> From: braceydoyle@msn.com > Subject: [IL-Cen] 1910 / EDGAR / ALBRECHT, Everett > Please look for Everett Albrecht. He married a dau. of John Andrew and Martha Ann Rhoads Dye between 1900 and 1907. By 1928, his wife had died, as she was not listed as a survivor in her mother's obit. There are two Dye daughters, born between 1866 and 1868 who are possible wives for Everett. One is Luella, born 1866 according to the 1880 census. The other is Mallie F?, b. 1868, according to the 1900 census. I realize this isn't much to go on, but anything you can find out will be greatly appreciated. Karen This is weird. I can't find Eve* Alb* in 1910/1920/1930. I can't get anywhere with Mallie and Luella after 1900. _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile2_042009

Karen, Georgette is such a good researcher I like to read her comments and clues first before responding; but to clarify does the obit list Everett Albrecht as a resident of Edgar? I couldn't find Everett either using every combination including alternate spelling Albright. I too can't find Luella. There are Luella & Everett Albrechts in later censuses but too young to be these. I looked 1880 through 1930 and couldn't find an Albrecht in IL that fits the criterion. As you know, Mollie is a nickname for Mary. so I think the Mallie of 1900 is actually your Mary F. Dye. Did you find an obit for Papa John? It might be helpful to establish surviving children. 188o Symmes, Edgar also lists a child Lillie age 8 do you know what happened to her? Beverlee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgette Ochs" <tetlin@hotmail.com> To: <il-census-lookup@rootsweb.com>; <braceydoyle@msn.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1910 / EDGAR / ALBRECHT, Everett > From: braceydoyle@msn.com > Subject: [IL-Cen] 1910 / EDGAR / ALBRECHT, Everett > Please look for Everett Albrecht. He married a dau. of John Andrew and > Martha Ann Rhoads Dye between 1900 and 1907. By 1928, his wife had died, > as she was not listed as a survivor in her mother's obit. There are two > Dye daughters, born between 1866 and 1868 who are possible wives for > Everett. One is Luella, born 1866 according to the 1880 census. The other > is Mallie F?, b. 1868, according to the 1900 census. I realize this isn't > much to go on, but anything you can find out will be greatly appreciated. > Karen This is weird. I can't find Eve* Alb* in 1910/1920/1930. I can't get anywhere with Mallie and Luella after 1900. _________________________________________________________________

Hi Beverlee, >From the obits of John Andrew Dye and his wife Martha Ann Rhoads Dye, it wasn't clear to me whether Mrs. Everett Albrecht was in Edgar Co. or not. Below are my transcriptions of the copies of the obits. The obits are preceded by all the census info I have on the family and are followed by an attempt to figure out which dau was Mrs. This and which was Mrs. That! It's a bunch of stuff. Hope your mailbox has lots of room! Unfortunately, the 1928 obit was near a crease which left the lefthand margin unintelligible. I've enclosed my guesses in question marks. I looked by Edgar Co. Dye brides before 1900 online and found this. Edgar Co. Marriages Pre-1900 show Flora Dye married Everett Allred in 1896, but I couldn't find them either. Funny you should ask about Lillie F. b, 1872 in the 1880 census. I don't know what happened to her. I should have listed her as a potenial wife for Everett Albrecht. As you'll see from the obits. there is also a dau. named Mrs J. B. ????? in 1907 and in 1928. I don't know whether she is Lillie F., Luella, or Mallie F. You suggest that Mallie F = Mollie F. = Mary F..= Mary. I hope you are right. That would help fix a problem I'm having. I got the names of 13 kids from the 1870-1900 censuses, but both the parents's obits insist there were only 11 kids. I was wondering which girls were really the same, but differences in birth years kept me from feeling comfortable about combining any of them. DYES: Mary b. 1864 [per 1870c] Mary b. 1863 [per 1880c] Mary F. b. 1867 [per 1930c WY, Campbell Co. next door to J. Frank Dye] Mallie F. b. 1868 [per 1900c of her father] Lillie F. b. 1872 [per 1880c] Luella b. 1866 [per both 1870 and 1880c] Here's what I do know. …..I have post-1930 Campbell Co., WY obits for sons John Franklin "Frank" Dye and Charles L Dye. ---Dau Grace is Mrs. Burnie/Bennie Younger ---Dau. Elizabeth is Mrs. M. A. Ingole ---Dau. Mary B.=Blanche= Mrs. Harry Baker ---Dau. Rose is Mrs. W. J. Griffin ****************** NOW THE CENSUSES ************************ 1870 U.S. Census ILLINOIS , EDGAR, SYMMES TOWNSHIP Series: M593 Roll: 218 Page: 265, sheet 23 and sheet 24 Post Office Paris, Town is spelled Sims Township on the images. August 25, 1870Dwelling 180, family 165 Dye, John, 37 [1833], m, w, Farmer, 0./600., KY , Martha, 31 [1839], f, w, Keeping House, IL , William, 8 [1862], m, w, IL , Mary 6 [1864], f, w, IL , Clarence, 5 [1865], m, w, IL , Luella, 4 [1866], f, w, IL , Rosa, 2 [1868], f, w, IL , Orlando, 1 [1869], m, w, IL [Next door is Martha's half brother George Rhoads] CourtesyJennifer (jhl1188@optonline.net)email 1/25/09] **************** IS THIS OURS? 1880 Census Place Symmes, Edgar, Illinois Family History Library Film 1254205 NA Film Number T9-0205 Page Number 247A John DYE Self M Male W 45 [1835] KY Farmer KY KY Martha A. DYE Wife M Female W 41 [1839] IL Housekeeping KY TN William L. DYE Son S Male W 19 [1861] IL At Home KY IL Mary DYE Dau S Female W 17 [1863] IL At Home KY IL Clarance DYE Son S Male W 15 [1865] IL At Home KY IL Luella DYE Dau S Female W 14 [1866] IL At School KY IL Rose E. DYE Dau S Female W 11 [1869] IL At School KY IL John F. DYE Son S Male W 10 [1870] IL At School KY IL Lillie F. DYE Dau S Female W 8 [1872] IL At School KY IL Charles L. DYE Son S Male W 6 [1874] IL At School KY IL Mary B. DYE Dau S Female W 4 [1876] IL At Home KY IL Elizzy A. DYE Dau S Female W 2 [1878] IL KY IL ******************* 1897 There is a Charles Dye married 1897 in Edgar Co., From Charles L Dye, husband of Versa Estella Knight's obit, Charles L.'s Parents are John A. and Martha A Dye. [His brother,] John Franklin Dye's obit acknowledges C [harles] L. Dye [brother] and John Dye and Martha Rhoads [parents]. DYE, CHARLES L KNIGHT, VERSA E 1897-02-24 0II/0138 EDGAR [Courtesy Georgette Ochs (tetlin@hotmail.com) email 1/28/09] ************ OUR JOHN & MARTHA IN TWO HOUSEHOLDS? 1900 United States Federal Census about John Dye Name: John Dye Home in 1900: Symmes, Edgar, Illinois Age: 65 Birth Date: Sep 1839 [? implies age 61, not 65. Is he born 1865 or 1869?] 1900; Census Place: Symmes, Edgar, Illinois; Roll: T623_299 Page: 15A; Enumeration District: 76. June 29 Dye, John, head, 65, Sept., 1834, married 35 years [1865], (but doesn't list his wife), b. KY, parents b. KY, farmer, Mallie F?., 32, March, 1868, single, b. IL, father b. KY, mother b. IL, teacher, [??not on 1870 or 1880 census for couple. Couple had Rose E and Orlando abt 1869] and Luella abt 1866 Grace, daughter, 18, May, 1884 [?1882] single, b. IL, father b. KY, mother b. IL, [? Same child as in ma, Martha A. Dye's hh? ] Charles, head, 26, Oct., 1873, married 3 years, b. IL, parents b. IL, [agrees w/ our couple] Stella, wife, 23, Oct., 1876, married 3 years, 2 births, 2 living, b. IL parents b. IL, Madge, daughter, 2, Feb., 1898, b. IL, parents b. IL, Myre, daughter, 5/12, Jan., 1900, b. IL, parents b. IL, [Courtesy Georgette Ochs (tetlin@hotmail.com) email 1/28/09] *************** Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Paris, Edgar, Illinois; Roll: T623_299 Page: 13A; Enumeration District: 70. June 7 811 S. Central?? Ave. Dye, Martha, head, 62, May, 1838, married 39 years [1861], (but no husband listed), 11 births, 9 living, b. IL, father b. KY, mother b. TN, Blanche, daughter, 23, Dec., 1876, single, b. IL, father b. KY, mother b. IL, laundress, [?Mary B. b. 1876] Grace, daughter, 19, May, 1881, single, b. IL, father b. KY, mother b. IL, [same Grace as living w/ her father, John [Courtesy Georgette Ochs (tetlin@hotmail.com) email 1/28/09] ************ 1910; Census Place: Paris Ward 1, Edgar, Illinois; Roll: T624_286; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 48; Image: 878. April 25 811 S. Central Avenue Dye, Martha A., head, 70 [1840], widowed, 11 births, 8 living, b. IL, father b. KY, mother b. TN, Mary, daughter, 46 [1864], single, b. IL, father b. KY, mother b. IL, teacher for school, [Courtesy Georgette Ochs (tetlin@hotmail.com) email 4/13/09] **************** 1920;Census Place: Paris Ward 1, Edgar, Illinois; Roll: T625_367; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 51; Image: 237. Jan. 3, 811 S. Central Dye, Martha, head, owns house, 80, [1840]widowed, b. IL, father b. PA, mother b. TN McGill, Howard, roomer, 18, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, McGill, Myrtle, roomer, 15, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, Clapp Cora, roomer, 28, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, None of them have an occupation listed. Ancestry.com calls the roomers Megill, but I thought it could be Mcgill. So I looked in 1910, and the family is listed as both Mcgill and Magill, so then I looked in 1900, and it is listed as Mcgill: [Courtesy Georgette Ochs (tetlin@hotmail.com) email 4/14/09] ***********************88 Illinois Statewide Death Index, 1916–1950 Last Name First Name Middle Name Sex/ Race Age Cert # Death Date County City Date Filed DYE MARTHA ANN F/W UNK 0230073 1928-03-09 EDGAR PARIS 28-03-10 ******************** ****************** NOW THE OBITS *************************** DEATH OF ANOTHER WORTHY CITIZEN----JOHN DYE SUCCUMBS TO COMPLICATION OF MALADIES AT HIS RESIDENCE HERE. John Dye, an old resident of this city, passed away, at six o'clock this morning, at his residence No. 811 South Central Avenue in this city, of a complication of diseases and a confinement to his bed for a fortnight. Deceased was born at Mason, KY in 1834, and was nearly 74 years old. He immigrated to Illinois, where he was married Nov. 11, 1860 to Miss Martha A. Rhoads, who still survives. To this union? were born eleven children, nine of whom survive, as follows: Charles and Frank Dye, Mary Dye, Mrs. Everett Albrecht, Mrs. J. ????????, Mrs. W. J. Griffin, Mrs. Harry Baker, Mrs. M. A. Ingold and ?Mrs. Burnie Younger. He is also survived by a sister, Mrs. Maggie Car??uter, of Cincinnati, O., and two brothers, Ross Dye, of Bloomington, Ill., and Henry Dye, of Peabody, KS. Deceased was a genial and jolly companion, and had hosts of friends among his associates. He had sympathy for the sick and the distressed, and was diligent in all good works, his ethics being those of a Christian gentleman. He was therefore a fine friend and a good neighbor, and will be mourned by a large number of relatives and friends. It is understood that the funeral will take place on Monday [Mar 11, 1907], but the time has not yet been fixed nor have any definite arrangements yet been made for for [sic] the service or the interment. Announcement will be made later. Paris Daily Beacon, Saturday, Mar. 9, 1907, page 2. Provided for $5.00 by the Edgar Co., Genealogy Library, 408 Main St. Paris, IL 61944 ********************** MARTHA A. DYE ???LED BY DEATH Martha Dye, 88 years old, died? ? o'clock this morning at ?81?1 South Central Avenue,?after a? lingering illness. She ?frac?tured a hip. ?Martha? Rhoads, a daughter of ?d Rachel Rhoads was ?les south of Paris May ?1 was married to John Nov 11, 1860. He died ?years ago today. ?To this u? nion were born 11 ? children eig?ht of whom survive: J. ?Frank, Charles?les L., Miss Mary Dye,??e Wyo; Mrs. M. A. In??? ille, IND; Mrs. J. B. ? ? Harry Baker, Mrs. Grace ???, Mrs. W. J. Griffin all ?of Edgar Co.? ??? was a member of the ??urch. ?Fune?rel will be held from ? church at 2:30 o'clock ?aft?ernoon, the Rev. W. E. ??ficiating. The body will ?orrison chapel until the?/ Paris Daily Beacon-News, Friday Evening, Mar. 9, 1928, Page 5. Crease of Paper [makes much illegible]. Provided Feb. 2009, for $5.00 by the Edgar Co., Genealogy Library, 408 Main St. Paris, IL 61944 ******************* S U R V I V O R S 1907 1928 Pa's obit: 11 kids/ 9 surviving Ma's Obit: 11 kids / 8 surving Frank, Charles & Miss Mary Dye >??? ???Cles L, Mis Mary Dye, ???e, WY Married Girls In Pa's 1907 Obit Marriaged Girls In Ma's 1928 Obit Mrs. Everett Albrecht ?? Died < 1928 Mrs. J. ?????? Mrs. J. B. ????? Mrs W. J. Griffin Mrs W. J. Griffin Mrs. Henry Baker Mrs. Henry Baker Mrs. M. A. Ingold M. A. In?????? ille, IN Mrs. Burnie Younger ??Mrs. Grace There were only 2 boys alive in 1907, so all other boys died before 1907. Mrs. Everett Albrecht was alive in 1907 but died before the 1928 obit. The only marriage to 1900 found in Edgar Co. was the marriage of Lizzie to M. A. Ingold. Who are the 11 kids? The nine survivors in 1907 were 2 sons, Miss Mary Dye, and 6 married daughters. The 8 survivors in 1928 were the 2 sons and all but one of the married daughters. - - - - - - Mrs. Everett Albrecht: nf 1910 Edgar Co. Edgar Co. Marriages show Flora Dye married Everett Allred in 1896. Flora can't be Mallie F. b. Mar 1868? because she was single and living w/ her parents in 1900. She would have been 18 when married? No Ever* Allre*/Albre* was found in Edgar Co. in the 1910 census. There was no Flor* Allre*/Albre* in Edgar Co. 1910 IL / EDGAR / ALBRECHT, Everett Please look for Everett Albrecht. He married a dau. of John Andrew and Martha Ann Rhoads Dye between 1900 and 1907. By 1928, his wife had died, as she was not listed as a survivor in her mother's obit. There are two Dye daughters, born between 1866 and 1868 who are possible wives for Everett. One is Luella, born 1866 according to the 1880 census. The other is Mallie F?, b. 1868, according to the 1900 census. I realize this isn't much to go on, but anything you can find out will be greatly appreciated. Karen - - - - - This is weird. I can't find Eve* Alb* in 1910/1920/1930. I can't get anywhere with Mallie and Luella after 1900. [Courtesy Georgette Ochs (tetlin@hotmail.com) email 4/29/09] ------ Mrs. W. J. Griffin: 1910 Edgar Co., W. J Griffin & Wife Rose E. b. 1869 GRIFFIN, WINSTON J married DYE, ROSE E 1889-01-03 G /471 3 CLARK Co. So. Rose E. married W. J. Griffin - - - - - - Mrs. Harry Baker. Harry W. Baker and Blanche b. 1876 in 1910 Edgar Co. Census No Harry Baker married a Dye/Die bride in IL to 1900. No Blan* Dye marriage in IL to 1900. - - - - - Mrs. Burnie Younger. 1910 Edgar Co., Bennie Younger and wife Grace b. 1881. Is this Grace Dye b. ~1882 No IL marriage of Grace Dye to a Younger to 1900. No Younger, B* to a Grace Statewide IL to 1900. *****************THAT'S IT FOR NOW**************************** > From: trace97@surewest.net > To: il-census-lookup@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:09:38 -0700 > Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1910 / EDGAR / ALBRECHT, Everett > > Karen, Georgette is such a good researcher I like to read her comments and > clues first before responding; but to clarify does the obit list Everett > Albrecht as a resident of Edgar? I couldn't find Everett either using every > combination including alternate spelling Albright. I too can't find Luella. > There are Luella & Everett Albrechts in later censuses but too young to be > these. I looked 1880 through 1930 and couldn't find an Albrecht in IL that > fits the criterion. As you know, Mollie is a nickname for Mary. so I think > the Mallie of 1900 is actually your Mary F. Dye. Did you find an obit for > Papa John? It might be helpful to establish surviving children. 188o > Symmes, Edgar also lists a child Lillie age 8 do you know what happened to > her? Beverlee > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Georgette Ochs" <tetlin@hotmail.com> > To: <il-census-lookup@rootsweb.com>; <braceydoyle@msn.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1910 / EDGAR / ALBRECHT, Everett > > > > > From: braceydoyle@msn.com > > Subject: [IL-Cen] 1910 / EDGAR / ALBRECHT, Everett > > Please look for Everett Albrecht. He married a dau. of John Andrew and > > Martha Ann Rhoads Dye between 1900 and 1907. By 1928, his wife had died, > > as she was not listed as a survivor in her mother's obit. There are two > > Dye daughters, born between 1866 and 1868 who are possible wives for > > Everett. One is Luella, born 1866 according to the 1880 census. The other > > is Mallie F?, b. 1868, according to the 1900 census. I realize this isn't > > much to go on, but anything you can find out will be greatly appreciated. > > Karen > > > This is weird. I can't find Eve* Alb* in 1910/1920/1930. I can't get > anywhere with Mallie and Luella after 1900. > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > *********** > > A mailing list for anyone desiring a check of this state's census records for their ancestors. Requests should be as specific as possible and include county name, specific family of interest, and year whenever possible. In addition, those who own or have access to census records and are willing to do lookups are asked to subscribe and assist in responding to queries. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message