Father: Robert Sale AYRES (1805-1866) > Mother: Catherine BROCK (1810-1849) > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > Eight Children > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > M William A. UNDERWOOD > Birth: 04 Jan 1861Illinois. > Marriage: 05 Mar 1885Arabelle LYONS (1861-1937); Macon Co, > IL. > Daughter: __ Jul 1886Dola E. UNDERWOOD; Macon CO, IL. > Son: cir __ ___ 1894Infant UNDERWOOD > Death: 16 Jan 1931 > Burial: 17 Jan 1931Point Pleasant Cemetery, Long Creek > Twp, Macon, IL. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > M Isaac S. UNDERWOOD > Birth: __ Dec 1862Illinois. > Marriage: 07 Feb 1892Myra E. GABBERT (1863-1943); Macon Co, > Illinois. > Daughter: __ May 1893Dessie UNDERWOOD; Illinois. > Death: __ ___ 1913 > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > M James Edward UNDERWOOD > Name-Nick: Ed > Birth: 16 Jul 1865Sangamon, Illinois. > Marriage: 17 Aug 1892Clara May BULLARD (1871-1954); > Warrensburg, Macon, > Illinois. > Daughter: 19 Apr 1894Hazel M. UNDERWOOD > Son: 10 Nov 1900Gerald Arthur UNDERWOOD; La Place, > Piatt, IL. > Death: __ Mar 1940Decatur, Macon, IL. > Burial: __ Mar 1940Illini Cemetery, Warrensburg, Macon, > IL. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > F Ida UNDERWOOD > Name-Marr: JOLLEY > Birth: 01 Aug 1868 > Marriage: cir __ ___ 1889Charles E. JOLLEY > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > F Elizabeth UNDERWOOD > Name-Marr: PRATHER > Birth: cir __ ___ 1871 > Marriage: 10 Mar 1892John PRATHER > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > M David UNDERWOOD > Birth: __ Jul 1877 > Marriage: __ ___ ____Maud DISNEY > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > F Luella UNDERWOOD > Birth: __ Jun 1880 > Marriage: __ ___ ____Arthur A. RUCKER > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > F Cora Alice UNDERWOOD > Birth: 14 Mar 1883Macon Cty, IL. > Marriage: 12 Oct 1904William Arther FULK (1882-1959); Long > Creek, Macon Cty, IL. > Daughter: 12 Sep 1905Ruby Evelyn FULK > Son: 27 Jun 1907Kenneth Wayne FULK > Death: 18 Jul 1928Pueblo, Pueblo, CO. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > Search USGenWeb including the archives, census' which are done, etc.: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm > Surname Helper Search Engine: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html >

I'm a descendent of James Edward Underwood, born and raised in Macon Co. IL I am having a dickens of a time finding any info on his father, John Underwood, before he came to Macon County. I have quite a bit on his wife, Lucy, and would certainly be glad to share that. Are there any other relatives from this Underwood family line that would like to share info? Sorry for the long report below, but it seemed the easiest way to get the names and relationships shared. Thanks! Peg Hetlage, Dublin, CA - ------------------------------------ Subject: John UNDERWOOD Birth: __ Jul 1831Garrett, KY. Marriage: 31 Oct 1858Macon, IL. Death: 23 Sep 1907Long Creek, Macon, IL. Burial: 23 Sep 1907Point Pleasant Cemetery, Long Creek, Macon, Illinois. Father: (--?--) UNKNOWN Mother: (--?--) NICHOLSON __________________________________________________________________________ Spouse: Lucy AYRES Name-Marr: UNDERWOOD Birth: 02 Apr 1838Owen Co., Kentucky. Death: 06 Mar 1917Lintner, Piatt Co., Illinois. Burial: 07 Mar 1917Point Pleasant Cemetery, Long Creek, Macon Co., Illinois. Father: Robert Sale AYRES (1805-1866) Mother: Catherine BROCK (1810-1849) __________________________________________________________________________ Eight Children __________________________________________________________________________ M William A. UNDERWOOD Birth: 04 Jan 1861Illinois. Marriage: 05 Mar 1885Arabelle LYONS (1861-1937); Macon Co, IL. Daughter: __ Jul 1886Dola E. UNDERWOOD; Macon CO, IL. Son: cir __ ___ 1894Infant UNDERWOOD Death: 16 Jan 1931 Burial: 17 Jan 1931Point Pleasant Cemetery, Long Creek Twp, Macon, IL. __________________________________________________________________________ M Isaac S. UNDERWOOD Birth: __ Dec 1862Illinois. Marriage: 07 Feb 1892Myra E. GABBERT (1863-1943); Macon Co, Illinois. Daughter: __ May 1893Dessie UNDERWOOD; Illinois. Death: __ ___ 1913 __________________________________________________________________________ M James Edward UNDERWOOD Name-Nick: Ed Birth: 16 Jul 1865Sangamon, Illinois. Marriage: 17 Aug 1892Clara May BULLARD (1871-1954); Warrensburg, Macon, Illinois. Daughter: 19 Apr 1894Hazel M. UNDERWOOD Son: 10 Nov 1900Gerald Arthur UNDERWOOD; La Place, Piatt, IL. Death: __ Mar 1940Decatur, Macon, IL. Burial: __ Mar 1940Illini Cemetery, Warrensburg, Macon, IL. __________________________________________________________________________ F Ida UNDERWOOD Name-Marr: JOLLEY Birth: 01 Aug 1868 Marriage: cir __ ___ 1889Charles E. JOLLEY __________________________________________________________________________ F Elizabeth UNDERWOOD Name-Marr: PRATHER Birth: cir __ ___ 1871 Marriage: 10 Mar 1892John PRATHER __________________________________________________________________________ M David UNDERWOOD Birth: __ Jul 1877 Marriage: __ ___ ____Maud DISNEY __________________________________________________________________________ F Luella UNDERWOOD Birth: __ Jun 1880 Marriage: __ ___ ____Arthur A. RUCKER __________________________________________________________________________ F Cora Alice UNDERWOOD Birth: 14 Mar 1883Macon Cty, IL. Marriage: 12 Oct 1904William Arther FULK (1882-1959); Long Creek, Macon Cty, IL. Daughter: 12 Sep 1905Ruby Evelyn FULK Son: 27 Jun 1907Kenneth Wayne FULK Death: 18 Jul 1928Pueblo, Pueblo, CO. __________________________________________________________________________

Jackie, Try also the spelling of Müller or Mueller. Many of the Americanized Millers from this area were spelled this way in Germany. If you purse your lips as if to say u but say the e sound instead you will have pronounced the German ü . You can then understand why the name became Miller. There are web sites and mailing lists for both the Oldenberg area and the nearby Ostfriesen area. Have you checked the Germans to America book series? There are some problems with the list but it is a good secondary source and you might get some leads there. I can't seem to find the address for the list of libraries which have all or some of the books but I know they have them at Peoria. Good luck. Dottie Dorothy Nanninga Sewell dsewell@alaska.net Eagle River, Alaska Ostfriesland Ancestors http://www.alaska.net/~dsewell

I am looking for any information on the MILLER/MOELLER families of Garret, Johann, Charles, Henry, Ann and Margaret. They came to America from Oldenburg, Germany at least by the 1850's. Do not know if their parent came with them. Have not been able to find them yet. They moved to the Logan, Menard, Sangamon and Tazwell counties areas of Illinois. They Americanized their name to "MILLER" at some point. Most of the family resided in the area except, Margaret she married a man with the last name WINNER and moved to California. Charles moved Hedrick, Keokuk County, Iowa. A couple of Johann/John's children would reside in the area. Their names were: Minnie (she married August ZORN),Herman, Edward and Charles. Two step-children from his marriage to Louise (GREBE) LUNING would live in the area also their names Henry LUNING and Fredricka Henrietta "Gettie" LUNING(married a Herman or Harmon YOUNG). Two of his children would move to Iowa. Their names were Gustave and George MILLER and thei lived in the North English, Iowa County, Iowa. Two children stayed in the Wright City, Warren County, Missouri area . Their names were Henry and William. Other names mentioned were AMMERKAMP,RADENMACHER, and HASENKAMP. They were several Henrys in this family. Spelling of names may vary. Any information on these families would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Jackie johnston@tnweb.com

There is an UNDERWOOD list. Have you subscribed to it? Mangoav@aol.com