Georgette - Thank you for your help. This is my Greatgreatgrandfather Samuel's family. How in the heck they got to Effingham, IL, is beyound me. To our knowledge the family remained in NC during the Civil War. At least one child Robert enlisted in the 47th NC Inf Reg when he was 16 and was captured near the end of the war. Susan, Alfred, and Mary and another son (my greatgrandfather Robert) moved to Jasper County, MO, around 1875. We don't know what happened to Samuel. Also the Thomas listed was may have been another child, but if so, we don't know what happened to him. One of Robert's sons was named Thomas. Any thoughts on how to go about seeing if Samuel died and is buried in the Effingham area? Again thanks for your help. Merle Southern, Rolla, MO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgette Ochs" <tetlin@hotmail.com> To: <IL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:47 PM Subject: RE: [IL-Cen.] Samuel Southern/1870 > >From: "Merle Southern" <mjsouth@rollanet.org> > >The 1870 Effingham Co, IL, Watson Twp, census reportedly shows a Samuel > >Southern/Southard and his wife Susan, and children Thomas, Alfred, and > >Mary. Can someone check to varify this data and show the state and year > >born. I believe this may be my long lost Greatgrandfather and grandmother. > > > Home in 1870: Watson, Effingham, Illinois > Post Office: Watson > Roll: M593_219 > Page: 563 > Image: 571 > Year: 1870 > house visit 147, family visit 150 > Samuel Southern 52 1817 North Carolina White Male farm labor > Susen Southern 45 1824 Virginia White Female keeping house > Thomas Southern 18 1851 North Carolina White Male works on farm > Alpherd Southern 12 1857 North Carolina White Male > Mary Southern 12 1857 North Carolina White Female > none in school > none have parents of foreign birth > > I can't find any of the family in 1880 anywhere in U.S. > > Head of household only index: > 2 in 1850, but neither is even close to his description; > Southern, Samuel Western District, Bienville, LA 1850 > Southern, Samuel Harpersfield, Delaware, NY 1850 > > Southern in NC, 1850: > Southern, Martin W. Unknown Townships, Forsyth, NC 1850 > Southern, George Unknown Townships, Forsyth, NC 1850 > Southern, Reuben Unknown Townships, Forsyth, NC 1850 > Southern, Stephen Unknown Townships, Forsyth, NC 1850 > Southern, Alexander Beaver Island Dist, Stokes, NC 1850 > Southern, Reuben Buck Island Dist., Stokes, NC 1850 > Southern, Biddy J. Peters Creek Dist., Stokes, NC 1850 > Southern, Laudon Shore'S Reed Dist., Stokes, NC 1850 > Southern, James C. Shore'S Reed Dist., Stokes, NC 1850 > Southern, Joshua Shore'S Reed Dist., Stokes, NC 1850 > Southern, William C. Shore'S Reed Dist., Stokes, NC 1850 > Southern, Reuben Shore'S Reed Dist., Stokes, NC 1850 > Southern, Joshua Unknown Townships, Wilkes, NC 1850 > > Southern in IL, 1850: > Southern, Jacob St Charles, Kane, IL 1850 > Southern, William Unknown Townships, Logan, IL 1850 > Southern, William Wakefield District, Shelby, IL 1850 > Southern, Robert Lockport, Will, IL 1850 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN > Premium! > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/mlb&pgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/ > > > ==== IL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > Listowner may be reached at: > > IL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >