Hmmmmm; this raises all sorts of possbilities like "did he leave his wife #1?, etc.". Some of the data in this fits but some does not. Could you please look for a Mary M Short born abt. 1865 in IL with a son named Leo b. 1903 in IL in the 1910 Census. IF I can find her & Leo, I can possibly piece together what happened. Thank you. Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!
Carol, this is the only Leo* SHORT b IL c1903 in the entire 1910 census, but his mother's name is Lizzie married to James. Name: Leonard Short Age in 1910: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1904 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Son Father's name: James Father's Birth Place: Illinois Mother's name: Lizzie Mother's Birth Place: Illinois Home in 1910: North Fork, Gallatin, Illinois Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Male Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Short 37 Lizzie Short 26 Leonard Short 6 Anna Short 4 Robt Simpson 18 Charley Simpson 14 Maybe Mary remarried? and Leo is listed under her name? Does Leo have another name? Or Anna M. is Mary. Her age is only off by a few years. I looked for SHORT in Williamson Co but there were none listed. Nanc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Garbo" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1910; Short -found in IN, Starke Co > Hmmmmm; this raises all sorts of possbilities like "did he leave his > wife #1?, etc.". Some of the data in this fits but some does not. > Could you please look for a Mary M Short born abt. 1865 in IL with a son > named Leo b. 1903 in IL in the 1910 Census. IF I can find her & Leo, I > can possibly piece together what happened. Thank you. Carol > > Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we > are here, we may as well dance!
Carol, I can't seem to locate a match for Leo and his mother Mary. About the only child I find from 1900 is possibly Everett with wife Daisie in Greene Co IL, but there seems to be other SHORT families in Greene Co that could be another line. Source Citation: Year: 1910; lines 2-3, 44/44, taken Apr.21st, Census Place: Woodville, Greene, Illinois; Roll: T624_289; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 45; Image: 1053. Name: Everett Short Age in 1910: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1887 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: United States of America Mother's Birth Place: United States of America Spouse's name: Davie Home in 1910: Woodville, Greene, Illinois Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Everett Short 23 h/h m w M#1=1yr, IL USA USA, farm laborer, rents house Davie Short 23 ...looks like Daisie, wife f w 23y, M#1, IL IL IL I checked the 1920 index as well and did not find a Leo SHORT bIL c1903 listed there either. Also tried SHART, SHURT spellings. Nanc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Garbo" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1910; Short -found in IN, Starke Co > Hmmmmm; this raises all sorts of possbilities like "did he leave his > wife #1?, etc.". Some of the data in this fits but some does not. > Could you please look for a Mary M Short born abt. 1865 in IL with a son > named Leo b. 1903 in IL in the 1910 Census. IF I can find her & Leo, I > can possibly piece together what happened. Thank you. Carol > > Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we > are here, we may as well dance!
From: [email protected] (Carol Garbo) >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1910; Short -found in IN, Starke Co >Hmmmmm; this raises all sorts of possbilities like "did he leave his >wife #1?, etc.". Some of the data in this fits but some does not. >Could you please look for a Mary M Short born abt. 1865 in IL with a son >named Leo b. 1903 in IL in the 1910 Census. IF I can find her & Leo, I >can possibly piece together what happened. Thank you. Carol Social Security Death Index about Leo Short Name: Leo Short SSN: 333-12-4867 Last Residence: 63936 Dudley, Stoddard, Missouri, United States of America Born: 28 Sep 1903 Last Benefit: 62959 Marion, Williamson, Illinois, United States of America Died: Sep 1978 State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951 ) Source Citation: Number: 333-12-4867;Issue State: Illinois;Issue Date: Before 1951. 1920 United States Federal Census about Leo Short Name: Leo Short Home in 1920: West Marion, Williamson, Illinois Age: 14 years Estimated birth year: abt 1906 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Son Father's Birth Place: Illinois Mother's name: Mary Mother's Birth Place: Illinois Marital Status: Single Race: White Sex: Male Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 1093 Household Members: Name Age Mary Short 58 Everett Short 33 Caude Short 19 Leo Short 14 Loran Webb 80 Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: West Marion, Williamson, Illinois; Roll: T625_418; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 180; Image: 1093. Short, Mary, head, rents, 58, widowed, b. IL, mother b. IL, father b. TN, Everett, son, 33, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, coal miner, Eauda?, son, 19, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, coal miner, Leo, son, 14, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, Webb, Lazarus, father, 80, widowed, b. IL, parents b. IL, 1930 United States Federal Census about Candy Short Name: Candy Short Home in 1930: West Marion, Williamson, Illinois Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1903 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's name: Sally Household Members: Name Age Candy Short 27 Sally Short 20 Floyd Short 4 1/12 Bobbie J Short 9/12 Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: West Marion, Williamson, Illinois; Roll: 570; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 53; Image: 1089.0. Short, Candy, head, rents, 27, age at first marriage 22, coal miner, not a military veteran, Sally, wife, 20, age at first marriage 15, Floyd, son, 4 1/12, Bobbie J., son, 9/12, all b. IL, parents b. IL _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG
Sorry, that should be Mary Short's mother b. TN, and father b. IL. >From: "Georgette Ochs" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected], [email protected] >Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1910; Short - 1920/1930 >Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:45:24 -0600 > >From: [email protected] (Carol Garbo) > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1910; Short -found in IN, Starke Co > >Hmmmmm; this raises all sorts of possbilities like "did he leave his > >wife #1?, etc.". Some of the data in this fits but some does not. > >Could you please look for a Mary M Short born abt. 1865 in IL with a son > >named Leo b. 1903 in IL in the 1910 Census. IF I can find her & Leo, I > >can possibly piece together what happened. Thank you. Carol > > >Social Security Death Index about Leo Short >Name: Leo Short >SSN: 333-12-4867 >Last Residence: 63936 Dudley, Stoddard, Missouri, United States of America >Born: 28 Sep 1903 >Last Benefit: 62959 Marion, Williamson, Illinois, United States of America >Died: Sep 1978 >State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951 ) >Source Citation: Number: 333-12-4867;Issue State: Illinois;Issue Date: >Before 1951. > > >1920 United States Federal Census about Leo Short >Name: Leo Short >Home in 1920: West Marion, Williamson, Illinois >Age: 14 years >Estimated birth year: abt 1906 >Birthplace: Illinois >Relation to Head of House: Son >Father's Birth Place: Illinois >Mother's name: Mary >Mother's Birth Place: Illinois >Marital Status: Single >Race: White >Sex: Male >Able to read: Yes >Able to Write: Yes >Image: 1093 >Household Members: Name Age >Mary Short 58 >Everett Short 33 >Caude Short 19 >Leo Short 14 >Loran Webb 80 >Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: West Marion, Williamson, >Illinois; >Roll: T625_418; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 180; Image: 1093. >Short, Mary, head, rents, 58, widowed, b. IL, mother b. IL, father b. TN, >Everett, son, 33, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, coal miner, >Eauda?, son, 19, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, coal miner, >Leo, son, 14, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, >Webb, Lazarus, father, 80, widowed, b. IL, parents b. IL, > > >1930 United States Federal Census about Candy Short >Name: Candy Short >Home in 1930: West Marion, Williamson, Illinois >Age: 27 >Estimated birth year: abt 1903 >Birthplace: Illinois >Relation to Head of House: Head >Spouse's name: Sally >Household Members: Name Age >Candy Short 27 >Sally Short 20 >Floyd Short 4 1/12 >Bobbie J Short 9/12 >Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: West Marion, Williamson, >Illinois; Roll: 570; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 53; Image: 1089.0. >Short, Candy, head, rents, 27, age at first marriage 22, coal miner, not a >military veteran, >Sally, wife, 20, age at first marriage 15, >Floyd, son, 4 1/12, >Bobbie J., son, 9/12, >all b. IL, parents b. IL > >_________________________________________________________________ >Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. >http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG > > >*********** > >A mailing list for anyone desiring a check of this state's census records >for their ancestors. Requests should be as specific as possible and include >county name, specific family of interest, and year whenever possible. In >addition, those who own or have access to census records and are willing to >do lookups are asked to subscribe and assist in responding to queries. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG
1930 United States Federal Census Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Vienna, Johnson, Illinois; Roll: 518; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 16; Image: 1166.0. Home in 1930: Vienna, Johnson, Illinois Matsinger, Albert M., head, rents, 61, age at first marriage 22, b. IL, parents b. IL, farming, not a military veteran, Elsie, wife, 39, age at first marriage 16, b. IL, parents b. IL, Opal F., daughter, 11, b. IL, parents b. IL, Kenneth L., son, 8, b. IL, parents b. IL, Mary L., daughter, 6, b. IL, parents b. IL, Short, Everett, brother-in-law, 42, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, laborer on farm,not a military veteran, Short, Mary M.A., mother-in-law, 66, widowed, b. IL, father b. IL, mother b. TN next to Short, Roy, head, rents, 32, age at first marriage 23, b. IL, parents b. IL, farming, not a military veteran, Sarah J., wife, 29, age at first marriage 20, b. IL, parents b. IL, Dorothy M.,daughter, 7, b. IL, parents b. IL, Leroy, son, 2 7/12, b. IL, parents b. IL, _________________________________________________________________ Valentines Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095&tcode=wlmtagline
After seeing that Lazarus Webb was Mary's father, I looked for him in 1910 wondering if the Short famly was with him. I believe I found him but they are not with him. Wendy Grassy Twp, Williamson County, IL 1910 Page 252A E. D. 159, sheet 9A May 2, 1910 159/159 Lassar Webb, head, age 67, first marriage, married 45 years, b IL parents b IL, farm laborer Elsbeth J., wife, age 66, first marriage, 4 of 5 children living, b TN, parents b TN Harley, son, age 20, single, b IL, farm laborer On 2/5/07, Georgette Ochs <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: [email protected] (Carol Garbo) > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1910; Short -found in IN, Starke Co > >Hmmmmm; this raises all sorts of possbilities like "did he leave his > >wife #1?, etc.". Some of the data in this fits but some does not. > >Could you please look for a Mary M Short born abt. 1865 in IL with a son > >named Leo b. 1903 in IL in the 1910 Census. IF I can find her & Leo, I > >can possibly piece together what happened. Thank you. Carol > > > 1920 United States Federal Census about Leo Short > Name: Leo Short > Home in 1920: West Marion, Williamson, Illinois > Age: 14 years > Estimated birth year: abt 1906 > Birthplace: Illinois > Relation to Head of House: Son > Father's Birth Place: Illinois > Mother's name: Mary > Mother's Birth Place: Illinois > Marital Status: Single > Race: White > Sex: Male > Able to read: Yes > Able to Write: Yes > Image: 1093 > Household Members: Name Age > Mary Short 58 > Everett Short 33 > Caude Short 19 > Leo Short 14 > Loran Webb 80 > Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: West Marion, Williamson, > Illinois; > Roll: T625_418; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 180; Image: 1093. > Short, Mary, head, rents, 58, widowed, b. IL, mother b. IL, father b. TN, > Everett, son, 33, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, coal miner, > Eauda?, son, 19, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, coal miner, > Leo, son, 14, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, > Webb, Lazarus, father, 80, widowed, b. IL, parents b. IL, > > >