Don, the only messages that I saw from you today was the discussion regarding IRGenWeb name.... Nate -----Original Message----- From: Donkelly [mailto:donkelly@grovenet.net] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 5:43 PM To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IGW] Don---Returned mail: Service unavailable Sheila.......you are the first message from IGW I received today. I will handle your request for Sligo photographs off list. You do mean the pictures taken by my cousin in London? It'll take a little while, but I'll get back soon. Don ================================= Attn.: Nate. I answered question #2 on the list this morning and have received no acknowledgment. Did you receive it? Don =================================

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------ED4F510626A533FAD011E006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Don, My mail is bouncing too. This is to the IGW list which you seem to get. The original which bounced was sent directly to you. Maybe you can make sense of the error messages below. Jack -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:52:28 -0500 (EST) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@smtp.atl.mediaone.net> To: <jreidy@writeme.com> The original message was received at Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:52:26 -0500 (EST) from client37154.atl.mediaone.net [24.88.37.154] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <donkelly@grovenet.net> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to grovenet.net.: >>> MAIL From:<jreidy@writeme.com> <<< 550 Mail from 24.92.1.152 refused by blackhole list. orbs.org or maps.vix.com 554 <donkelly@grovenet.net>... Service unavailable --------------ED4F510626A533FAD011E006 Content-Type: message/delivery-status; name="nsmailA8.TMP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="nsmailA8.TMP" Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp.atl.mediaone.net Received-From-MTA: DNS; client37154.atl.mediaone.net Arrival-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:52:26 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; donkelly@grovenet.net Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; grovenet.net Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Mail from 24.92.1.152 refused by blackhole list. orbs.org or maps.vix.com Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:52:28 -0500 (EST) --------------ED4F510626A533FAD011E006 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="nsmail6G.TMP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="nsmail6G.TMP" Return-Path: <jreidy@writeme.com> Received: from writeme.com (client37154.atl.mediaone.net [24.88.37.154]) by smtp.atl.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA07839 for <donkelly@grovenet.net>; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:52:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38891AC7.557EACCC@writeme.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:49:43 -0500 From: Jack Reidy <jreidy@writeme.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-MOEATL (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: donkelly@grovenet.net Subject: Re: [IGW] bouncing mail References: <001e01bf6480$2cf97280$0b82d2d1@don> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Don, I've seen an exchange between you and Maura and you and Sheila but I've not seen your answer to question 2 or much else from you today. Jack Donkelly wrote: > > Sheila told me her mail to me is bouncing. Her message to me arrived on IGW > list. I answered question #2 this morning on list, but have received no > confirmation copy. Just wondering if you are receiving off list. Don -- Jack Reidy jreidy@writeme.com http://www.geocities.com/jackreidy/ has Limerick & Irish Genealogy, REIDYs, Books, etc http://jackreidy.homepage.com/ --------------ED4F510626A533FAD011E006--

OK, Don, Thank you for the kind offer of the pictures for Sligo, I will put a link to your cousin's page as a thank you for any I use. I tried to send this to you, but your email still is bouncing. I will be unable to answer any of the other emails you have sent. I appologize to the list for this interuption. But I want to thank Don for offering the pictures. Donations for genealogy pages are important. Sheila

Sheila told me her mail to me is bouncing. Her message to me arrived on IGW list. I answered question #2 this morning on list, but have received no confirmation copy. Just wondering if you are receiving off list. Don

You do not need to send me any pictures. But thank you for the offer. I wrote to the list because your email is bouncing. Sheila At 05:42 PM 01/21/2000 -0800, you wrote: >Sheila.......you are the first message from IGW I received today. I will >handle your request for Sligo photographs off list. > >You do mean the pictures taken by my cousin in London? >It'll take a little while, but I'll get back soon. Don > > >================================= >Attn.: Nate. I answered question #2 on the list this morning and have >received no acknowledgment. Did you receive it? Don > >================================= > > > - ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.bright.net/~hhelser/sheila.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~pavenang/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohacogs/ /) http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamckean/ /\___/\ (( http://www.bright.net/~mohrbows/ \`@_@'/ )) The essence of humanity /~(_)~\ {_:Y:.}_// is in the pursuit of the arts! | :=:======II --{_}^-'{_}----------------------------------- \_(~)_/

Sheila.......you are the first message from IGW I received today. I will handle your request for Sligo photographs off list. You do mean the pictures taken by my cousin in London? It'll take a little while, but I'll get back soon. Don ================================= Attn.: Nate. I answered question #2 on the list this morning and have received no acknowledgment. Did you receive it? Don =================================

Sorry to add this to the list but I have tried to repond to your email offer of pictures for Sligo and the email has bounced 2 times. Sheila >X-From_: MAILER-DAEMON@bright.net Fri Jan 21 20:06:31 2000 >Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:06:31 -0500 (EST) >From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@bright.net> >To: <hhelser@bright.net> >Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable >Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) > >The original message was received at Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:06:29 -0500 (EST) >from ashl-max6-cs-25.dial.bright.net [216.201.13.27] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ><donkelly@grovenet.net> > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >... while talking to grovenet.net.: >>>> MAIL From:<hhelser@bright.net> ><<< 550 Mail from 205.212.123.6 refused by blackhole list. orbs.org or maps.vix.com >554 <donkelly@grovenet.net>... Service unavailable >Reporting-MTA: dns; sparticus.bright.net >Received-From-MTA: DNS; ashl-max6-cs-25.dial.bright.net >Arrival-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:06:29 -0500 (EST) > >Final-Recipient: RFC822; donkelly@grovenet.net >Action: failed >Status: 5.0.0 >Remote-MTA: DNS; grovenet.net >Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Mail from 205.212.123.6 refused by blackhole list. orbs.org or maps.vix.com >Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:06:31 -0500 (EST) >Return-Path: <hhelser@bright.net> >Received: from hhelser (ashl-max6-cs-25.dial.bright.net [216.201.13.27]) > by sparticus.bright.net (8.9.3/8.9.3 ComNet Build) with SMTP id UAA22765 > for <donkelly@grovenet.net>; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:06:29 -0500 (EST) >Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000121201826.00a2c800@mail.bright.net> >X-Sender: hhelser@mail.bright.net >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) >Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:18:26 -0500 >To: donkelly@grovenet.net >From: Sheila <hhelser@bright.net> >Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>X-From_: MAILER-DAEMON@bright.net Fri Jan 21 17:03:27 2000 >>Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:03:27 -0500 (EST) >>From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@bright.net> >>To: <hhelser@bright.net> >>Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable >>Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) >> >>The original message was received at Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:03:21 -0500 (EST) >>from ash-cas2-cs-50.dial.bright.net [205.212.125.171] >> >> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- >><donkelly@grovenet.net> >> >> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >>... while talking to grovenet.net.: >>>>> MAIL From:<hhelser@bright.net> >><<< 550 Mail from 205.212.123.7 refused by blackhole list. orbs.org or >maps.vix.com >>554 <donkelly@grovenet.net>... Service unavailable >>Reporting-MTA: dns; sparticus.bright.net >>Received-From-MTA: DNS; ash-cas2-cs-50.dial.bright.net >>Arrival-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:03:21 -0500 (EST) >> >>Final-Recipient: RFC822; donkelly@grovenet.net >>Action: failed >>Status: 5.0.0 >>Remote-MTA: DNS; grovenet.net >>Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Mail from 205.212.123.7 refused by blackhole >list. orbs.org or maps.vix.com >>Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:03:27 -0500 (EST) >>Return-Path: <hhelser@bright.net> >>Received: from hhelser (ash-cas2-cs-50.dial.bright.net [205.212.125.171]) >> by sparticus.bright.net (8.9.3/8.9.3 ComNet Build) with SMTP id RAA19793 >> for <donkelly@grovenet.net>; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:03:21 -0500 (EST) >>Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000121171518.00a29bf0@mail.bright.net> >>X-Sender: hhelser@mail.bright.net >>X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) >>Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:15:18 -0500 >>To: "Donkelly" <donkelly@grovenet.net> >>From: Sheila <hhelser@bright.net> >>Subject: Re: Photos >>In-Reply-To: <017b01bf6386$6622fe00$1f82d2d1@don> >>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >>Thank you, >> >>At 12:25 PM 01/20/2000 -0800, you wrote: >>>My cousin Sean Ruttledge from London gives his permission to use photos he >>>recently took around Sligo on your pages at your pleasure. If you do, please >>>consider linking to his page. >>>I really enjoy your pages....they demonstrate TLC. >>>Thanks >>>Don > >

IRGenWeb was before the NI split. It was all of Ireland. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maura" <mpetzolt2@webtv.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 3:01 PM Subject: [IGW] IRGenWeb > Don, > > I've seen a few times where you , and maybe a few others , refer to > "IRGenWeb". > > I've never seen anything other than spelling out IrelandGenWeb , or > abbreviating it to IGW for this project (other than the brief "new > IrelandGenWeb time). What then is IRGenWeb? Irish Republic? > > I'm not arguing, just asking...... > > > Maura mpetzolt2@webtv.net > *********************************** > Helpful Hints for Successful Searching > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm > To join the SHAMROCK list (for searching in all of Ireland), send only > the word subscribe in the body of an email to > SHAMROCK-L-request@rootsweb.com or SHAMROCK-D-request@rootsweb.com > for the digest version >

I notice that to. The logo on my page before IGW said IRGenWeb, for Ireland Gen Web.......no "new" in it. I guess from your question you never used that logo. Thanks Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maura" <mpetzolt2@webtv.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 3:01 PM Subject: [IGW] IRGenWeb > Don, > > I've seen a few times where you , and maybe a few others , refer to > "IRGenWeb". > > I've never seen anything other than spelling out IrelandGenWeb , or > abbreviating it to IGW for this project (other than the brief "new > IrelandGenWeb time). What then is IRGenWeb? Irish Republic? > > I'm not arguing, just asking...... > > > Maura mpetzolt2@webtv.net > *********************************** > Helpful Hints for Successful Searching > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm > To join the SHAMROCK list (for searching in all of Ireland), send only > the word subscribe in the body of an email to > SHAMROCK-L-request@rootsweb.com or SHAMROCK-D-request@rootsweb.com > for the digest version >

Don, I've seen a few times where you , and maybe a few others , refer to "IRGenWeb". I've never seen anything other than spelling out IrelandGenWeb , or abbreviating it to IGW for this project (other than the brief "new IrelandGenWeb time). What then is IRGenWeb? Irish Republic? I'm not arguing, just asking...... Maura mpetzolt2@webtv.net *********************************** Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm To join the SHAMROCK list (for searching in all of Ireland), send only the word subscribe in the body of an email to SHAMROCK-L-request@rootsweb.com or SHAMROCK-D-request@rootsweb.com for the digest version

We must remember that registering a domain name does not equate to "trade marking" the name. It is simply a domain name. I was personally threatened by Diana by suit when I took over the BritishIslesGenWeb Project (UKGenWeb) for allowing the "New" IrelandGenWeb Project to utilize that name because she claimed ownership of the name. I told her that her claim was baseless in the US due to the fact that she had not registered it as a Trademark. It was shortly after that that she offered up her pages and the domain if she could still have some say in it. I told her thanks but no thanks. The domain has since been picked up by another former member of this project and it's been up and down with different content and under two different names. Most recently it has been offered to me and the project with the caveat that this individual be permitted to host the IGW. I have ignored the request. Nate -----Original Message----- From: Maura [mailto:mpetzolt2@webtv.net] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 3:00 PM To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IGW] A few more bits of info What's been sent to this list is basically true about the situation with Diana, GenTree etc. But one large episode has been left out, one which could still affect us today (in a different way) When Diana left the WGW organization she registered the domain name irelandgenweb.org and started the project over on her own server with only her running it. During this brief period of time when basically nothing was up for hosts is when the GenTree site was started. Anyway, there was a big to-do about her threatening to sue because the project was going to be up and using IrelandGenWeb name when she had it registered etc. Now yes, it would take $$ for someone to sue, and time etc. And we can debate whether someone really "owns" the name, but the fact is that -this- project basically was "forced" (or decided to use in order to stay out of court or for whatever reasons) to become the "new IrelandGenWeb project", to eliminate the problem over the name with Diana. I was privy to the private email exchanges at the time between concerned parties, so I know this is true. Eventually, Diana decided to give up her IGW site, and after trying unsuccessfully to "donate" them to us (only if she could still have control over them), she ended up donating the pages to the FIANNA project on Rootsweb where they remain to this day, unchanged and with many very old links and old hosts names on them. The IrelandGenWeb list which she still ran, was donated to the host of this project at that time, which was Jolene. Then Carol Hepburn had it, and now Nate does. The name "new" disappeared from our current IGW site about the time that Diana folded hers and let the registration lapse. Seemingly, no one had the forethought to pay the renewal fee and pick up the registration. I am not sending this to start a whole other debate about domain names and ownership etc. However, this is what happened before, and what -could- happen again. Domain names are protected very fiercely, and if you think that the person who currently has control of it (after Diana let the registration lapse evidently) wouldn't try and prevent someone from using that name, well, we just may wait and see on that. The WGW has not officially registered/trademarked any IGW names, so if someone does, on a domain name or not, they could cause a serious disruption. As I"ve stated before on here, but not many wanted to believe me (their choice), since the northern counties have been taken out of this project, we're not the same IGW anyway, basically we're two projects, the Republic of Ireland GenWeb and the Northern Ireland GenWeb. We either need to officially change the name of this project to reflect this (and avoid a conflict of interest with the current registered domain name), or unite as we were before and somehow address this domain name issue. You may not think this is a big issue but it is. And it may not be a problem right now, but it could be. Maura mpetzolt2@webtv.net *********************************** Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm To join the SHAMROCK list (for searching in all of Ireland), send only the word subscribe in the body of an email to SHAMROCK-L-request@rootsweb.com or SHAMROCK-D-request@rootsweb.com for the digest version

Well, things are really messed up, but I am confident that working together we can solve the problems. I guess we need to think about names that will work with IGW and still not get us in trouble. What about the old one, IRGenWeb? Could we use that one safely and still be associated with UKGenWeb, whatever? I would like to encourage all of these factions to cooperate. There is strength and experience there. Can old wounds be healed? Have some already been healed? We have much to consider. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maura" <mpetzolt2@webtv.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 2:59 PM Subject: [IGW] A few more bits of info > What's been sent to this list is basically true about the situation with > Diana, GenTree etc. But one large episode has been left out, one which > could still affect us today (in a different way) > > When Diana left the WGW organization she registered the domain name > irelandgenweb.org and started the project over on her own server with > only her running it. During this brief period of time when basically > nothing was up for hosts is when the GenTree site was started. Anyway, > there was a big to-do about her threatening to sue because the project > was going to be up and using IrelandGenWeb name when she had it > registered etc. Now yes, it would take $$ for someone to sue, and time > etc. And we can debate whether someone really "owns" the name, but the > fact is that -this- project basically was "forced" (or decided to use in > order to stay out of court or for whatever reasons) to become the "new > IrelandGenWeb project", to eliminate the problem over the name with > Diana. I was privy to the private email exchanges at the time between > concerned parties, so I know this is true. > > Eventually, Diana decided to give up her IGW site, and after trying > unsuccessfully to "donate" them to us (only if she could still have > control over them), she ended up donating the pages to the FIANNA > project on Rootsweb where they remain to this day, unchanged and with > many very old links and old hosts names on them. The IrelandGenWeb list > which she still ran, was donated to the host of this project at that > time, which was Jolene. Then Carol Hepburn had it, and now Nate does. > The name "new" disappeared from our current IGW site about the time that > Diana folded hers and let the registration lapse. Seemingly, no one had > the forethought to pay the renewal fee and pick up the registration. > > I am not sending this to start a whole other debate about domain names > and ownership etc. However, this is what happened before, and what > -could- happen again. Domain names are protected very fiercely, and if > you think that the person who currently has control of it (after Diana > let the registration lapse evidently) wouldn't try and prevent someone > from using that name, well, we just may wait and see on that. The WGW > has not officially registered/trademarked any IGW names, so if someone > does, on a domain name or not, they could cause a serious disruption. > > As I"ve stated before on here, but not many wanted to believe me (their > choice), since the northern counties have been taken out of this > project, we're not the same IGW anyway, basically we're two projects, > the Republic of Ireland GenWeb and the Northern Ireland GenWeb. We > either need to officially change the name of this project to reflect > this (and avoid a conflict of interest with the current registered > domain name), or unite as we were before and somehow address this domain > name issue. You may not think this is a big issue but it is. And it may > not be a problem right now, but it could be. > > > Maura mpetzolt2@webtv.net > *********************************** > Helpful Hints for Successful Searching > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm > To join the SHAMROCK list (for searching in all of Ireland), send only > the word subscribe in the body of an email to > SHAMROCK-L-request@rootsweb.com or SHAMROCK-D-request@rootsweb.com > for the digest version >

What's been sent to this list is basically true about the situation with Diana, GenTree etc. But one large episode has been left out, one which could still affect us today (in a different way) When Diana left the WGW organization she registered the domain name irelandgenweb.org and started the project over on her own server with only her running it. During this brief period of time when basically nothing was up for hosts is when the GenTree site was started. Anyway, there was a big to-do about her threatening to sue because the project was going to be up and using IrelandGenWeb name when she had it registered etc. Now yes, it would take $$ for someone to sue, and time etc. And we can debate whether someone really "owns" the name, but the fact is that -this- project basically was "forced" (or decided to use in order to stay out of court or for whatever reasons) to become the "new IrelandGenWeb project", to eliminate the problem over the name with Diana. I was privy to the private email exchanges at the time between concerned parties, so I know this is true. Eventually, Diana decided to give up her IGW site, and after trying unsuccessfully to "donate" them to us (only if she could still have control over them), she ended up donating the pages to the FIANNA project on Rootsweb where they remain to this day, unchanged and with many very old links and old hosts names on them. The IrelandGenWeb list which she still ran, was donated to the host of this project at that time, which was Jolene. Then Carol Hepburn had it, and now Nate does. The name "new" disappeared from our current IGW site about the time that Diana folded hers and let the registration lapse. Seemingly, no one had the forethought to pay the renewal fee and pick up the registration. I am not sending this to start a whole other debate about domain names and ownership etc. However, this is what happened before, and what -could- happen again. Domain names are protected very fiercely, and if you think that the person who currently has control of it (after Diana let the registration lapse evidently) wouldn't try and prevent someone from using that name, well, we just may wait and see on that. The WGW has not officially registered/trademarked any IGW names, so if someone does, on a domain name or not, they could cause a serious disruption. As I"ve stated before on here, but not many wanted to believe me (their choice), since the northern counties have been taken out of this project, we're not the same IGW anyway, basically we're two projects, the Republic of Ireland GenWeb and the Northern Ireland GenWeb. We either need to officially change the name of this project to reflect this (and avoid a conflict of interest with the current registered domain name), or unite as we were before and somehow address this domain name issue. You may not think this is a big issue but it is. And it may not be a problem right now, but it could be. Maura mpetzolt2@webtv.net *********************************** Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm To join the SHAMROCK list (for searching in all of Ireland), send only the word subscribe in the body of an email to SHAMROCK-L-request@rootsweb.com or SHAMROCK-D-request@rootsweb.com for the digest version

This will get our minds off of issues for a few minutes. Enjoy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhonda Chesnutt" <jchesnut@sprintmail.com> To: <KELLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 9:09 AM Subject: [KELLEY-L] Geneology searches turn up the wierdest things.... > Just thought I'd share this with my lists for those in the PA area. > This is not a passed on message. I actually got this while researching > the Pennsylvania Railroad for my Family Tree. The website is: > http://kc.pennsyrr.com/photos/images/HorseshoeCurve95b.jpg > Thought I would pass it on to my nearest and dearest. > > Rhonda > > Top Ten Unreported Web Server Error Messages > > >From New Media magazine, June 24, 1996, page 20. > > 10 > 900: This is strictly pay-per-view, and we can already tell you're > an impoverished college student with a bad attitude. Scram! > 9 > 911: Emergency situation! The Webmaster is overcome with the angst > of updating links and has lost the will to continue. Go away! > 8 > 411: If you think you're reading this message because of an error, > you're right, but since there's nobody to call for help, you're hosed. > 7 > 666: You're dialing in from a heathen location. Please go to > http://www.proselytize.com for further instructions. > 6 > 501: Logins from uncool sources such as America Online are not > accepted. > 5 > 910: A Big Fat Hen. (Grow up and get some bandwidth, buddy -- you're > playing with the big boys now!) > 4 > 007: Top secret. (That means you, too, Ms. Moneypenny!) > 3 > 101: Uh, dude, we are, like, majorly apologetic, but the "My > Favorite Bootlegs" site is trashed because of the tragic fact that > you've just maxed out our > three-hit limit. > 2 > 212: Hey, what are you lookin' at anyway? > 1 > 010: Prepare for Netscape to corrupt your hard drive again! > > > > > ==== KELLEY Mailing List ==== > KELLEY Family Most Wanted Webpage > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~donkelly/index.htm > CENSUS LINKS DIRECTORY > http://www.censuslinks.com/directory/ >

Sheila, Thanks for posting it, I found it very fascinating. A special thanks to Paul for providing you the pictures and notes. Nate -----Original Message----- From: Sheila [mailto:hhelser@bright.net] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 7:12 AM To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IGW] have a nice trip I just added these to the Sligo site. I hope you all have a nice trip through County Sligo. After doing all the pictures and stories and putting on the pages, I felt like had been there. I hope you enjoy your trip. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/burnsopen.html Sheila - ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.bright.net/~hhelser/sheila.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~pavenang/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohacogs/ /) http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamckean/ /\___/\ (( http://www.bright.net/~mohrbows/ \`@_@'/ )) The essence of humanity /~(_)~\ {_:Y:.}_// is in the pursuit of the arts! | :=:======II --{_}^-'{_}----------------------------------- \_(~)_/

What do you see as the future of the IGW project within the framework of the World GenWeb project I fully support the IGW remaining an active participant in the BIGW and WGW Projects. While I'm sure we could possible survive on our own. The BIGW/WGW umbrella offers us some cohesion and unity we would not get anywhere else. I see no reason why IGW should leave WGW and as the country coordinator would have IGW continue it's affiliation with BIGW and WGW. Barb Lavin IGW coordinator nominee

Question: How would you work to improve communication with the county hosts? Hello and good morning This is a very tricky question. As the coordinator one has certain obligations. The site maintenance being part of it. Communication being another. However, how does one know when there is enough communication going on and when there is too much? It is a fine line. I do have some thoughts which come to mind: First: as a country coordinator I would make it perfectly clear no flaming, bickering or bullying on the list would be tolerated. It is quite obvious even now what happens when people resort to such tactics. Personal attacks as we've seen in the last few weeks is uncalled for. No one needs to be constantly badgered, or demonized. Obviously there are decisions which a country coordinator can and should make on their own - ex: design of the main web site. However, policy and procedure could be discussed. We could have a county roll call quarterly to see who is still here. When new members come on board, they should be announced. Perhaps a liaison committee could help with the transition process. All of these open communication between the coordinators. However, it is not just the job of the Country Coordinator to keep up the lines of communication. It is the responsibility of each coordinator to LISTEN to everyone and not just hear. It is a 2 way street. Shouting accomplishes nothing but build resentment. No one listens when they hear shouting. Communication is maintained when everyone listens with open ears and eyes. Then and only then can anything of value be accomplished. Barb Lavin IGW Coordinator Nominee Nathan Zipfel wrote: > I have been asked to add to the list of questions that I had to the nominees > the following: > > How would you work to improve communication with the county hosts? > > If anyone has questions to ask the nominees, please feel free to ask, no > need to go through me. > > Nate

Don, the list of eligible voters is on the main IGW page. He'll be providing the list of candidates after nominations close today. The names that have been placed for nomination thus far include: Mary Kelly - accepted Don Kelly - accepted Barb Lavin - accepted Maura Petzolt - declined Nathan Zipfel - declined Nate -----Original Message----- From: Donkelly [mailto:donkelly@grovenet.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 8:15 PM To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IGW] VOTER LIST Has anyone heard from Pascal? He was asked last week to provide a long list of eligible voters and the current list of NC candidates. I haven't heard back and I understand other requests have gone unanswered. Don

I went back through my old emails and found the email from Carol Hepburn with this information summarized by Shelia. I notice in my 'history' this morning I left out a few others who have been here since the Diana Hanson days - Sheila (sligo), MaryK (Tip), and Dennis (Kilkenny). There may be a few others who address I did not recognize. It seems then that the original IGW was part of WGW. My point was WGW was a choice. It goes back a little further than I thought. The was a time of confusion while WGW resurrected the project but on May 18 1998 the hosts we asked if they wished to be part of WGW. I suppose everyone joining after then joined a project that was clearly part of WGW. (Even though they might not have realized it.) Sheila wrote: > > 18 May 1998 > 1.Diana Hanson has resigned officially from the WorldGenWeb > 2.the IrelandGenWeb page back online after it was removed for two weeks > 3.asked Fred Ramont to be coordinator of this site and house it under > hisGenTree Ireland site. Fred has declined. > 4.The main UKGW index and the WGW index will point to the IrelandGenWeb page > 5.as hosts and former hosts, have a choice to be included in the main > index > > Sheila -- Jack Reidy jreidy@writeme.com http://www.geocities.com/jackreidy/ Limerick

I just added these to the Sligo site. I hope you all have a nice trip through County Sligo. After doing all the pictures and stories and putting on the pages, I felt like had been there. I hope you enjoy your trip. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/burnsopen.html Sheila - ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.bright.net/~hhelser/sheila.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~pavenang/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohacogs/ /) http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamckean/ /\___/\ (( http://www.bright.net/~mohrbows/ \`@_@'/ )) The essence of humanity /~(_)~\ {_:Y:.}_// is in the pursuit of the arts! | :=:======II --{_}^-'{_}----------------------------------- \_(~)_/