Rebecca; this is great; thank you! Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!

Hi Nancy, Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Irving, Montgomery, Illinois; Roll: T9_237; Family History Film: 1254237; Page: 303.1000; Enumeration District: 150; Image: 0606. 17 Jun 1880 85/89 Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace John MIDLETON Self M M W 51 CANADA Occ: Restaurant Fa: ENG Mo: ENG Mary MIDLETON Wife F M W 48 CANADA Occ: Keeping House Fa: CANADA Mo: CANADA Estella MIDLETON Dau F S W 22 CANADA Occ: At Home Fa: CANADA Mo: CANADA Pheba MIDLETON Dau F W 20 CANADA Occ: At Home Fa: CANADA Mo: CANADA Ella MIDLETON Dau F S W 11 IL Occ: At Home Fa: CANADA Mo: CANADA Samuel MIDLETON Son M S W 7 IL Occ: At Home Fa: CANADA Mo: CANADA Bertha MIDLETON Dau F S W 4 IL Fa: CANADA Mo: CANADA ******************* Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Nokomis, Montgomery, Illinois; Roll: T9_237; Family History Film: 1254237; Page: 318.3000; Enumeration District: 151; Image: 0636. 17 Jun 1880 234/242 Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Samuel STRIDER Self M M W 73 VA Occ: Police Justice Fa: --- Mo: --- Annie STRIDER Wife F M W 65 VA Occ: Keeping House Fa: --- Mo: --- Robert MIDDLETON Self M M W 27 CANADA Occ: Teaming Fa: --- Mo: --- Mary MIDDLETON Wife F M W 24 VA Occ: Keeping House Fa: --- Mo: --- Claudia MIDDLETON Dau F S W 2 IL Fa: --- Mo: --- Howard MIDDLETON Son M S W 5M IL Fa: --- Mo: --- Becky [email protected] "The best measure of the future is the record of the past." -Benjamin Franklin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin & Nancy Caldwell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: [IL-Cen] 1880 census for John & Mary Middleton & family > Hello, > > Was wondering if someone could send me the information and posssibly the image for John & Mary Middleton. John was born in Canada about 1829 (parents both born England). They were probably in Montgomery County. Their oldest son was Robert James Middleton who married Mary Strider. > > Thank you in advance, and any help is appreciated. > > Nancy Caldwell > Ontario, Canada > > *********** > > A mailing list for anyone desiring a check of this state's census records for their ancestors. Requests should be as specific as possible and include county name, specific family of interest, and year whenever possible. In addition, those who own or have access to census records and are willing to do lookups are asked to subscribe and assist in responding to queries. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Nancy; thanks. I think that this is the county in which they originated. Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!

Nancy; thanks (again!); they sure did move around! Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!

Rebecca; thank you! Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!

This is a forwarded message From: Charles Webb Becken <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Monday, February 5, 2007, 7:51:00 PM Subject: jeanette ruth zizeck Farrow born about 1907 in Chicago Charles Webb Becken

This is a forwarded message From: Charles Webb Becken <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, February 7, 2007, 8:51:52 AM Subject: Jeanette ruth Zizeck Farrow,Chicago,Illinois Dear sir, Please look up my moth,above, who I never knew due to an early adotion. Thank you for the favor,sincerely,Chuck Charles Webb Becken

Chicago Tribune, Obituary Index, 1988-1997 about Zizek, Jeanette R. Name: Farrow, Jeanette R. Maiden Name: Zizek, Jeanette R. Date: 16-May-93 *************************** Social Security Death Index about Jeanette R. Farrow Name: Jeanette R. Farrow SSN: 337-07-6725 Last Residence: 77379 Spring, Harris, Texas, United States of America Born: 19 Jun 1907 Died: 27 Dec 1992 State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951 ) ************************** Becky [email protected] "The best measure of the future is the record of the past." -Benjamin Franklin ----- Original Message ----- From: "List Administration" <[email protected]> To: "IL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:02 AM Subject: [IL-Cen] Fwd: Jeanette ruth Zizeck Farrow,Chicago,Illinois > This is a forwarded message > > From: Charles Webb Becken <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, February 7, 2007, 8:51:52 AM > Subject: Jeanette ruth Zizeck Farrow,Chicago,Illinois > > > Dear sir, Please look up my moth,above, > who I never knew due to an early adotion. Thank you for the > favor,sincerely,Chuck > > Charles Webb Becken > > > > *********** > > A mailing list for anyone desiring a check of this state's census records for their ancestors. Requests should be as specific as possible and include county name, specific family of interest, and year whenever possible. In addition, those who own or have access to census records and are willing to do lookups are asked to subscribe and assist in responding to queries. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Carol, Here they are in 1900: Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Makanda, Jackson, Illinois; Roll: T623 307; Page: 14B; Enumeration District: 26. 27 Jun 1900 262/263 WEBB, Lazrus S., Head, W, M, Jan 1845, 55, M x 34, IL/TN/KY, Farm laborer, Rents home -----Elizeath J., Wife, W, F, Aug 1845, 54, M x 34, 5/4 children living, TN/TN/TN -----William V., Son, W, M, Jan 1880, 20, single, IL/IL/TN, Farm laborer -----Harely J., Son, W, M, Aug 1889, 12, single, IL/IL/TN, At school ************** There are some World Connect trees on rootsweb for Lazarus and family: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jamethiel&id=I1958 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:af2191&id=I7676 Becky [email protected] "The best measure of the future is the record of the past." -Benjamin Franklin

Hello, Was wondering if someone could send me the information and posssibly the image for John & Mary Middleton. John was born in Canada about 1829 (parents both born England). They were probably in Montgomery County. Their oldest son was Robert James Middleton who married Mary Strider. Thank you in advance, and any help is appreciated. Nancy Caldwell Ontario, Canada

also found in 1880 with four of the children- Source Citation: Year: 1880; taken June 25th, lines 18-23, 216/217, Census Place: Goode, Franklin, Illinois; Roll: T9_207; Family History Film: 1254207; Page: 451.4000; Enumeration District: 11; Image: 0026. Name: Lazarus Webb Home in 1880: Goode, Franklin, Illinois Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to head-of-household: Self (Head) Spouse's name: Elizabeth Father's birthplace: TN Mother's birthplace: KY Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Farmer Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age Lazarus Webb, w m 36y, M, farmer, cannot read or write, b.IL TN KY Elizabeth Webb, w f 34y, wife, M, keeping house, cannot write, b.TN TN TN Mary M. A. Webb, w f 14 7/12y, dau, single, doing housework, attd school, cannot write, b.IL IL TN Joel A. Webb, w m 13 5/12y, son, single, working on farm, attd school, cannot write, b.IL IL TN Casander A. Webb, w f 10 7/12y, dau, single, doing housework, attd school, cannot write, IL IL TN Willie V. Webb, w m 2 5/12y, son single, b.IL IL TN Nanc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Garbo" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:11 AM Subject: [IL-Cen] 1900; unknown county; Webb > Would appreciate a look-up for: Lazarus Webb, b. abt. 1843 IL; wife > Elizabeth b. abt. 1844 TN. They should have at least one child with > them, a son named Harley b. abt. 1890 IL. In 1910 they were in > Williamson Co., but don't know if the were there in 1900. Thank you for > any help. > Carol

Source Citation: Year: 1900; taken June 27th, lines 79-82, 262/263, Census Place: Makanda, Jackson, Illinois; Roll: T623 307; Page: 14B; Enumeration District: 26. Name: Lazrus Webb Home in 1900: Makanda, Jackson, Illinois Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Birthplace: Illinois Relationship to head-of-house: Head Spouse's name: Elizeath J Race: White Occupation: View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Lazrus Webb, h/h, w m b.Jan.1845, 55y, M=34yrs, b.IL TN KY, farm laborer, rents house, Elizeath J Webb, wife w f b.Aug.1845, 54y, M=34yrs, 5 births/4 living, b.TN TN TN William V Webb, son w m b.Jan.1880, 20y single, b.IL IL TN, farm laborer Hardy J Webb, son w m b.Aug.1887, 12y single, b.IL IL TN, at school Nanc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Garbo" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:11 AM Subject: [IL-Cen] 1900; unknown county; Webb > Would appreciate a look-up for: Lazarus Webb, b. abt. 1843 IL; wife > Elizabeth b. abt. 1844 TN. They should have at least one child with > them, a son named Harley b. abt. 1890 IL. In 1910 they were in > Williamson Co., but don't know if the were there in 1900. Thank you for > any help. > Carol >

Carol, I'm still trying to find them in 1900. Here they are in 1880, though: Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Goode, Franklin, Illinois; Roll: T9_207; Family History Film: 1254207; Page: 451.4000; Enumeration District: 11; Image: 0026. 25 Jun 1880 216/217 Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Lazarus WEBB Self M M W 36 IL Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: KY Elizabeth WEBB Wife F M W 34 TN Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: TN Mary M. A. WEBB Dau F S W 14 IL Occ: Doing Housework Fa: IL Mo: TN Joel A. WEBB Son M S W 13 IL Occ: Working On Farm Fa: IL Mo: TN Casander A. WEBB Dau F S W 10 IL Occ: Doing Housework Fa: IL Mo: TN Willie V. WEBB Son M S W 2 IL Fa: IL Mo: TN **************************** Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Township 5 Range 2, Franklin, Illinois; Roll: M593_221; Page: 165; Image: 331. 2 Jul 1870 114/114 WEBB, Lazarus, 25, M, W, Farmer, 300/250, IL -----Elizabeth, 25, F, W, Keeping house, TN -----Mary, 6, F, W, IL -----Joel, 4, M, W, IL -----Cassandra, 1, F, W, IL ***************************** Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Township 5 S Range 4 E, Franklin, Illinois; Roll: M653_177; Page: 587; Image: 588. P.O. Webbs Prairie 6 Aug 1860 455/455 Charles WEBB, 63, M, Farmer, 4000/609, KY Cynthia, 47, F, Housekeeping, KY Simeon, 23, Farming, -/150, IL Lazarus, 17, M, Farming, IL, attd school Julia A., 15, F, Domestic, IL, attd school Caleb, 12, M, IL, attd school Mariah, 10, F, IL, attd school Joshua, 9, M, IL, attd school ****************************** Becky [email protected] "The best measure of the future is the record of the past." -Benjamin Franklin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Garbo" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:11 AM Subject: [IL-Cen] 1900; unknown county; Webb > Would appreciate a look-up for: Lazarus Webb, b. abt. 1843 IL; wife > Elizabeth b. abt. 1844 TN. They should have at least one child with > them, a son named Harley b. abt. 1890 IL. In 1910 they were in > Williamson Co., but don't know if the were there in 1900. Thank you for > any help. > Carol > > Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we > are here, we may as well dance! > > > *********** > > A mailing list for anyone desiring a check of this state's census records for their ancestors. Requests should be as specific as possible and include county name, specific family of interest, and year whenever possible. In addition, those who own or have access to census records and are willing to do lookups are asked to subscribe and assist in responding to queries. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Would appreciate a look-up for: Lazarus Webb, b. abt. 1843 IL; wife Elizabeth b. abt. 1844 TN. They should have at least one child with them, a son named Harley b. abt. 1890 IL. In 1910 they were in Williamson Co., but don't know if the were there in 1900. Thank you for any help. Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!

Wendy; thank you; this is great! Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!

Nancy; thank you very much; this is really helpful! Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!

Looks like this could be Ray in 1930 and his brother Leo is with him- Source Citation: Year: 1930; taken May 2nd, lines 67-71, 184/184, Census Place: Cobden, Union, Illinois; Roll: 563; Page: 17B; Enumeration District: 9; Image: 332.0. Name: Ray Short Home in 1930: Cobden, Union, Illinois Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1897 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's name: Ethel Race: White Household Members: Name Age Ray Short 33y h/h rents $4, m w, 33y M-1st @31y, IL IL IL, laborer/fruit farm, veteran/Yes WW. Ethel Short 22y wife f w 22y M-1st @20y, IL IL IL Eugenie Short 2 6/12y son m w IL Jeraldine Short 7/12y dau f w IL Leo Short 24y brother m w 24y M-1st @21y (no wife listed tho) IL IL IL, laborer/fruit farm, not a veteran, Nanc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Garbo" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1910; Short -found in IN, Starke Co > Nancy; would there happen to be either a Marion Short (female, b. 1890 > IL) or a Raymond Short (b. 1895 in IL) anywhere? All of these people > including Mary & Leo were known to be alive in 1910. Carol > > Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we > are here, we may as well dance! > > > ***********

After seeing that Lazarus Webb was Mary's father, I looked for him in 1910 wondering if the Short famly was with him. I believe I found him but they are not with him. Wendy Grassy Twp, Williamson County, IL 1910 Page 252A E. D. 159, sheet 9A May 2, 1910 159/159 Lassar Webb, head, age 67, first marriage, married 45 years, b IL parents b IL, farm laborer Elsbeth J., wife, age 66, first marriage, 4 of 5 children living, b TN, parents b TN Harley, son, age 20, single, b IL, farm laborer On 2/5/07, Georgette Ochs <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: [email protected] (Carol Garbo) > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1910; Short -found in IN, Starke Co > >Hmmmmm; this raises all sorts of possbilities like "did he leave his > >wife #1?, etc.". Some of the data in this fits but some does not. > >Could you please look for a Mary M Short born abt. 1865 in IL with a son > >named Leo b. 1903 in IL in the 1910 Census. IF I can find her & Leo, I > >can possibly piece together what happened. Thank you. Carol > > > 1920 United States Federal Census about Leo Short > Name: Leo Short > Home in 1920: West Marion, Williamson, Illinois > Age: 14 years > Estimated birth year: abt 1906 > Birthplace: Illinois > Relation to Head of House: Son > Father's Birth Place: Illinois > Mother's name: Mary > Mother's Birth Place: Illinois > Marital Status: Single > Race: White > Sex: Male > Able to read: Yes > Able to Write: Yes > Image: 1093 > Household Members: Name Age > Mary Short 58 > Everett Short 33 > Caude Short 19 > Leo Short 14 > Loran Webb 80 > Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: West Marion, Williamson, > Illinois; > Roll: T625_418; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 180; Image: 1093. > Short, Mary, head, rents, 58, widowed, b. IL, mother b. IL, father b. TN, > Everett, son, 33, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, coal miner, > Eauda?, son, 19, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, coal miner, > Leo, son, 14, single, b. IL, parents b. IL, > Webb, Lazarus, father, 80, widowed, b. IL, parents b. IL, > > >

Hi, Jennifer, This is GREAT, Many Thanks. But the detail is confusing, perhaps you would care to advise. I've just been told by a correspondent on the Missouri List, that both Thomas and his brother William arrived New Orleans sometime 1849. Both were married. Thomas to Mary. Both families must have travelled up the Mississippi, William stopping at St. Louis and Thomas travelling on to Bloomington (or thereabouts). 1850 has Thomas with Mary, no children. 1860 has Thomas with new wife Sarah Jane, with 4 children aged 14, 11, 9 and 2!!!!! Would you agree that the 3 eldest are likely to be Sarah's children from an earlier marriage (although she would only be 16 when the first was born) and that 2 yr old James is the only likely one to be Thomas's? Regards, Fred PS Would anybody on the list be able to send the images - I now have the 1880. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 05 February 2007 22:48 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY Fred, This appears to be the same 1870 family in the 1860... HATREE, THOMAS (1860 U.S. Census) ILLINOIS , MARION, SALEM P O Age: 47, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ENGL Series: M653 Roll: 207 Page: 877 July 28, 1870 Dwelling 833, family 859 Thomas Hatree, 47, m, $300., ENG Sarah J., " , 30, f, OH Flora " , 14, f, IL, attended school Mary B. " , 11, f, IL, " Ellen " , 9, f, IL, " James " , 2, m, IL Jennifer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY > Hello Fred, > > With what Becky found, I came across this in the 1870... > > HARTLY, THOMAS (1870 U.S. Census) > ILLINOIS , LOGAN, EAST LINCOLN TWP > Age: 60, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ENGL > Series: M593 Roll: 248 Page: 152 > June 4, 1870, > > Dwelling 162, family 162, > > Hartly, Thomas, 60, m, w, Brick mason, $0./125.00, ENG, parents of foreign > birth > " , Sarah J., 40, f, w, House Keeper, OH > " , Flora, 23, f, w, Sewing, ILL, father of foreign birth > " , Mary, 21, f, w, At home, ILL, father of foreign birth > " , Helen, 18, f, w, Dom Sevt, ILL, father of foreign birth > Hartly, Jas, 12, m, w, At home, ILL > > > > Jennifer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rebecca Millet" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:08 PM > Subject: Re: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY > > >> Fred, >> >> Here's Thomas and Mary Ann in 1850: >> >> Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Bloomington, McLean, Illinois; >> Roll: M432_117; Page: 6; Image: 392. >> 3 Sep 1850 >> 335/344 >> Thos HARTRY, 37, M, Brick Mason, England >> Mary Ann, 37, 37, F, England >> >> *************** >> Looks like he remarried by 1880: >> >> Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Lincoln, Logan, Illinois; >> Roll: T9_227; Family History Film: 1254227; Page: 126.2000; Enumeration >> District: 42; Image: 0255. >> 3 Jun 1880 >> Logan Street >> 88/88 >> >> Census Place: 2nd Ward, Lincoln, Logan, Illinois >> Source: FHL Film 1254227 National Archives Film T9-0227 Page 126B >> Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace >> Thomas HARTRY Self M M W 68 ENGLAND >> Occ: Laborer Fa: ENGLAND Mo: ENGLAND >> Jane HARTRY Wife F M W 50 OH >> Occ: Keeping House Fa: DE Mo: DE >> >> **************** >> >> >> Becky >> [email protected] >> "The best measure of the future is the record of the past." >> -Benjamin Franklin >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Fred Boulton" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:03 AM >> Subject: [IL-Cen] 1860/1870/1880 HARTRY >> >> >>> Hi, everyone >>> >>> I have a Thomas HARTRY born 1812 Wells, Somerset, baptised 15 Mar 1812. >>> He >>> disappears from public record but may be the 68 yr old Thomas in Logan, >>> Illinois in 1880. The reference is Film 1254227, No T9-0227, Page 126B >>> >>> If anyone can find him on the original sheets for the 1880 or previous >>> years >>> and send me a copy, I would be very grateful. >>> >>> As usual, if I can assist with UK lookups around the Somerset area, >>> please >>> send me a note off-list. >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> >>> Fred Boulton, (BAFHS 5753) >>> Spaxton - 'Centre of the Universe' >>> (see www.spaxton.net and www.quantockonline.co.uk) >>> Researching BOULTON in South Glouc. 18th century >>> PARSONS in Kingston Seymour 18th Century >>> WARREN in South Molton 18th Century >>> HAMLYN in Devon 16th and 17th century >>> CURTIS in Bruton 18th century >>> CLEMENTS in Woolard 18th century >>> ARKWELL in Ampney Crucis 17th century >>> MANSFIELD in Midsomer Norton >>> NOWELL (KNOWLES) in Paulton >>> Also STENHOUSE in Fife, WATKINS, THORNE, PILLINGER, KIBBEY. >>> >>> >>> >>> *********** >>> >>> A mailing list for anyone desiring a check of this state's census >>> records for their ancestors. Requests should be as specific as possible >>> and include county name, specific family of interest, and year whenever >>> possible. In addition, those who own or have access to census records >>> and are willing to do lookups are asked to subscribe and assist in >>> responding to queries. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> *********** >> >> A mailing list for anyone desiring a check of this state's census records >> for their ancestors. Requests should be as specific as possible and >> include county name, specific family of interest, and year whenever >> possible. 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Thank you for your help. Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!