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    1. Re: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY
    2. Jennifer

    3. Fred, This appears to be the same 1870 family in the 1860... HATREE, THOMAS (1860 U.S. Census) ILLINOIS , MARION, SALEM P O Age: 47, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ENGL Series: M653 Roll: 207 Page: 877 July 28, 1870 Dwelling 833, family 859 Thomas Hatree, 47, m, $300., ENG Sarah J., " , 30, f, OH Flora " , 14, f, IL, attended school Mary B. " , 11, f, IL, " Ellen " , 9, f, IL, " James " , 2, m, IL Jennifer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY > Hello Fred, > > With what Becky found, I came across this in the 1870... > > HARTLY, THOMAS (1870 U.S. Census) > ILLINOIS , LOGAN, EAST LINCOLN TWP > Age: 60, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ENGL > Series: M593 Roll: 248 Page: 152 > June 4, 1870, > > Dwelling 162, family 162, > > Hartly, Thomas, 60, m, w, Brick mason, $0./125.00, ENG, parents of foreign > birth > " , Sarah J., 40, f, w, House Keeper, OH > " , Flora, 23, f, w, Sewing, ILL, father of foreign birth > " , Mary, 21, f, w, At home, ILL, father of foreign birth > " , Helen, 18, f, w, Dom Sevt, ILL, father of foreign birth > Hartly, Jas, 12, m, w, At home, ILL > > > > Jennifer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rebecca Millet" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:08 PM > Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY > > >> Fred, >> >> Here's Thomas and Mary Ann in 1850: >> >> Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Bloomington, McLean, Illinois; >> Roll: M432_117; Page: 6; Image: 392. >> 3 Sep 1850 >> 335/344 >> Thos HARTRY, 37, M, Brick Mason, England >> Mary Ann, 37, 37, F, England >> >> *************** >> Looks like he remarried by 1880: >> >> Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Lincoln, Logan, Illinois; >> Roll: T9_227; Family History Film: 1254227; Page: 126.2000; Enumeration >> District: 42; Image: 0255. >> 3 Jun 1880 >> Logan Street >> 88/88 >> >> Census Place: 2nd Ward, Lincoln, Logan, Illinois >> Source: FHL Film 1254227 National Archives Film T9-0227 Page 126B >> Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace >> Thomas HARTRY Self M M W 68 ENGLAND >> Occ: Laborer Fa: ENGLAND Mo: ENGLAND >> Jane HARTRY Wife F M W 50 OH >> Occ: Keeping House Fa: DE Mo: DE >> >> **************** >> >> >> Becky >> [email protected] >> "The best measure of the future is the record of the past." >> -Benjamin Franklin >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Fred Boulton" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:03 AM >> Subject: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY >> >> >>> Hi, everyone >>> >>> I have a Thomas HARTRY born 1812 Wells, Somerset, baptised 15 Mar 1812. >>> He >>> disappears from public record but may be the 68 yr old Thomas in Logan, >>> Illinois in 1880. The reference is Film 1254227, No T9-0227, Page 126B >>> >>> If anyone can find him on the original sheets for the 1880 or previous >>> years >>> and send me a copy, I would be very grateful. >>> >>> As usual, if I can assist with UK lookups around the Somerset area, >>> please >>> send me a note off-list. >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> >>> Fred Boulton, (BAFHS 5753) >>> Spaxton - 'Centre of the Universe' >>> (see www.spaxton.net and www.quantockonline.co.uk) >>> Researching BOULTON in South Glouc. 18th century >>> PARSONS in Kingston Seymour 18th Century >>> WARREN in South Molton 18th Century >>> HAMLYN in Devon 16th and 17th century >>> CURTIS in Bruton 18th century >>> CLEMENTS in Woolard 18th century >>> ARKWELL in Ampney Crucis 17th century >>> MANSFIELD in Midsomer Norton >>> NOWELL (KNOWLES) in Paulton >>> Also STENHOUSE in Fife, WATKINS, THORNE, PILLINGER, KIBBEY. >>> >>> >>> >>> *********** >>> >>> A mailing list for anyone desiring a check of this state's census >>> records for their ancestors. Requests should be as specific as possible >>> and include county name, specific family of interest, and year whenever >>> possible. In addition, those who own or have access to census records >>> and are willing to do lookups are asked to subscribe and assist in >>> responding to queries. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> *********** >> >> A mailing list for anyone desiring a check of this state's census records >> for their ancestors. Requests should be as specific as possible and >> include county name, specific family of interest, and year whenever >> possible. In addition, those who own or have access to census records and >> are willing to do lookups are asked to subscribe and assist in responding >> to queries. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/05/2007 10:48:09
    1. Re: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY
    2. Fred Boulton

    3. Hi, Jennifer, This is GREAT, Many Thanks. But the detail is confusing, perhaps you would care to advise. I've just been told by a correspondent on the Missouri List, that both Thomas and his brother William arrived New Orleans sometime 1849. Both were married. Thomas to Mary. Both families must have travelled up the Mississippi, William stopping at St. Louis and Thomas travelling on to Bloomington (or thereabouts). 1850 has Thomas with Mary, no children. 1860 has Thomas with new wife Sarah Jane, with 4 children aged 14, 11, 9 and 2!!!!! Would you agree that the 3 eldest are likely to be Sarah's children from an earlier marriage (although she would only be 16 when the first was born) and that 2 yr old James is the only likely one to be Thomas's? Regards, Fred PS Would anybody on the list be able to send the images - I now have the 1880. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 05 February 2007 22:48 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY Fred, This appears to be the same 1870 family in the 1860... HATREE, THOMAS (1860 U.S. Census) ILLINOIS , MARION, SALEM P O Age: 47, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ENGL Series: M653 Roll: 207 Page: 877 July 28, 1870 Dwelling 833, family 859 Thomas Hatree, 47, m, $300., ENG Sarah J., " , 30, f, OH Flora " , 14, f, IL, attended school Mary B. " , 11, f, IL, " Ellen " , 9, f, IL, " James " , 2, m, IL Jennifer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY > Hello Fred, > > With what Becky found, I came across this in the 1870... > > HARTLY, THOMAS (1870 U.S. Census) > ILLINOIS , LOGAN, EAST LINCOLN TWP > Age: 60, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ENGL > Series: M593 Roll: 248 Page: 152 > June 4, 1870, > > Dwelling 162, family 162, > > Hartly, Thomas, 60, m, w, Brick mason, $0./125.00, ENG, parents of foreign > birth > " , Sarah J., 40, f, w, House Keeper, OH > " , Flora, 23, f, w, Sewing, ILL, father of foreign birth > " , Mary, 21, f, w, At home, ILL, father of foreign birth > " , Helen, 18, f, w, Dom Sevt, ILL, father of foreign birth > Hartly, Jas, 12, m, w, At home, ILL > > > > Jennifer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rebecca Millet" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:08 PM > Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY > > >> Fred, >> >> Here's Thomas and Mary Ann in 1850: >> >> Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Bloomington, McLean, Illinois; >> Roll: M432_117; Page: 6; Image: 392. >> 3 Sep 1850 >> 335/344 >> Thos HARTRY, 37, M, Brick Mason, England >> Mary Ann, 37, 37, F, England >> >> *************** >> Looks like he remarried by 1880: >> >> Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Lincoln, Logan, Illinois; >> Roll: T9_227; Family History Film: 1254227; Page: 126.2000; Enumeration >> District: 42; Image: 0255. >> 3 Jun 1880 >> Logan Street >> 88/88 >> >> Census Place: 2nd Ward, Lincoln, Logan, Illinois >> Source: FHL Film 1254227 National Archives Film T9-0227 Page 126B >> Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace >> Thomas HARTRY Self M M W 68 ENGLAND >> Occ: Laborer Fa: ENGLAND Mo: ENGLAND >> Jane HARTRY Wife F M W 50 OH >> Occ: Keeping House Fa: DE Mo: DE >> >> **************** >> >> >> Becky >> [email protected] >> "The best measure of the future is the record of the past." >> -Benjamin Franklin >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Fred Boulton" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:03 AM >> Subject: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY >> >> >>> Hi, everyone >>> >>> I have a Thomas HARTRY born 1812 Wells, Somerset, baptised 15 Mar 1812. >>> He >>> disappears from public record but may be the 68 yr old Thomas in Logan, >>> Illinois in 1880. The reference is Film 1254227, No T9-0227, Page 126B >>> >>> If anyone can find him on the original sheets for the 1880 or previous >>> years >>> and send me a copy, I would be very grateful. >>> >>> As usual, if I can assist with UK lookups around the Somerset area, >>> please >>> send me a note off-list. >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> >>> Fred Boulton, (BAFHS 5753) >>> Spaxton - 'Centre of the Universe' >>> (see www.spaxton.net and www.quantockonline.co.uk) >>> Researching BOULTON in South Glouc. 18th century >>> PARSONS in Kingston Seymour 18th Century >>> WARREN in South Molton 18th Century >>> HAMLYN in Devon 16th and 17th century >>> CURTIS in Bruton 18th century >>> CLEMENTS in Woolard 18th century >>> ARKWELL in Ampney Crucis 17th century >>> MANSFIELD in Midsomer Norton >>> NOWELL (KNOWLES) in Paulton >>> Also STENHOUSE in Fife, WATKINS, THORNE, PILLINGER, KIBBEY. >>> >>> >>> >>> *********** >>> >>> A mailing list for anyone desiring a check of this state's census >>> records for their ancestors. Requests should be as specific as possible >>> and include county name, specific family of interest, and year whenever >>> possible. In addition, those who own or have access to census records >>> and are willing to do lookups are asked to subscribe and assist in >>> responding to queries. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> *********** >> >> A mailing list for anyone desiring a check of this state's census records >> for their ancestors. Requests should be as specific as possible and >> include county name, specific family of interest, and year whenever >> possible. In addition, those who own or have access to census records and >> are willing to do lookups are asked to subscribe and assist in responding >> to queries. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/05/2007 04:36:34
    1. Re: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY
    2. Jennifer

    3. Hello Fred, Yes, it would appear that the older children could be Sarah's. I found who could be James Hartrey in the 1880. If it is him, his parentage is father ENG mother OH, which could make Thomas his father and Sarah Jane his mother. That would make them married ca. 1858. If it was possible to find Ellen, Mary B. or Flora in the 1880 is would give their parentage and determine where their father was born. HARTREY, JAMES (1880 U.S. Census) ILLINOIS , LOGAN, 3 & 4-WD LINCOLN Age: 21, Race: WHITE, Born: IL Series: T9 Roll: 227 Page: 220 Dwelling 418, family 428 Hartrey, James, w, m, 21, married, married during census year, Painter, IL ENG OH " m Effa, w, f, 21, wife, married, married during census year, IL OH OH Jennifer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Boulton" <[email protected]> To: "'Jennifer'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: RE: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY > Hi, Jennifer, > > This is GREAT, Many Thanks. > > But the detail is confusing, perhaps you would care to advise. > I've just been told by a correspondent on the Missouri List, that both > Thomas and his brother William arrived New Orleans sometime 1849. Both > were > married. Thomas to Mary. Both families must have travelled up the > Mississippi, William stopping at St. Louis and Thomas travelling on to > Bloomington (or thereabouts). > > 1850 has Thomas with Mary, no children. > 1860 has Thomas with new wife Sarah Jane, with 4 children aged 14, 11, 9 > and > 2!!!!! > > Would you agree that the 3 eldest are likely to be Sarah's children from > an > earlier marriage (although she would only be 16 when the first was born) > and > that 2 yr old James is the only likely one to be Thomas's? > > Regards, > > Fred > > PS Would anybody on the list be able to send the images - I now have the > 1880. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 05 February 2007 22:48 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY > > > Fred, > > This appears to be the same 1870 family in the 1860... > > HATREE, THOMAS (1860 U.S. Census) > ILLINOIS , MARION, SALEM P O > Age: 47, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ENGL > Series: M653 Roll: 207 Page: 877 > July 28, 1870 > > Dwelling 833, family 859 > > Thomas Hatree, 47, m, $300., ENG > Sarah J., " , 30, f, OH > Flora " , 14, f, IL, attended school > Mary B. " , 11, f, IL, " > Ellen " , 9, f, IL, " > James " , 2, m, IL > > > Jennifer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jennifer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:38 PM > Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY > > >> Hello Fred, >> >> With what Becky found, I came across this in the 1870... >> >> HARTLY, THOMAS (1870 U.S. Census) >> ILLINOIS , LOGAN, EAST LINCOLN TWP >> Age: 60, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ENGL >> Series: M593 Roll: 248 Page: 152 >> June 4, 1870, >> >> Dwelling 162, family 162, >> >> Hartly, Thomas, 60, m, w, Brick mason, $0./125.00, ENG, parents of >> foreign >> birth >> " , Sarah J., 40, f, w, House Keeper, OH >> " , Flora, 23, f, w, Sewing, ILL, father of foreign birth >> " , Mary, 21, f, w, At home, ILL, father of foreign birth >> " , Helen, 18, f, w, Dom Sevt, ILL, father of foreign birth >> Hartly, Jas, 12, m, w, At home, ILL >> >> >> >> Jennifer >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rebecca Millet" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY >> >> >>> Fred, >>> >>> Here's Thomas and Mary Ann in 1850: >>> >>> Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Bloomington, McLean, >>> Illinois; >>> Roll: M432_117; Page: 6; Image: 392. >>> 3 Sep 1850 >>> 335/344 >>> Thos HARTRY, 37, M, Brick Mason, England >>> Mary Ann, 37, 37, F, England >>> >>> *************** >>> Looks like he remarried by 1880: >>> >>> Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Lincoln, Logan, Illinois; >>> Roll: T9_227; Family History Film: 1254227; Page: 126.2000; Enumeration >>> District: 42; Image: 0255. >>> 3 Jun 1880 >>> Logan Street >>> 88/88 >>> >>> Census Place: 2nd Ward, Lincoln, Logan, Illinois >>> Source: FHL Film 1254227 National Archives Film T9-0227 Page 126B >>> Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace >>> Thomas HARTRY Self M M W 68 ENGLAND >>> Occ: Laborer Fa: ENGLAND Mo: ENGLAND >>> Jane HARTRY Wife F M W 50 OH >>> Occ: Keeping House Fa: DE Mo: DE >>> >>> **************** >>> >>> >>> Becky >>> [email protected] >>> "The best measure of the future is the record of the past." >>> -Benjamin Franklin >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Fred Boulton" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:03 AM >>> Subject: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY >>> >>> >>>> Hi, everyone >>>> >>>> I have a Thomas HARTRY born 1812 Wells, Somerset, baptised 15 Mar 1812. >>>> He >>>> disappears from public record but may be the 68 yr old Thomas in Logan, >>>> Illinois in 1880. The reference is Film 1254227, No T9-0227, Page 126B >>>> >>>> If anyone can find him on the original sheets for the 1880 or previous >>>> years >>>> and send me a copy, I would be very grateful. >>>> >>>> As usual, if I can assist with UK lookups around the Somerset area, >>>> please >>>> send me a note off-list. >>>> >>>> Many thanks, >>>> >>>> Fred Boulton, (BAFHS 5753) >>>> Spaxton - 'Centre of the Universe' >>>> (see www.spaxton.net and www.quantockonline.co.uk) >>>> Researching BOULTON in South Glouc. 18th century >>>> PARSONS in Kingston Seymour 18th Century >>>> WARREN in South Molton 18th Century >>>> HAMLYN in Devon 16th and 17th century >>>> CURTIS in Bruton 18th century >>>> CLEMENTS in Woolard 18th century >>>> ARKWELL in Ampney Crucis 17th century >>>> MANSFIELD in Midsomer Norton >>>> NOWELL (KNOWLES) in Paulton >>>> Also STENHOUSE in Fife, WATKINS, THORNE, PILLINGER, KIBBEY. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *********** >>>> >>>> A mailing list for anyone desiring a check of this state's census >>>> records for their ancestors. Requests should be as specific as possible >>>> and include county name, specific family of interest, and year whenever >>>> possible. In addition, those who own or have access to census records >>>> and are willing to do lookups are asked to subscribe and assist in >>>> responding to queries. >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> *********** >>> >>> A mailing list for anyone desiring a check of this state's census >>> records >>> for their ancestors. Requests should be as specific as possible and >>> include county name, specific family of interest, and year whenever >>> possible. In addition, those who own or have access to census records >>> and >>> are willing to do lookups are asked to subscribe and assist in >>> responding >>> to queries. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >

    02/05/2007 12:42:51