Has the 1890 Military Census in MARION COUNTY been transcribed & published? Edward J. Wurtz Bellingham, WA Genealogy: WURTZ, MANAHAN, WESHINSKEY, EMPFIELD, HARTMANN, BASTON, MAYBRON, HART, HEAVER, BOWEN, DUVALL, WACK, SUGG, ROBYN, SHUBERT, FRITZ, NEWTON, SUBLETTE, JANSSEN, SIMEON, ZUMBALEN

Another solution similar to this is a pair of magnifying glasses on a headband type arrangement (works very well over other glasses as well). The only place I've seen this is in a catalog by Flax. That's an arts type catalog. I've used these for cross stitch as well as other close projects. I think Flax has a website but I'm not sure of the address. Jean Koehler Scott Burow wrote: > > Hi Cheryl .... > > I don't have this problem .... yet. I think I need some additional life > experience first. :) > > But ..... I've two potential solutions that helped my mom with her > cross-stitching. (another nasty hobby, almost as bad as genealogy!) > > At some stores, Wal-Mart is one that I've seen them at, you can get > MAGNIFYING glasses. Plastic glasses that have magnifying lenses, for about > 5 bucks. They're big enough to fit over your regular eyeglasses if you have > them, and they simply make things larger. > > In some hobby shops and craft shops I've seen magnifying glasses that hang > around your neck on a chain and rest against the chest. There's a large > lens between your head and your lap that magnifies whatever you're looking > at. It's very helpful with cross-stitching, when you have the material in > your lap at hand level, and look down to sew. > > The hanging lens is better than the magnifying glasses if you do work and > watch TV at the same time. Glancing up and seeing Oprah through those mag > lenses is a frightening possibility! > > Good Luck ...... > > Scott Burow > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <LoganCty@mindspring.com> > To: <ILGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 6:25 PM > Subject: [ILGEN-L] Aging Eyes Reading Aging Records > > > How many of you have arms which have grown too short to read that tiny > > print? Reading glasses just don't seem to cut it sometimes, particularly > > with old records and tiny print. I've talked about this with other > > genealogists and the problem is not unique. Unfortunately none of us are > > getting any younger. > > > > I have volunteered to type up Logan County Civil War rosters from the > > Adjutant General's Report for ILGenWeb -- and I can't read them. Others > > complain about problems with microfilm, old newspapers, etc. > > > > Does anyone have some things that work to solve this problem? > > > > Cheryl Rothwell > > LoganCty@mindspring.com > > > > > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > Difference between IL-CENTRAL-L and IL-CENTRAL-D: IL-CENTRAL-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to IL-CENTRAL as a separate email. IL-CENTRAL-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message.

Marie, My father was born in Fayette Co, IL. I was raised there. My ancestry is in the HIMES line link of our homepage. http://members.truepath.com/beverly/index.html Beverly (HIMES) BARGER ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mptmn@aol.com> To: <IL-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [IL-CENTRAL] Aging Eyes Reading Aging Records > Hello, > > Thanks everyone for the helpful tips on reading microfilm/fisch! > > I'm researching: > Pittman, Clow, Smith, Williams, Mabry, Hinds, Bass > they resided mostly in Fayette and Marion COs IL, > > Thanks for an informative list. > Marie > > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Hello, Thanks everyone for the helpful tips on reading microfilm/fisch! I'm researching: Pittman, Clow, Smith, Williams, Mabry, Hinds, Bass they resided mostly in Fayette and Marion COs IL, Thanks for an informative list. Marie

I am going to guess this message was sent from an address other than the one used to subscribe. To prevent spam Rootsweb requires all postings to come from the address you used to subscribe to the list. One of the entries for losses sustained was the Clinton Co. Telephone Co. Bell didn't invent the telephone until 1876 and phones didn't get to small communities until the 1890's, due to technical development. That would lead one to suspect the cyclone would have been a lot closer to 1900 than 1860. If either of the churches don't have records for repairs, you could bet that the Gov't does. I have no knowledge of Theo Pfeifer, so no help there. Hope that helps a little. Regards, Tom Pfeifer tj54@goodnet.com

I think light is critical. For home I use halogen bulbs for close work. I have found those 'true' light lights which are used for brightening up the light deprived northlands in winter also help a lot. I no longer live in the north but I use those lights year round in the kitchen fixtures. I suggested to one person to obtain those little feet you put between the glass top and the table to slightly elevate the magnifying page above the sheet -- she tried it and it works. I am hopeful this will solve my problem with the Civil War rosters. Speaking of the rosters, the ILGenWeb Civil War Project is always looking for folks to type up rosters and other items, donate photos, etc. The main site is at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilcivilw/index.htm The link for volunteer information is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilcivilw/email.html Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com

Cheryl, BLACK Poster Board is the best on the Microfilm reader table to bring out faded or hard to read micro-film. You can also get magnifiying pages to put over reading material. They are the size of your reading paper made of some kind of plastic. I believe I got one at a office supply place. Beverly (HIMES) BARGER LDS FHC Patron Librarian Volunteer in NM

In a message dated 5/25/00 8:34:58 PM Central Daylight Time, medlincar@email.msn.com writes: << Does anyone know anything about a Cyclone in the Carlyle/Breese area between 1860 and 1900? I have a partial article concerning the estimated $150,000 damage, but there is no indication of the date...only that it was a few minutes before 6 on a Friday. Looks like the Catholic Church sustained the most damage at $60,000, then Episcopal Church at $10,000. >> April 28, 1905. The book "A Bridge To The Past" contains pictures. Jerry Blaylock

Our local Family History Center has a folder with a yellow transparency, a light blue one, a pink one and maybe a red one in it - one color might enhance one roll, a different color might enhance a different roll. All of their microfilm readers have adjustments to make the size of the print larger and darker. I have a $5 plastic magnifying glass that has an even more magnifying circle within the glass and it has a battery powered light. Works miracles. And maybe goes thru the metal detector at the court house. And I always try to make sure I have decent light where ever I go to transcribe original records. Ask if it's ok to move lamps around if you need more light. Dorothy -----Original Message----- From: Medlin <medlincar@email.msn.com> To: IL-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com <IL-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, May 25, 2000 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [IL-CENTRAL] Aging Eyes Reading Aging Records Sometimes a piece of yellow paper on a microfilm "table" helps. Also, if you can make a copy on a copier, i.e. newspaper, that can make it easier to read. Then there are magnifying pages, lens and young friends!!!! Hang in there! Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Cheryl Rothwell <LoganCty@mindspring.com> To: <IL-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 6:26 PM Subject: [IL-CENTRAL] Aging Eyes Reading Aging Records > How many of you have arms which have grown too short to read that tiny > print? Reading glasses just don't seem to cut it sometimes, particularly > with old records and tiny print. I've talked about this with other > genealogists and the problem is not unique. Unfortunately none of us are > getting any younger. > > I have volunteered to type up Civil War rosters from the Adjutant General's > Report for ILGenWeb -- and I can't read them. Others complain about problems > with microfilm, old newspapers, etc. > > Does anyone have some things that work to solve this problem? > > Cheryl Rothwell > LoganCty@mindspring.com > > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Cheryl Rothwell, list administrator with questions concerning this list! mailto: LoganCty@mindspring.com

Thanks for the clues, particularly the copy one. Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com

Thanks, I was hoping it was earlier than that!!!! Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jerryblay@aol.com> To: <IL-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [IL-CENTRAL] Cyclone Date? > In a message dated 5/25/00 8:34:58 PM Central Daylight Time, > medlincar@email.msn.com writes: > > << Does anyone know anything about a Cyclone in the Carlyle/Breese area > between 1860 and 1900? I have a partial article concerning the estimated > $150,000 damage, but there is no indication of the date...only that it was a > few minutes before 6 on a Friday. Looks like the Catholic Church sustained > the most damage at $60,000, then Episcopal Church at $10,000. >> > > April 28, 1905. The book "A Bridge To The Past" contains pictures. > > Jerry Blaylock > > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > This mailing list covers the counties of Bond, Cass, Christian, Clinton, DeWitt, Fayette, Logan, Macon, Marion, Marshall, Mason, McLean, Menard, Montgomery, Peoria, Sangamon, Stark, Tazewell, Washington and Woodford in Illinois. >

Catholic Church Property $60,000 Episcopal Church $10,000 Methodist Church $2,000 Carlyle Mill & Grain C. $5,000 C. Muehling $3,000 A. F. Gross $1,500 William Allen $1,000 E. G. Heitmeir $1,200 W. J. Schmidt $1,000 City of Carlyle $1,000 Wightman Building $ 500 Clinton Co., Telephone co. $1,000 Albert Crause Building $500 A. Westermann $500 Carlyle Furniture Co. $200 J. S. Patterson $500 High School Building $500 Court House $500 John Ruf $500 Theo. Pfeifer $700 Mrs. Morrison Breese $700 G. N. Welch $200 Highland Brewing Co., $300 Mrs. Mary E. Schmidt $700 Crause old Mill $300 William and J. D. Kueper $300 Henry Kelling $200 Wm. Cosgrove $400 __Herzog (Freant's place) $500 Wm. Demming $500 Joe Gehrs $ 1,000 Henry Yunker $200 John Schaefer $800 P. M. Gundlack (Belleville) $750 G. E. Yunker $200 Truesdail Hotel $200 Estimated miscellaneous loses, from $5 to $200 $40,350 Total $150,00 Only four damaged buildings insured, total $16,200 I'm interested in the two YUNKERS, and that is why I need the date so badly! Hope this helps someone! Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Sherry Petersen <mato@gorge.net> To: <IL-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [IL-CENTRAL] Cyclone Date? > Yes please post... > > > > Does anyone know anything about a Cyclone in the Carlyle/Breese area between > > 1860 and 1900? I have a partial article concerning the estimated $150,000 > > damage, but there is no indication of the date...only that it was a few > > minutes before 6 on a Friday. Looks like the Catholic Church sustained the > > most damage at $60,000, then Episcopal Church at $10,000. > > > > If anyone is interested I could list all the names of the businesses and > > people who sustained lost. > > > > Thanks for any help with this. > > > > Carolyn Wilburn Medlin > > > > > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > > Search USGenWeb including the archives, census' which are done, etc.: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm > > Surname Helper Search Engine: > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html > > > > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Doris, I found a small reference to John Wright in the 1881 History of Marion and Clinton Counties book I have. Under the history of the Baptist Church, Marshall Creek Baptist Church. "In 1834 John Wright came on a visit from St. Clair County, and expressed a desire that a religious meeting might be held here by Elders Arnot and Boyskin." Don't know if it's the same one or not. No Curry mentioned in the book. ----- Original Message ----- From: Doris Christian <dmkchristian@austin.rr.com> To: <IL-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 4:50 PM Subject: [IL-CENTRAL] John Wright/ Nancy Curry > I am interested in information on John Wright (b. abt. 1785) and Nancy Curry > (b. 1788 (their parents, siblings, where they were from.... etc.) they lived > in Maury Co., Tenn. before moving to the Clinton/Fayette Co. area about > 1825. > > Any help on this family is appreciated. > > Doris C. > > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > Difference between IL-CENTRAL-L and IL-CENTRAL-D: IL-CENTRAL-L mailing list allows you to receive every posting made to IL-CENTRAL as a separate email. IL-CENTRAL-D mailing list allows you to receive several postings as a single large message. >

Does anyone know anything about a Cyclone in the Carlyle/Breese area between 1860 and 1900? I have a partial article concerning the estimated $150,000 damage, but there is no indication of the date...only that it was a few minutes before 6 on a Friday. Looks like the Catholic Church sustained the most damage at $60,000, then Episcopal Church at $10,000. If anyone is interested I could list all the names of the businesses and people who sustained lost. Thanks for any help with this. Carolyn Wilburn Medlin

How many of you have arms which have grown too short to read that tiny print? Reading glasses just don't seem to cut it sometimes, particularly with old records and tiny print. I've talked about this with other genealogists and the problem is not unique. Unfortunately none of us are getting any younger. I have volunteered to type up Civil War rosters from the Adjutant General's Report for ILGenWeb -- and I can't read them. Others complain about problems with microfilm, old newspapers, etc. Does anyone have some things that work to solve this problem? Cheryl Rothwell LoganCty@mindspring.com

Yes please post... > Does anyone know anything about a Cyclone in the Carlyle/Breese area between > 1860 and 1900? I have a partial article concerning the estimated $150,000 > damage, but there is no indication of the date...only that it was a few > minutes before 6 on a Friday. Looks like the Catholic Church sustained the > most damage at $60,000, then Episcopal Church at $10,000. > > If anyone is interested I could list all the names of the businesses and > people who sustained lost. > > Thanks for any help with this. > > Carolyn Wilburn Medlin > > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > Search USGenWeb including the archives, census' which are done, etc.: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm > Surname Helper Search Engine: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html >

Hi Cheryl .... I don't have this problem .... yet. I think I need some additional life experience first. :) But ..... I've two potential solutions that helped my mom with her cross-stitching. (another nasty hobby, almost as bad as genealogy!) At some stores, Wal-Mart is one that I've seen them at, you can get MAGNIFYING glasses. Plastic glasses that have magnifying lenses, for about 5 bucks. They're big enough to fit over your regular eyeglasses if you have them, and they simply make things larger. In some hobby shops and craft shops I've seen magnifying glasses that hang around your neck on a chain and rest against the chest. There's a large lens between your head and your lap that magnifies whatever you're looking at. It's very helpful with cross-stitching, when you have the material in your lap at hand level, and look down to sew. The hanging lens is better than the magnifying glasses if you do work and watch TV at the same time. Glancing up and seeing Oprah through those mag lenses is a frightening possibility! Good Luck ...... Scott Burow ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Rothwell" <LoganCty@mindspring.com> To: <ILGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: [ILGEN-L] Aging Eyes Reading Aging Records > How many of you have arms which have grown too short to read that tiny > print? Reading glasses just don't seem to cut it sometimes, particularly > with old records and tiny print. I've talked about this with other > genealogists and the problem is not unique. Unfortunately none of us are > getting any younger. > > I have volunteered to type up Logan County Civil War rosters from the > Adjutant General's Report for ILGenWeb -- and I can't read them. Others > complain about problems with microfilm, old newspapers, etc. > > Does anyone have some things that work to solve this problem? > > Cheryl Rothwell > LoganCty@mindspring.com > >

Sometimes a piece of yellow paper on a microfilm "table" helps. Also, if you can make a copy on a copier, i.e. newspaper, that can make it easier to read. Then there are magnifying pages, lens and young friends!!!! Hang in there! Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Cheryl Rothwell <LoganCty@mindspring.com> To: <IL-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 6:26 PM Subject: [IL-CENTRAL] Aging Eyes Reading Aging Records > How many of you have arms which have grown too short to read that tiny > print? Reading glasses just don't seem to cut it sometimes, particularly > with old records and tiny print. I've talked about this with other > genealogists and the problem is not unique. Unfortunately none of us are > getting any younger. > > I have volunteered to type up Civil War rosters from the Adjutant General's > Report for ILGenWeb -- and I can't read them. Others complain about problems > with microfilm, old newspapers, etc. > > Does anyone have some things that work to solve this problem? > > Cheryl Rothwell > LoganCty@mindspring.com > > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

I do know there was a PoorHouse in Effingham County, Il. It wqas runby Mr. and Mrs. Erastus Norris at one time. I don't have any particular information about it, but assume the County Clerk's office in Effingham, Il. 62401, woud have records. Hope this is useful to your project. Gayle Tipsword Norris gltn8 To do research on my ancestors is to show respect and veneration for them and myself.

I have run across a few notations of commissioners courts paying for the care of Paupers, would that kind of miscellaneous information be helpful to this new site? Some of what I have may have been from Quarterly publications, so would that be a copyright infringement? Carolyn Wilburn Medlin ----- Original Message ----- From: Poor House Lady <phlady@jump.net> To: <IL-CENTRAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 2:06 AM Subject: [IL-CENTRAL] POORHOUSE Information > On my recently published website http://www.poorhousestory.com -- which is a > clearinghouse for information about 19th Century American Poorhouses -- I > have featured ILLINOIS as a state where poorhouse history has been very well > documented. You can see this at page http://www.getccs.com/phl/houses.htm > and you can read what we have posted to the ILLINOIS page at > http://www.getccs.com/phl/poorhouses_in_illinois.htm > > If any of you know of any ILLINOIS Poorhouse information which we have not > listed, I would really appreciate hearing from you. > > Thanks, > Linda > > > ==== IL-CENTRAL Mailing List ==== > You can search the surname or county mail list msgs here: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > For this mailing list, enter the word il-central. > Find the names of other maillists to search: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/ >