It was a nice casual on-list discussion for awhile today until you reverted to being a loose cannon again. You owe some apologies Barbara, to Maura and to Me for starters. Then you can apologize to everyone else who tried to participate in the discussion today. I am just fed up with your shabby, mud-slinging ways. Don

--WebTV-Mail-28479-195 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Well, yahoo is confused. I never hosted Kildare. If my name is on that page, which I still have been unable to access, I don't know why. The only -possible- reason is that it might be an old page of a former member here who put something up which I did not know of. All I can say about that is "consider the source". But I would like to ask this of you.. is there some reason you are digging up old pages, first you bring up something from two years or so ago that you found Don's name on, and now somehow you find something supposedly with my name on it and are "concerned"? If you are the Kildare host and its on that directory, and it bothers you, just delete it. You may remember others had access to all the passwords for all the sites in the past, and anyone with a password can put up or fool with a page at their will. Personally, I've changed my password not long ago to prevent someone who previously had all , or nearly all, the passwords to all the county sites from fooling with anything. Others who inherited sites might be wise to do the same. Maura --WebTV-Mail-28479-195 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.121) by storefull-116.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:28:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailsorter-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id 1DB1B6A; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:28:22 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: mpetzolt2@webtv.net Received: from mail.ptd.net (mail2.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.66]) by mailsorter-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with SMTP id DFB8417E for <mpetzolt2@webtv.net>; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:28:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25373 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2000 00:28:03 -0000 Received: from du11069.haz.ptd.net (HELO ptdprolog.net) (204.186.11.69) by mail.ptd.net with SMTP; 27 Jan 2000 00:28:03 -0000 Message-ID: <388F90A9.4DFD88CE@ptdprolog.net> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:26:17 -0500 From: irishsun@ptdprolog.net Reply-To: irishsun@ptdprolog.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maura <mpetzolt2@webtv.net> Cc: IGW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: KILDARE References: <1134-388F8B6C-693@storefull-116.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually Maura I don't have tyour email address on hand so e-mailing you to to the list IS the only way for me to communicate Let me refresh your memory That page now deleted - was up for adoption by you. While roaming thru the pages of Yahoo - i found this page of yours Please adopt me - was courious what it was and why it was there Since it had your name attached - did you at one time coordinate Kildare?? Yahoo apparently thinks you did. BarbL Maura wrote: > Barbara, > > First of all, if you want to ask me a specific question, I suggest you > email me privately instead of "announcing" it to the whole list. > > I have no idea what that page is. Couldn't access it, when I typed in > ~irlkid I got your page. > > I've never hosted Kildare so I have no idea why you are directing this > at me. > > Maura mpetzolt2@webtv.net > *********************************** > Helpful Hints for Successful Searching > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm > To join the SHAMROCK list (for searching in all of Ireland), send only > the word subscribe in the body of an email to > SHAMROCK-L-request@rootsweb.com or SHAMROCK-D-request@rootsweb.com > for the digest version --WebTV-Mail-28479-195--

Actually Maura I don't have tyour email address on hand so e-mailing you to to the list IS the only way for me to communicate Let me refresh your memory That page now deleted - was up for adoption by you. While roaming thru the pages of Yahoo - i found this page of yours Please adopt me - was courious what it was and why it was there Since it had your name attached - did you at one time coordinate Kildare?? Yahoo apparently thinks you did. BarbL Maura wrote: > Barbara, > > First of all, if you want to ask me a specific question, I suggest you > email me privately instead of "announcing" it to the whole list. > > I have no idea what that page is. Couldn't access it, when I typed in > ~irlkid I got your page. > > I've never hosted Kildare so I have no idea why you are directing this > at me. > > Maura mpetzolt2@webtv.net > *********************************** > Helpful Hints for Successful Searching > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm > To join the SHAMROCK list (for searching in all of Ireland), send only > the word subscribe in the body of an email to > SHAMROCK-L-request@rootsweb.com or SHAMROCK-D-request@rootsweb.com > for the digest version

Sorry Don Nate did no such thing- it was an honest question. Wanted to know if it was discussed and if so why nothing happened. If not wanted to know why not. Since Nate was the temp, and if what you said occured. I agree with Nate it should be left to the new Country Coordinator to discuss with the coordinators. Dispite what you may think Don, I can think for myself. Thankyou for proving my point BarbL Donkelly wrote: > By-laws were discussed by the leadership team. Nate wanted to leave it for > the new NC team to write. It was suggested by Nate and I recall no > objections. > > Now Nate explained everything to you Barbara, so if you have a point that > will help us in the present, please make it so we will know how to answer. > > Don > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <irishsun@ptdprolog.net> > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 9:49 AM > Subject: Re: [IGW] voting > > > No Sheila we don't need a politician - we need someone with honesty and > > integrity. > > We need someone who will lead this project to where it should be instead > of > > having > > a personal agenda. We need someone who will listen and deal with issues > by > > prioritizing them. > > > > Not real sure if we need by-laws - but......... wasn't this issue brought > to > > the leadership team? > > If so why didn't they work on them?? If not then why not?? I think before > we > > worry > > about bylaws/policies we need to first concern ourselves with the welfare > of > > the project > > The fact some people have a need to attack, argue and contort some peoples > > words. > > That too me is far more important right now. We need to set up honest > > communication, > > where people- even the verbal - can say something and not be blasted. > > > > The greivance committee pretty much said no "help" for at least 5-6 > months - so > > > > for the temporary being I suppose one could infer it means only one for > now. > > But - I suppose given enough time perhaps a committee - elected by the > > coordiantors > > themselves would be the best avenue. > > > > I'm sure several people are not speaking for fear they will be verbally > hung on > > their words. > > That's a shame. If I wasn't running for NC I probably would hit the > delete key > > as many have/are > > doing. > > > > And BTW: Sheila that is one of my favorite Robert Frost poems > > > > BarbL > > > > Donkelly wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sheila" <hhelser@bright.net> > > > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 9:01 PM > > > Subject: [IGW] voting

Barbara, First of all, if you want to ask me a specific question, I suggest you email me privately instead of "announcing" it to the whole list. I have no idea what that page is. Couldn't access it, when I typed in ~irlkid I got your page. I've never hosted Kildare so I have no idea why you are directing this at me. Maura mpetzolt2@webtv.net *********************************** Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm To join the SHAMROCK list (for searching in all of Ireland), send only the word subscribe in the body of an email to SHAMROCK-L-request@rootsweb.com or SHAMROCK-D-request@rootsweb.com for the digest version

Sorry if I offended. I assumed you wanted an answer when you ask a question, or comments to your comments. I don't understand the issue here. I don't understand the comments about voting. Your vote is your voice. We were thinking the blackhole issue came from bright.net, but didn't get far enough to know. Others who had the problem (Jack for example) came through bright.net. Glad it is being fixed. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila" <hhelser@bright.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 9:58 AM Subject: [IGW] comment > I assume, after observation, that whenever anyone, posts a message, it is > going to be disected and fed back to the list with comments under each > sentence. > I personally posed some of my thoughts just as a list participant not > needing to have my sentences critiqued. I am not running for an office. I > will refrain from further comments. This is my choice. I wish you all well. > > I would like to let Don know I have taken care of the blackhole problem, I > have forwarded it to the proper authorites. They will handle it from here. > > There would not be an election if there were not at least 2 nominees. > Having a choice is a good thing. > > A decision "not to vote" is a vote. > Not voting is voting. > > Whatever, or whoever the outcome, I will continue to do the best job I can > maintaining the Sligo WGW site. > > Good luck, > Céad Míle Fáilte, > > Sheila > > >

By-laws were discussed by the leadership team. Nate wanted to leave it for the new NC team to write. It was suggested by Nate and I recall no objections. Now Nate explained everything to you Barbara, so if you have a point that will help us in the present, please make it so we will know how to answer. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <irishsun@ptdprolog.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [IGW] voting > No Sheila we don't need a politician - we need someone with honesty and > integrity. > We need someone who will lead this project to where it should be instead of > having > a personal agenda. We need someone who will listen and deal with issues by > prioritizing them. > > Not real sure if we need by-laws - but......... wasn't this issue brought to > the leadership team? > If so why didn't they work on them?? If not then why not?? I think before we > worry > about bylaws/policies we need to first concern ourselves with the welfare of > the project > The fact some people have a need to attack, argue and contort some peoples > words. > That too me is far more important right now. We need to set up honest > communication, > where people- even the verbal - can say something and not be blasted. > > The greivance committee pretty much said no "help" for at least 5-6 months - so > > for the temporary being I suppose one could infer it means only one for now. > But - I suppose given enough time perhaps a committee - elected by the > coordiantors > themselves would be the best avenue. > > I'm sure several people are not speaking for fear they will be verbally hung on > their words. > That's a shame. If I wasn't running for NC I probably would hit the delete key > as many have/are > doing. > > And BTW: Sheila that is one of my favorite Robert Frost poems > > BarbL > > Donkelly wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sheila" <hhelser@bright.net> > > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 9:01 PM > > Subject: [IGW] voting

Two questions??. This is the first time I recall having six county coordinators participate in one discussion on the same time/day. The happy point is, I am encouraging broader participation by hosts who don't normally express their voices on the list. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <irishsun@ptdprolog.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [IGW] fame > Six hosts at a time?? > > BarbL > > Donkelly wrote: > > > Yes Mary. Thanks. I thought we were all on list. Don't recall seeing six > > hosts on at one time before. How neat? Don > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <irishsun@ptdprolog.net> > > To: "Donkelly" <donkelly@grovenet.net> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 8:30 AM > > Subject: Re: [IGW] fame > > > > > Don, > > > you meant this for the list right?? > > > > > > Donkelly wrote: > > > > > > > Well, I keep thinking of having a historian keep the history of this > > > > project, on a back page somewhere. Having all of the names there ever > > were > > > > suits my since of detail and satisfies my urge to honor. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <irishsun@ptdprolog.net> > > > > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 7:45 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [IGW] fame > > > > > > > > > oooooooo Sheila they are wonderful ideas!! > > > > > Including the name change - LOVE IT!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > Sheila wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Can one gain fame from having their name posted on an IGW - WGW main > > > > site? > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps a new wave to the future would be to have only the sites > > listed > > > > and > > > > > > then have vacant beside the counties needing hosts. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe have a little icon shape of the county beside the county name > > > > instead > > > > > > of the hosts name. Or maybe a clickable image map of Ireland, county > > > > names > > > > > > only. > > > > > > > > > > > > So many possibilites for ÉireGenWeb . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

That isn't a rule of course, but it is an aesthetic trade-off. I favor small quick loading graphics, but overall speed is really important. Lastly, what are your collective thoughts on the pop-up instructions for adoption? Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <irishsun@ptdprolog.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [IGW] fame > I thought you were for keeping the graphics to a min?? > BarbL > > Donkelly wrote: > > > I like all of these. How about a little house beside each county, green if > > occupied and red if vacant. Click on a vacant house and pop-up adoption > > instructions.

They idea came three years ago with Kentucky's propensity to summarize history on their pages, and a personal preference to read a brief history of counties and countries. Then recently USGW has been kicking around the idea of having a historian to update history of the project as it evolves. Is it genealogy? No. Is it color? Yes. Are people interested in those kinds of facts? Well, I am, but I suspect many aren't. Given all, what would it hurt if it was on the back page? People could find it if interested and ignore it if not. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <irishsun@ptdprolog.net> To: <> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [IGW] fame > Why would you keep the history of the project? > Do the new coordinators need it? Or the researchers?? > > BarbL > > Donkelly wrote: > > > Well, I keep thinking of having a historian keep the history of this > > project, on a back page somewhere. Having all of the names there ever were > > suits my since of detail and satisfies my urge to honor. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <irishsun@ptdprolog.net> > > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 7:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [IGW] fame > > > > > oooooooo Sheila they are wonderful ideas!! > > > Including the name change - LOVE IT!!!!! > > > > > > Sheila wrote: > > > > > > > Can one gain fame from having their name posted on an IGW - WGW main > > site? > > > > > > > > Perhaps a new wave to the future would be to have only the sites listed > > and > > > > then have vacant beside the counties needing hosts. > > > > > > > > Maybe have a little icon shape of the county beside the county name > > instead > > > > of the hosts name. Or maybe a clickable image map of Ireland, county > > names > > > > only. > > > > > > > > So many possibilites for ÉireGenWeb . > > > > > > > > > > > >

In a message dated 1/26/2000 4:28:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, irishsun@ptdprolog.net writes: << I don't have tyour email address on hand so e-mailing you to to the list IS the only way for me to communicate >> I know none of us thinks of the IGW homepage as being too helpful in the past about IDing vacancies and for contacting hosts ... but now VOILA it does have that convenience for us ... the ability to click on a contact to the hosts! (via email address or name, still a rose that smells as sweet <G>) Kinda proves the point doesnt it? Re: Kildare.... bass fishing in the Mobile river are we? <G> The acorn does not fall far from the tree does it. maryt co kerry iregenweb

There are significance differences of opinion whether to list the county host name next to the county name on the main page. I therefore believe we can discuss this further and, in particular, be responsive to the majority of the coordinators. Any better suggestions? Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <irishsun@ptdprolog.net> To: <> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [IGW] what? Don said: > <quote> I'm glad you stated where your priorities are Barb. Without hosts, you > have > no pages, all you have is bulletin boards <quote> > ======================================== > Actually Don that's not what I was saying > I was saying: the county host is here for the county - not the country > I, the county coordinator, am not here to see my name in lights on the country > page - I am > here to get the information to the researcher. That's my main purpose. Whether > it be in > Ireland or Pa. If the coordinator puts my name in lights is strictly up to > them. > People will visit my counties whether they see me on the main page or not. > > BarbL

Maura why is this page up? http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlkid/Kildare.html BarbL

Don, Exactly when do you think the researcher will be accessing the main page? And if they are moving on quickly - will they really be interested in seeing the coordinators name ? Since that would possibly require a table - which for some people loads sllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooowwwwwwwllllllllllllllllyyyyyyy which takes away from the idea of fast. You brought up the idea of little green and red houses - won't this add to the loading time?? So they in themselves defeat the purpose of in and out. I was under the impression people go to the main page maybe once or twice- maybe a few more times. But as a whole they bookmark the county page so they can go right to their resource. Which means they by-pass the main page. Sometimes they return to ask the coordinator a question or look for generic links but as a whole the main page is visited on the average less then the county page. So fast, fast, fast may not be what they need. BarbL Donkelly wrote: > Thanks for the support Mary. Don't be too sure about possible relationships. > I cam from Connaught so I bet I have a lot of cousins around there. > > Back to the page, I see best function as being fast to load (maximized) and > informational. > Researchers need to load the page fast, navigate fast, and move on fast. For > the most part, they may be distracted by little dancing green men. <grin> > Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary A. Kelly" <mkelly@cyberbeach.net> > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 4:54 AM > Subject: Re: [IGW] voting > > > Enthusiasm, and honesty are indeed invaluable qualities - but so is the > > ability to stand up under pressure, coolheadedness in crisis, people > > skills, simple communication skills, willingness to discuss a subject even > > if you do not necessarily consider it to be of any importance personally. > > The ability to recognize that everyone is entitled to their own opinion > > (however silly you may consider it personally) is also very important. > > Committment to a project in a non-selfserving way is important to me when > > considering a leader. > > > > Site design? As has been stated previously by yourself - you like > > different sites because of the ideas they provide - we are all able to > > access and utilize the same ideas and am I sure have our own capabilities > > and ideas. I personally am of the opinion that things should be kept low > > tech for the benefit of the vast majority of serious researchers that are > > interested in genealogical information - not flashy high tech animations > or > > gimmicks. Not everyone has the benefit of cheap, speedy, high tech access > > to the web. Again, we will all have our own opinions about web design, > > that is why each of our sites is different - or is there a qualified site > > analyist amongst our ranks? > > > > I support DON KELLY for host (no relation!) > > > > Mary Kelly > > Co. Tip > > > > > > > > At 12:01 AM 1/26/00 -0500, Sheila wrote: > > >Do we need a politician? > > >Or do we need enthusiasm, honesty, and someone experienced in site design > > >and maintenence? > > > > > >Will decisions be made by one or two persons or the group? > > >And just what needs to be decided? > > > > > >Are there others on this mail-list who hide in the branches of the tree? > > > > > >THE ROAD NOT TAKEN > > > > > > Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, > > > And sorry I could not travel both > > > And be one traveler, long I stood > > > And looked down one as far as I could > > > To where it bent in the undergrowth; > > > Then took the other, as just as fair, > > > And having perhaps the better claim, > > > Because it was grassy and wanted wear; > > > Though as for that the passing there > > > Had worn them really about the same, > > > And both that morning equally lay > > > In leaves no step had trodden black. > > > Oh, I kept the first for another day! > > > Yet knowing how way leads on to way, > > > I doubted if I should ever come back. > > > I shall be telling this with a sigh > > > Somewhere ages and ages hence: > > > Two roads diverged in a wood, and I- > > > I took the one less traveled by, > > > And that has made all the difference. > > > *Robert Frost* > > > > > > > > >I support Barb Lavin for IGW Country host. > > > > > >Sheila > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ > > > http://www.bright.net/~hhelser/sheila.html > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/ > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pavenang/ > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohacogs/ > > > /) http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamckean/ > > > /\___/\ (( http://www.bright.net/~mohrbows/ > > > \`@_@'/ )) The essence of humanity /~(_)~\ > > > {_:Y:.}_// is in the pursuit of the arts! | :=:======II > > >--{_}^-'{_}----------------------------------- \_(~)_/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I assume, after observation, that whenever anyone, posts a message, it is going to be disected and fed back to the list with comments under each sentence. I personally posed some of my thoughts just as a list participant not needing to have my sentences critiqued. I am not running for an office. I will refrain from further comments. This is my choice. I wish you all well. I would like to let Don know I have taken care of the blackhole problem, I have forwarded it to the proper authorites. They will handle it from here. There would not be an election if there were not at least 2 nominees. Having a choice is a good thing. A decision "not to vote" is a vote. Not voting is voting. Whatever, or whoever the outcome, I will continue to do the best job I can maintaining the Sligo WGW site. Good luck, Céad Míle Fáilte, Sheila

No Sheila we don't need a politician - we need someone with honesty and integrity. We need someone who will lead this project to where it should be instead of having a personal agenda. We need someone who will listen and deal with issues by prioritizing them. Not real sure if we need by-laws - but......... wasn't this issue brought to the leadership team? If so why didn't they work on them?? If not then why not?? I think before we worry about bylaws/policies we need to first concern ourselves with the welfare of the project The fact some people have a need to attack, argue and contort some peoples words. That too me is far more important right now. We need to set up honest communication, where people- even the verbal - can say something and not be blasted. The greivance committee pretty much said no "help" for at least 5-6 months - so for the temporary being I suppose one could infer it means only one for now. But - I suppose given enough time perhaps a committee - elected by the coordiantors themselves would be the best avenue. I'm sure several people are not speaking for fear they will be verbally hung on their words. That's a shame. If I wasn't running for NC I probably would hit the delete key as many have/are doing. And BTW: Sheila that is one of my favorite Robert Frost poems BarbL Donkelly wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sheila" <hhelser@bright.net> > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 9:01 PM > Subject: [IGW] voting > > > Do we need a politician? > > Or do we need enthusiasm, honesty, and someone experienced in site design > > and maintenence? > > > All of the above > > > Will decisions be made by one or two persons or the group? > > And just what needs to be decided? > > > Committees have yet to be selected. By-laws will stipulate who does what. > > > Are there others on this mail-list who hide in the branches of the tree? > > > I have heard from eleven or twelve. There must be five or six others out > there. > > Nice poem.................these can rapidly turn me to jello. > > THE ROAD NOT TAKEN > > > > Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, > > And sorry I could not travel both > > And be one traveler, long I stood > > And looked down one as far as I could > > To where it bent in the undergrowth; > > Then took the other, as just as fair, > > And having perhaps the better claim, > > Because it was grassy and wanted wear; > > Though as for that the passing there > > Had worn them really about the same, > > And both that morning equally lay > > In leaves no step had trodden black. > > Oh, I kept the first for another day! > > Yet knowing how way leads on to way, > > I doubted if I should ever come back. > > I shall be telling this with a sigh > > Somewhere ages and ages hence: > > Two roads diverged in a wood, and I- > > I took the one less traveled by, > > And that has made all the difference. > > *Robert Frost* > > > > > > I support Barb Lavin for IGW Country host. > > > > Sheila > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > http://www.bright.net/~hhelser/sheila.html > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/ > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pavenang/ > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohacogs/ > > /) http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamckean/ > > /\___/\ (( http://www.bright.net/~mohrbows/ > > \`@_@'/ )) The essence of humanity /~(_)~\ > > {_:Y:.}_// is in the pursuit of the arts! | :=:======II > > --{_}^-'{_}----------------------------------- \_(~)_/ > > > > > > > > > > > >

Six hosts at a time?? BarbL Donkelly wrote: > Yes Mary. Thanks. I thought we were all on list. Don't recall seeing six > hosts on at one time before. How neat? Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <irishsun@ptdprolog.net> > To: "Donkelly" <donkelly@grovenet.net> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 8:30 AM > Subject: Re: [IGW] fame > > > Don, > > you meant this for the list right?? > > > > Donkelly wrote: > > > > > Well, I keep thinking of having a historian keep the history of this > > > project, on a back page somewhere. Having all of the names there ever > were > > > suits my since of detail and satisfies my urge to honor. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <irishsun@ptdprolog.net> > > > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 7:45 PM > > > Subject: Re: [IGW] fame > > > > > > > oooooooo Sheila they are wonderful ideas!! > > > > Including the name change - LOVE IT!!!!! > > > > > > > > Sheila wrote: > > > > > > > > > Can one gain fame from having their name posted on an IGW - WGW main > > > site? > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps a new wave to the future would be to have only the sites > listed > > > and > > > > > then have vacant beside the counties needing hosts. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe have a little icon shape of the county beside the county name > > > instead > > > > > of the hosts name. Or maybe a clickable image map of Ireland, county > > > names > > > > > only. > > > > > > > > > > So many possibilites for ÉireGenWeb . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I thought you were for keeping the graphics to a min?? BarbL Donkelly wrote: > I like all of these. How about a little house beside each county, green if > occupied and red if vacant. Click on a vacant house and pop-up adoption > instructions. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <irishsun@ptdprolog.net> > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: [IGW] fame > > > oooooooo Sheila they are wonderful ideas!! > > Including the name change - LOVE IT!!!!! > > > > Sheila wrote: > > > > > Can one gain fame from having their name posted on an IGW - WGW main > site? > > > > > > Perhaps a new wave to the future would be to have only the sites listed > and > > > then have vacant beside the counties needing hosts. > > > > > > Maybe have a little icon shape of the county beside the county name > instead > > > of the hosts name. Or maybe a clickable image map of Ireland, county > names > > > only. > > > > > > So many possibilites for ÉireGenWeb . > > > > > >

Why would you keep the history of the project? Do the new coordinators need it? Or the researchers?? BarbL Donkelly wrote: > Well, I keep thinking of having a historian keep the history of this > project, on a back page somewhere. Having all of the names there ever were > suits my since of detail and satisfies my urge to honor. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <irishsun@ptdprolog.net> > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: [IGW] fame > > > oooooooo Sheila they are wonderful ideas!! > > Including the name change - LOVE IT!!!!! > > > > Sheila wrote: > > > > > Can one gain fame from having their name posted on an IGW - WGW main > site? > > > > > > Perhaps a new wave to the future would be to have only the sites listed > and > > > then have vacant beside the counties needing hosts. > > > > > > Maybe have a little icon shape of the county beside the county name > instead > > > of the hosts name. Or maybe a clickable image map of Ireland, county > names > > > only. > > > > > > So many possibilites for ÉireGenWeb . > > > > > >

This was sent to me in error and not the list: <quote> I'm glad you stated where your priorities are Barb. Without hosts, you have no pages, all you have is bulletin boards <quote> Actually Don that's not what I was saying I was saying: the county host is here for the county - not the country I, the county coordinator, am not here to see my name in lights on the country page - I am here to get the information to the researcher. That's my main purpose. Whether it be in Ireland or Pa. If the coordinator puts my name in lights is strictly up to them. People will visit my counties whether they see me on the main page or not. BarbL Donkelly wrote: > I'm glad you stated where your priorities are Barb. Without hosts, you have > no pages, all you have is bulletin boards. > Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <irishsun@ptdprolog.net> > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: [IGW] what? > > > I agree with Sheila. The reason we are here is for the counties not > > the coordinators. While yes they are the backbone - it's not > > a mandatory necessity. > > > > barbL > > > > Sheila wrote: > > > > > The counties were always there just not the names. The county is the > > > important part, not the person's name. > > > > > > >X-From_: IGW-L-request@rootsweb.com Tue Jan 25 21:31:54 2000 > > > >Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:29:43 -0800 (PST) > > > >From: "Donkelly" <donkelly@grovenet.net> > > > >Old-To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Subject: Re: [IGW] what? > > > >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:16:10 -0800 > > > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 > > > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 > > > >To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Resent-From: IGW-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Reply-To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com > > > >X-Mailing-List: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/351 > > > >X-Loop: IGW-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Resent-Sender: IGW-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > >I also agree, but it took awhile to get there. Until a short time ago > the > > > >counties and hosts were not listed on the front page. > > > >Don > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Sheila" <hhelser@bright.net> > > > >To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 3:40 PM > > > >Subject: [IGW] what? > > > > > > > > > > > >> I do not understand why there was discussion about the main page? > > > >> What's the beef? > > > >> > > > >> http://pa-roots.com/ireland/index.html > > > >> > > > >> I think the main page of the Ireland Genweb looks very nice. It is > clean > > > >> and has all the necessary information on it. The side pages are very > good > > > >> and explain things in detail. > > > >> > > > >> I think Nate has done an excellent job with the main site. > > > >> > > > >> Sheila > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >