Yes! Yes! <grin>Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "betsy" <betsy@megalink.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [IGW] site layouts > It's wonderful to see no one arguing! Betsy > > ---------- > > From: Donkelly <donkelly@grovenet.net> > > To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [IGW] site layouts > > Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 11:09 AM > > > > I see no one arguing this point pro or con. Don > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sheila" <hhelser@bright.net> > > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 7:24 PM > > Subject: [IGW] site layouts > > > > > > > People do things differently. Just because something is different does > not > > > make it wrong. Each of the Country hosts through the "ages" of IGW have > > > done the pages differently. I find it interesting and I usually learn a > > new > > > way of design through the different managers. > > > > > > And in another year or so there will be another Country manager and the > > > page will be different again and then in another 15 - 20 years there > will > > > be yet another new person with an even greater knowlege of HTML and > design > > > and that person will not even know our names. > > > > > > Actually there will not be HTML as we know it now......... > > > > > > Céad Míle Fáilte > > > > > > > > > > > >

<quote>I respectfully disagree. Knowing what counties are available for adoption is vitally important. So are the CC's.<end quote> I don't think that's the issue here;the issue here is the country Having the county coordinator's name on the main IGW page is, in a matter of speaking, trivial. While yes I would like to know who the coordinators are - it is not a mandatory necessity. What is necessary is knowing there is a county where one can link to. What is important is what is on the county pages.The coordinators are the backbone of the project - but how the country coordinator makes the main IGW page is strictly personal. While yes knowledge of, needing to know what needs to be adopted is important and relevant - can't the same information be obtained by clicking on the county and seeing an I NEED TO BE ADOPTED SIGN? Does it matter whether I the new coordinator candidate clicks on the link and finds out if the county is up for adoption or whether an adoption sign is seen on the main page? Probably not. However, I'm sure Nate has/had his reasons why he did not do this. BarbL Donkelly wrote: > I respectfully disagree. Knowing what counties are available for adoption is > vitally important. So are the CC's. Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sheila" <hhelser@bright.net> > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 6:49 PM > Subject: Re: [IGW] what? > > > > > The counties were always there just not the names. The county is the > > important part, not the person's name. > > > > >X-From_: IGW-L-request@rootsweb.com Tue Jan 25 21:31:54 2000 > > >Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:29:43 -0800 (PST) > > >From: "Donkelly" <donkelly@grovenet.net> > > >Old-To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Subject: Re: [IGW] what? > > >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:16:10 -0800 > > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 > > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 > > >To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com > > >Resent-From: IGW-L@rootsweb.com > > >Reply-To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com > > >X-Mailing-List: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/351 > > >X-Loop: IGW-L@rootsweb.com > > >Resent-Sender: IGW-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > >I also agree, but it took awhile to get there. Until a short time ago the > > >counties and hosts were not listed on the front page. > > >Don > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Sheila" <hhelser@bright.net> > > >To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 3:40 PM > > >Subject: [IGW] what? > > > > > > > > >> I do not understand why there was discussion about the main page? > > >> What's the beef? > > >> > > >> http://pa-roots.com/ireland/index.html > > >> > > >> I think the main page of the Ireland Genweb looks very nice. It is > clean > > >> and has all the necessary information on it. The side pages are very > good > > >> and explain things in detail. > > >> > > >> I think Nate has done an excellent job with the main site. > > >> > > >> Sheila > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >

Thank you Betsy. What you added goes directly to communication. I am for anything that helps communication. Your point of frustration I share. How many times did I look for a person I could communicate with. It's hard to be new. ----- Original Message ----- From: "betsy" <betsy@megalink.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 5:54 AM Subject: [IGW] Fame? What?, etc. > I am a brand new county host -- a cohost. And perhaps you ought to ask us > new folks OUR opinions. I received a partial list of the hosts a while > back, and I have felt frustrated not to have the rest. > I do not always have the time to go into Each county page to find out who > is attached to what county. I want to feel a part of/member of the IGW > Family. I want to be able to contact another host if I have a question or > two OR to connect with a friendly "Hi" now and then. > As a relatively new amateur genealogist I appreciate a name to contact -- > cyberspace is impersonal enough -- I have even found some cousins and made > new friends who are willing to help me when I need the help. > > I certainly know who Some of you are, but the new folk are being laid back > and choosing not to enter the discussion(s) which could just as well be on > a Chat page. > > So, let's list the hosts and provide an atmosphere of RELATIONSHIP, and > some PEACE!!! > Betsy Webber, cohost County Cork >

Thanks for the support Mary. Don't be too sure about possible relationships. I cam from Connaught so I bet I have a lot of cousins around there. Back to the page, I see best function as being fast to load (maximized) and informational. Researchers need to load the page fast, navigate fast, and move on fast. For the most part, they may be distracted by little dancing green men. <grin> Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary A. Kelly" <mkelly@cyberbeach.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [IGW] voting > Enthusiasm, and honesty are indeed invaluable qualities - but so is the > ability to stand up under pressure, coolheadedness in crisis, people > skills, simple communication skills, willingness to discuss a subject even > if you do not necessarily consider it to be of any importance personally. > The ability to recognize that everyone is entitled to their own opinion > (however silly you may consider it personally) is also very important. > Committment to a project in a non-selfserving way is important to me when > considering a leader. > > Site design? As has been stated previously by yourself - you like > different sites because of the ideas they provide - we are all able to > access and utilize the same ideas and am I sure have our own capabilities > and ideas. I personally am of the opinion that things should be kept low > tech for the benefit of the vast majority of serious researchers that are > interested in genealogical information - not flashy high tech animations or > gimmicks. Not everyone has the benefit of cheap, speedy, high tech access > to the web. Again, we will all have our own opinions about web design, > that is why each of our sites is different - or is there a qualified site > analyist amongst our ranks? > > I support DON KELLY for host (no relation!) > > Mary Kelly > Co. Tip > > > > At 12:01 AM 1/26/00 -0500, Sheila wrote: > >Do we need a politician? > >Or do we need enthusiasm, honesty, and someone experienced in site design > >and maintenence? > > > >Will decisions be made by one or two persons or the group? > >And just what needs to be decided? > > > >Are there others on this mail-list who hide in the branches of the tree? > > > >THE ROAD NOT TAKEN > > > > Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, > > And sorry I could not travel both > > And be one traveler, long I stood > > And looked down one as far as I could > > To where it bent in the undergrowth; > > Then took the other, as just as fair, > > And having perhaps the better claim, > > Because it was grassy and wanted wear; > > Though as for that the passing there > > Had worn them really about the same, > > And both that morning equally lay > > In leaves no step had trodden black. > > Oh, I kept the first for another day! > > Yet knowing how way leads on to way, > > I doubted if I should ever come back. > > I shall be telling this with a sigh > > Somewhere ages and ages hence: > > Two roads diverged in a wood, and I- > > I took the one less traveled by, > > And that has made all the difference. > > *Robert Frost* > > > > > >I support Barb Lavin for IGW Country host. > > > >Sheila > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ > > http://www.bright.net/~hhelser/sheila.html > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/ > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pavenang/ > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohacogs/ > > /) http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamckean/ > > /\___/\ (( http://www.bright.net/~mohrbows/ > > \`@_@'/ )) The essence of humanity /~(_)~\ > > {_:Y:.}_// is in the pursuit of the arts! | :=:======II > >--{_}^-'{_}----------------------------------- \_(~)_/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

My point precisely. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary A. Kelly" <mkelly@cyberbeach.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 4:28 AM Subject: Re: [IGW] fame > Why on earth is this of such importance that it bothers some folks that a > name is listed as hosting a county? I doubt if any of us is looking for > 'fame' - the fact that a name is posted under a county simply indicates > that 'someone' (who really cares who!) is looking after that geographical > area - obviously if no name is listed, then that 'county' can be assumed to > be 'unhosted' and therefore available for adoption should a party be > interested. HOW DID ANY OF YOU BECOME A HOST? Was it because you observed > that your county was unhosted when you went looking for info for your own > research? Or did you receive a message out of the blue from someone asking > if you were interested in volunteering for the job? > > The 'front page' of any GenWeb country site serves as an 'introduction' of > the country to researchers - it is simply saying in way "...Hi, welcome to > our site, the following areas are being looked after by the folks you see > listed...." > > Mary Kelly > Co. Tip > > > At 10:53 PM 1/25/00 -0500, Sheila wrote: > >Can one gain fame from having their name posted on an IGW - WGW main site? > > > >Perhaps a new wave to the future would be to have only the sites listed and > >then have vacant beside the counties needing hosts. > > > >Maybe have a little icon shape of the county beside the county name instead > >of the hosts name. Or maybe a clickable image map of Ireland, county names > >only. > > > >So many possibilites for ÉireGenWeb . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila" <hhelser@bright.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 9:01 PM Subject: [IGW] voting > Do we need a politician? > Or do we need enthusiasm, honesty, and someone experienced in site design > and maintenence? > All of the above > Will decisions be made by one or two persons or the group? > And just what needs to be decided? > Committees have yet to be selected. By-laws will stipulate who does what. > Are there others on this mail-list who hide in the branches of the tree? > I have heard from eleven or twelve. There must be five or six others out there. Nice poem.................these can rapidly turn me to jello. > THE ROAD NOT TAKEN > > Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, > And sorry I could not travel both > And be one traveler, long I stood > And looked down one as far as I could > To where it bent in the undergrowth; > Then took the other, as just as fair, > And having perhaps the better claim, > Because it was grassy and wanted wear; > Though as for that the passing there > Had worn them really about the same, > And both that morning equally lay > In leaves no step had trodden black. > Oh, I kept the first for another day! > Yet knowing how way leads on to way, > I doubted if I should ever come back. > I shall be telling this with a sigh > Somewhere ages and ages hence: > Two roads diverged in a wood, and I- > I took the one less traveled by, > And that has made all the difference. > *Robert Frost* > > > I support Barb Lavin for IGW Country host. > > Sheila > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.bright.net/~hhelser/sheila.html > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pavenang/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohacogs/ > /) http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamckean/ > /\___/\ (( http://www.bright.net/~mohrbows/ > \`@_@'/ )) The essence of humanity /~(_)~\ > {_:Y:.}_// is in the pursuit of the arts! | :=:======II > --{_}^-'{_}----------------------------------- \_(~)_/ > > > > > >

It's wonderful to see no one arguing! Betsy ---------- > From: Donkelly <donkelly@grovenet.net> > To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IGW] site layouts > Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 11:09 AM > > I see no one arguing this point pro or con. Don > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sheila" <hhelser@bright.net> > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 7:24 PM > Subject: [IGW] site layouts > > > > People do things differently. Just because something is different does not > > make it wrong. Each of the Country hosts through the "ages" of IGW have > > done the pages differently. I find it interesting and I usually learn a > new > > way of design through the different managers. > > > > And in another year or so there will be another Country manager and the > > page will be different again and then in another 15 - 20 years there will > > be yet another new person with an even greater knowlege of HTML and design > > and that person will not even know our names. > > > > Actually there will not be HTML as we know it now......... > > > > Céad Míle Fáilte > > > > > > >

I see no one arguing this point pro or con. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila" <hhelser@bright.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 7:24 PM Subject: [IGW] site layouts > People do things differently. Just because something is different does not > make it wrong. Each of the Country hosts through the "ages" of IGW have > done the pages differently. I find it interesting and I usually learn a new > way of design through the different managers. > > And in another year or so there will be another Country manager and the > page will be different again and then in another 15 - 20 years there will > be yet another new person with an even greater knowlege of HTML and design > and that person will not even know our names. > > Actually there will not be HTML as we know it now......... > > Céad Míle Fáilte > > >

I respectfully disagree. Knowing what counties are available for adoption is vitally important. So are the CC's. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila" <hhelser@bright.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [IGW] what? > > The counties were always there just not the names. The county is the > important part, not the person's name. > > >X-From_: IGW-L-request@rootsweb.com Tue Jan 25 21:31:54 2000 > >Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:29:43 -0800 (PST) > >From: "Donkelly" <donkelly@grovenet.net> > >Old-To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > >Subject: Re: [IGW] what? > >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:16:10 -0800 > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 > >To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com > >Resent-From: IGW-L@rootsweb.com > >Reply-To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com > >X-Mailing-List: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/351 > >X-Loop: IGW-L@rootsweb.com > >Resent-Sender: IGW-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > >I also agree, but it took awhile to get there. Until a short time ago the > >counties and hosts were not listed on the front page. > >Don > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Sheila" <hhelser@bright.net> > >To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 3:40 PM > >Subject: [IGW] what? > > > > > >> I do not understand why there was discussion about the main page? > >> What's the beef? > >> > >> http://pa-roots.com/ireland/index.html > >> > >> I think the main page of the Ireland Genweb looks very nice. It is clean > >> and has all the necessary information on it. The side pages are very good > >> and explain things in detail. > >> > >> I think Nate has done an excellent job with the main site. > >> > >> Sheila > >> > >> > >> > > > > >

Welcome aboard Betsy!!! barbL co's Kildare and Mayo betsy wrote: > I am a brand new county host -- a cohost. And perhaps you ought to ask us > new folks OUR opinions. I received a partial list of the hosts a while > back, and I have felt frustrated not to have the rest. > I do not always have the time to go into Each county page to find out who > is attached to what county. I want to feel a part of/member of the IGW > Family. I want to be able to contact another host if I have a question or > two OR to connect with a friendly "Hi" now and then. > As a relatively new amateur genealogist I appreciate a name to contact -- > cyberspace is impersonal enough -- I have even found some cousins and made > new friends who are willing to help me when I need the help. > > I certainly know who Some of you are, but the new folk are being laid back > and choosing not to enter the discussion(s) which could just as well be on > a Chat page. > > So, let's list the hosts and provide an atmosphere of RELATIONSHIP, and > some PEACE!!! > Betsy Webber, cohost County Cork

Ya know Mary I never said we didn't need a vacant sign. In fact, I was never asked. What each web designer does is up to them. Nate had his reasons not to do it. That was his choice. I'd like to bring up one other point. Personalities were brought into issue here. Staying cool under pressure and not making topics off limits -was the phrase. There is a big difference between making topics off limits and asking to change the subject for the sake of sanity. I was doing the latter and it was interpreted I was doing the former. When people ask to change the topic for awhile and let emotions die down - it doesn't mean the topic is off limits. It means lets change the conversation some can all remain level headed, and return later when we can see clearly. Nothing more or less. Staying cool under pressure - does that include people going out of their way e-mailing the person privately and harassing them? There is a difference between between being open and hiding. There is a difference between honesty and integrity. And not saying a word and privately e-mailing people and telling them they are watching them, have no class etc. This is uncalled for behaviour and no one given these circumstances would remain cool all the time. BarbL and I support myself <LOL> Mary A. Kelly wrote: > Vacant what? An icon may not be a bad idea at that. But at least you do > admit now that you need something there in the first place to get across > the idea that not all counties are hosted. > > Furthermore, many researchers are not aware that there is a separate > Republic of Ireland and a Northern Ireland - just wondering how many of the > public may not be aware of our country's Irish spelling of the name - Eire > could be confusing to many researchers? > > Mary Kelly > > At 10:45 PM 1/25/00 -0500, irishsun@ptdprolog.net wrote: > >oooooooo Sheila they are wonderful ideas!! > >Including the name change - LOVE IT!!!!! > > > >Sheila wrote: > > > >> Can one gain fame from having their name posted on an IGW - WGW main site? > >> > >> Perhaps a new wave to the future would be to have only the sites listed and > >> then have vacant beside the counties needing hosts. > >> > >> Maybe have a little icon shape of the county beside the county name instead > >> of the hosts name. Or maybe a clickable image map of Ireland, county names > >> only. > >> > >> So many possibilites for ÉireGenWeb . > > > > > > > > > >

I am a brand new county host -- a cohost. And perhaps you ought to ask us new folks OUR opinions. I received a partial list of the hosts a while back, and I have felt frustrated not to have the rest. I do not always have the time to go into Each county page to find out who is attached to what county. I want to feel a part of/member of the IGW Family. I want to be able to contact another host if I have a question or two OR to connect with a friendly "Hi" now and then. As a relatively new amateur genealogist I appreciate a name to contact -- cyberspace is impersonal enough -- I have even found some cousins and made new friends who are willing to help me when I need the help. I certainly know who Some of you are, but the new folk are being laid back and choosing not to enter the discussion(s) which could just as well be on a Chat page. So, let's list the hosts and provide an atmosphere of RELATIONSHIP, and some PEACE!!! Betsy Webber, cohost County Cork

Enthusiasm, and honesty are indeed invaluable qualities - but so is the ability to stand up under pressure, coolheadedness in crisis, people skills, simple communication skills, willingness to discuss a subject even if you do not necessarily consider it to be of any importance personally. The ability to recognize that everyone is entitled to their own opinion (however silly you may consider it personally) is also very important. Committment to a project in a non-selfserving way is important to me when considering a leader. Site design? As has been stated previously by yourself - you like different sites because of the ideas they provide - we are all able to access and utilize the same ideas and am I sure have our own capabilities and ideas. I personally am of the opinion that things should be kept low tech for the benefit of the vast majority of serious researchers that are interested in genealogical information - not flashy high tech animations or gimmicks. Not everyone has the benefit of cheap, speedy, high tech access to the web. Again, we will all have our own opinions about web design, that is why each of our sites is different - or is there a qualified site analyist amongst our ranks? I support DON KELLY for host (no relation!) Mary Kelly Co. Tip At 12:01 AM 1/26/00 -0500, Sheila wrote: >Do we need a politician? >Or do we need enthusiasm, honesty, and someone experienced in site design >and maintenence? > >Will decisions be made by one or two persons or the group? >And just what needs to be decided? > >Are there others on this mail-list who hide in the branches of the tree? > >THE ROAD NOT TAKEN > > Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, > And sorry I could not travel both > And be one traveler, long I stood > And looked down one as far as I could > To where it bent in the undergrowth; > Then took the other, as just as fair, > And having perhaps the better claim, > Because it was grassy and wanted wear; > Though as for that the passing there > Had worn them really about the same, > And both that morning equally lay > In leaves no step had trodden black. > Oh, I kept the first for another day! > Yet knowing how way leads on to way, > I doubted if I should ever come back. > I shall be telling this with a sigh > Somewhere ages and ages hence: > Two roads diverged in a wood, and I- > I took the one less traveled by, > And that has made all the difference. > *Robert Frost* > > >I support Barb Lavin for IGW Country host. > >Sheila > >------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.bright.net/~hhelser/sheila.html > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pavenang/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohacogs/ > /) http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamckean/ > /\___/\ (( http://www.bright.net/~mohrbows/ > \`@_@'/ )) The essence of humanity /~(_)~\ > {_:Y:.}_// is in the pursuit of the arts! | :=:======II >--{_}^-'{_}----------------------------------- \_(~)_/ > > > > > > > >

Vacant what? An icon may not be a bad idea at that. But at least you do admit now that you need something there in the first place to get across the idea that not all counties are hosted. Furthermore, many researchers are not aware that there is a separate Republic of Ireland and a Northern Ireland - just wondering how many of the public may not be aware of our country's Irish spelling of the name - Eire could be confusing to many researchers? Mary Kelly At 10:45 PM 1/25/00 -0500, irishsun@ptdprolog.net wrote: >oooooooo Sheila they are wonderful ideas!! >Including the name change - LOVE IT!!!!! > >Sheila wrote: > >> Can one gain fame from having their name posted on an IGW - WGW main site? >> >> Perhaps a new wave to the future would be to have only the sites listed and >> then have vacant beside the counties needing hosts. >> >> Maybe have a little icon shape of the county beside the county name instead >> of the hosts name. Or maybe a clickable image map of Ireland, county names >> only. >> >> So many possibilites for ÉireGenWeb . > > > > >

Why on earth is this of such importance that it bothers some folks that a name is listed as hosting a county? I doubt if any of us is looking for 'fame' - the fact that a name is posted under a county simply indicates that 'someone' (who really cares who!) is looking after that geographical area - obviously if no name is listed, then that 'county' can be assumed to be 'unhosted' and therefore available for adoption should a party be interested. HOW DID ANY OF YOU BECOME A HOST? Was it because you observed that your county was unhosted when you went looking for info for your own research? Or did you receive a message out of the blue from someone asking if you were interested in volunteering for the job? The 'front page' of any GenWeb country site serves as an 'introduction' of the country to researchers - it is simply saying in way "...Hi, welcome to our site, the following areas are being looked after by the folks you see listed...." Mary Kelly Co. Tip At 10:53 PM 1/25/00 -0500, Sheila wrote: >Can one gain fame from having their name posted on an IGW - WGW main site? > >Perhaps a new wave to the future would be to have only the sites listed and >then have vacant beside the counties needing hosts. > >Maybe have a little icon shape of the county beside the county name instead >of the hosts name. Or maybe a clickable image map of Ireland, county names >only. > >So many possibilites for ÉireGenWeb . > > > > > > >

Thank you for reinstating the hosts' names on the main page - now potential volunteers again know immediately that a county is unhosted and available for adoption and may spark their interest! I see nothing wrong with posting the hosts' name - the more info posted in a clear and concise manner surely the more beneficial it is to everyone that ever downloads the page. When I go to any GenWeb site looking for information on my families - I like to know whether the area is hosted, or may otherwise just have the most basic of info provided if unhosted - unhosted sites often contain very little pertinent information. Mary Kelly At 10:07 PM 1/25/00 -0500, irishsun@ptdprolog.net wrote: >I agree with Sheila. The reason we are here is for the counties not >the coordinators. While yes they are the backbone - it's not >a mandatory necessity. > >barbL > >Sheila wrote: > >> The counties were always there just not the names. The county is the >> important part, not the person's name. >> >> >X-From_: IGW-L-request@rootsweb.com Tue Jan 25 21:31:54 2000 >> >Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:29:43 -0800 (PST) >> >From: "Donkelly" <donkelly@grovenet.net> >> >Old-To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> >> >Subject: Re: [IGW] what? >> >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:16:10 -0800 >> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >> >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 >> >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 >> >To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com >> >Resent-From: IGW-L@rootsweb.com >> >Reply-To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com >> >X-Mailing-List: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/351 >> >X-Loop: IGW-L@rootsweb.com >> >Resent-Sender: IGW-L-request@rootsweb.com >> > >> >I also agree, but it took awhile to get there. Until a short time ago the >> >counties and hosts were not listed on the front page. >> >Don >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Sheila" <hhelser@bright.net> >> >To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> >> >Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 3:40 PM >> >Subject: [IGW] what? >> > >> > >> >> I do not understand why there was discussion about the main page? >> >> What's the beef? >> >> >> >> http://pa-roots.com/ireland/index.html >> >> >> >> I think the main page of the Ireland Genweb looks very nice. It is clean >> >> and has all the necessary information on it. The side pages are very good >> >> and explain things in detail. >> >> >> >> I think Nate has done an excellent job with the main site. >> >> >> >> Sheila >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > > >

Do we need a politician? Or do we need enthusiasm, honesty, and someone experienced in site design and maintenence? Will decisions be made by one or two persons or the group? And just what needs to be decided? Are there others on this mail-list who hide in the branches of the tree? THE ROAD NOT TAKEN Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, And sorry I could not travel both And be one traveler, long I stood And looked down one as far as I could To where it bent in the undergrowth; Then took the other, as just as fair, And having perhaps the better claim, Because it was grassy and wanted wear; Though as for that the passing there Had worn them really about the same, And both that morning equally lay In leaves no step had trodden black. Oh, I kept the first for another day! Yet knowing how way leads on to way, I doubted if I should ever come back. I shall be telling this with a sigh Somewhere ages and ages hence: Two roads diverged in a wood, and I- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. *Robert Frost* I support Barb Lavin for IGW Country host. Sheila - ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.bright.net/~hhelser/sheila.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~pavenang/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohacogs/ /) http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamckean/ /\___/\ (( http://www.bright.net/~mohrbows/ \`@_@'/ )) The essence of humanity /~(_)~\ {_:Y:.}_// is in the pursuit of the arts! | :=:======II --{_}^-'{_}----------------------------------- \_(~)_/

Can one gain fame from having their name posted on an IGW - WGW main site? Perhaps a new wave to the future would be to have only the sites listed and then have vacant beside the counties needing hosts. Maybe have a little icon shape of the county beside the county name instead of the hosts name. Or maybe a clickable image map of Ireland, county names only. So many possibilites for ÉireGenWeb .

oooooooo Sheila they are wonderful ideas!! Including the name change - LOVE IT!!!!! Sheila wrote: > Can one gain fame from having their name posted on an IGW - WGW main site? > > Perhaps a new wave to the future would be to have only the sites listed and > then have vacant beside the counties needing hosts. > > Maybe have a little icon shape of the county beside the county name instead > of the hosts name. Or maybe a clickable image map of Ireland, county names > only. > > So many possibilites for ÉireGenWeb .

People do things differently. Just because something is different does not make it wrong. Each of the Country hosts through the "ages" of IGW have done the pages differently. I find it interesting and I usually learn a new way of design through the different managers. And in another year or so there will be another Country manager and the page will be different again and then in another 15 - 20 years there will be yet another new person with an even greater knowlege of HTML and design and that person will not even know our names. Actually there will not be HTML as we know it now......... Céad Míle Fáilte