for Carol- this looks like the SHORT family, it is quite large- Source Citation: Year: 1860; taken July 26th, lines 36-40&1-6/next page, 826/826, Census Place: Township 6 S Range 1 E, Franklin, Illinois; Roll: M653_177; Page: 472; Image: 473. Name: Joshua Short Age in 1860: 40 Birth Year: abt 1820 Birthplace: Tennessee Home in 1860: Township 6 S Range 1 E, Franklin, Illinois Gender: Male Post Office: Little Muddy / next page says Crittenden Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Joshua Short 40y m Farmer $0/$115, b.TN Sarah Short 39y f Weaver, b.TN, cannot read or write, Milton W Short 17y m, cripple from white S??ing, b.TN, attd school Elizabeth Short 14y f, b.TN, attd school, Joel Short 13y m, b.TN, attd school, Mary Short 11y/1849 f, b.TN, Jacob Short 9y/1851 m, b.IL Nancy Short 7y f, b.IL George Short 6y m, b.IL Elisha Short 3y m, b.IL William Short 1y m, b.IL and it appears they were in Perry Co IL by 1850- Source Citation: Year: 1850; taken Oct.7th, lines 28-34, 719/725, Census Place: District 7, Perry, Illinois; Roll: M432_124; Page: 384; Image: 94. Name: Joshua Short Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Birth Place: Tennessee Gender: Male Home in 1850(City,County,State): District 7, Perry, Illinois SHORT Joshua 34y m Farmer b.TN " Sarah 32y fe TN " Milton 9y m TN " Elizabeth 7y fe TN " Joel 5y m TN " Mary 4y fe TN " Jacob 2y m TN notice how the children's ages are all off by 2-3 yrs? was 1850 taken after 1850? or 1860 taken before 1860? Nanc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Garbo" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 3:10 AM Subject: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870; Franklin Co.; Short > I would like a look-up for: Joshua Short b. TN abt. 1818; wife Sarah b. > abt. 1820 TN; there should be some children in the home but have no > information regarding them. Thank you for any help. Carol > > Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we > are here, we may as well dance!