Hi Nate: Your message of the 8th stated that Pascal was out of town, but would be back 'tomorrow', the 9th to announce the election results. It's now late afternoon of the 10th over here in North America where I am. Any idea at all when we can expect to learn the results of the election - I would like to be able to settle back into my routine which has been suffering during unnecessary delays the past month worrying about what is to become of the IrelandGenWeb project. I am sure I am not the only one interested in the results of our own election. Thank you. Mary Kelly Co. Tipperary At 09:29 PM 2/8/00 -0800, Nathan Zipfel wrote: >FYI, > >Pascal is out of town but will be back tomorrow to announce the results of >the election. > >Nate > > >

This was posted on the Sligo guestbook. Old retired guy looking to find out something about the family, hopefully b4 I meet them in person. - ------------------------------------------------------ dp The essence of humanity = dp is in the pursuit of the arts! || http://www.bright.net/~hhelser/sheila.html || .-.-. ' || ` http://www.rootsweb.com/~pavenang/ ( : ) ) || ( http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamckean/ .-.\ ' /.-. _)::(_ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohacogs/ (_..SLIGO.._) ) || ( http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/ ( /|\ ) ( \/ ) '-' | '-' `-..-'

For those of you who had the link to the IGW website at the pa-roots.com location, please update you links as I've moved the site back to Rootsweb in preparation for the turn over. The URL is http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwgw/ Nate

FYI, Pascal is out of town but will be back tomorrow to announce the results of the election. Nate

Barb et al. I cut and paste Pascal's instructions. I read basicly five rules: 1. Send from your regular email address 2. Send to the igw-vote address listed below. 3. In subject area write "IGW NC vote" without the "" 4. In message area........just write first and last name of your candidate 5. Do not sign the message. Don ========================================== Rules : Please send your votes : - after 1st Feb 00:00 GMT - before 8th Feb. 11:59 pm GMT by e.mail only to : igw-vote@mediterraneangenweb.org The subject of the e.mail has to be : IGW NC vote The e.mail you use for sending the e.mail has to be your e.mail used by me as a recipient for this mail. The body of the mail has to be only the first and last name of the nominee. No additional comments, not more than one nominee (see rules discussed before Jan 20th), not more than one vote. Each person who would vote 2 times, or who wouldn't send a vote according the rules below would see all his votes cancelled. If you have a comment, please send it straight to me. I will be available each evening (GMT) from next Tuesday. If there is a problem in the vote, if my English has to be improved, no polemic please. You inform me and everything will be ok. Good luck ! Pascal Pinan-Lucarre ----- Original Message ----- From: <irishsun@ptdprolog.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 6:03 AM Subject: [IGW] Voting > where do we go to vote??? > > BarbL >

Hi Barb: The instructions for voting by email were included in Pascal's message of 30 Jan. (I have included his message below for the benefit of anyone who may have lost the original message). Everyone - please follow his instructions to the letter - we don't want to have any of our votes set aside as spoiled ballots because we did not follow the procedures as listed; there are so few of us. Also, everyone please do exercise your right to vote in this election - follow your own hearts - but do vote. This is finally our chance to make our voices heard! Mary Kelly Co. Tip I support Don Kelly - I like his demonstrated communication and organizational skills! At 09:03 AM 2/2/00 -0500, irishsun@ptdprolog.net wrote: >where do we go to vote??? > >BarbL > > ----------------------- X-Sender: pascal.pinan-lucarre@smtp.francegenweb.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:45:15 +0100 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Pascal Pinan-Lucarre <pascal.pinan-lucarre@francegenweb.org> Subject: IGW vote Dear All, The candidates for being the National Coordinator of IrelandGenWeb, part of WorldGenWeb, are the following : Don Kelly Barb Lavin Rules : Please send your votes : - after 1st Feb 00:00 GMT - before 8th Feb. 11:59 pm GMT by e.mail only to : igw-vote@mediterraneangenweb.org The subject of the e.mail has to be : IGW NC vote The e.mail you use for sending the e.mail has to be your e.mail used by me as a recipient for this mail. The body of the mail has to be only the first and last name of the nominee. No additional comments, not more than one nominee (see rules discussed before Jan 20th), not more than one vote. Each person who would vote 2 times, or who wouldn't send a vote according the rules below would see all his votes cancelled. If you have a comment, please send it straight to me. I will be available each evening (GMT) from next Tuesday. If there is a problem in the vote, if my English has to be improved, no polemic please. You inform me and everything will be ok. Good luck ! Pascal Pinan-Lucarre

where do we go to vote??? BarbL

Anyone have a good click map of Ireland that we can legally use within the front page structure of the main Ireland page? Thanks Don

Thanks don for sending the URL I received it this morning around 9 and transmitted it to most of my lists. I agree with you we need to save the battlefield. Apparently one must enter it in order to get to some parts in Ohio. Same they are thinking about getting rid of it Poor is the nation who has no heroes Shameful is the nation who has them and forgets. I hope everyone will join Don and I in saving this beloved battlefield. Our Civil War ancestors valiantly fought and bravely died for the United States. Thanks BarbL

Dear Friends, I have just read and signed the online petition: "Save Ohio's Civil War Battlefield : Buffington Island " hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at: http://www.petitiononline.com/Buff/petition.html I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself. Best wishes, Don Kelly

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Sorry - out of the more than 100 old messages (left over from my forced absence from the net) that I have worked through in the past hours - this is another that I would like to respond to. I am very glad, both Barb and Sheila, that you do actually agree with the recent changes to the main page - which was changed to bring BACK the table listing the counties and hosts to what it was previously; the table now clearly indicates again which counties are unhosted. This is what numerous messages were about previously when some of us simply stated that we thought this particular setup was more efficient and friendly for researchers and others disagreed stating that it was unnecessary to have such a listing? As you have indicated, we are all free to change our stated opinions. Mary Kelly Co. Tip At 08:41 AM 1/19/00 -0500, irishsun@ptdprolog.net wrote: >I have toagree with Sheila her >very nicely done Nate!! >My info is correct :o) > >BarbL >Sheila wrote: > >> Very nice table! >> Sheila >> >> At 09:16 PM 01/18/2000 -0800, Nathan Zipfel wrote: >> >FYI....I updated the IGW website to include the coordinator for each county. >> >You might wish to check to ensure I got your e-mail address correct. >> > >> >Nate

Sorry to be going over an old message, but I am finally getting a chance to read the messages that accumulated while I was off-line for a couple of weeks with computer problems. The message concerned involves my name - therefore I feel obligated to respond. I haven't finished reading all of the old messages so I don't know if this message was dealt with by others or not. Barb - why did you think that either Mary T or myself, Mary Kelly, were ever members of the leadership team? I was never aware of such a team, nor apparently was Mary T. From what I remember of the original messages that started after Nate announced that we had problems within the project, Don Kelly and Maura P were listed as leadership team members - if there were others in the team, I do no recall seeing any messages from them (after the hundreds of messages on this list during the past weeks it gets hard to remember them all). I think as a potential leader you could at least have verified for yourself exactly who the leadership team consisted of before telling people to live up to their responsiblities - you also have the responsibility to get your facts straight - such misinformation can lead to inappropriate decisions being made by those of us potential voters that are uninformed and have no access to higher powers! I for one cannot tell you what was going on as I have no idea - that is why I send out my messages to try to verify for myself what is and was going on! How can you possibly say 'Let them take responsibility for their actions' - when you obviously have named 2 of us in error! I wonder what other misapprehensions are you working under? Mary Kelly Co. Tip - completely uninformed and uninvolved - a simple county host! I support Don Kelly and Ireland GenWeb At 11:11 AM 1/17/00 -0500, irishsun@ptdprolog.net wrote: >These constant attacks by you are getting quite old. >I have never "declared" what was ok and not >I have simply asked you and others to allow the topic to change so a more >pleasant atmosphere could come to Ireland - even if it was for a day. >I believe and still do believe that wasn't much to ask for. > >Why did Nate have to be the one to inform?? Why couldn't the other 3 members of >the leadership team inform? They were 4 people involved on that team - Nate was >only one. Why couldn't Don, MaryK or Maura also tell us what was going on? >Let them take responsiblity for their actions - they need to be asked >THE EXACT SAME QUESTION. I find it fascinating that all the blame has been >placed on one person of the team and not one of the team has taken responsiblity >for their roles. I guess the answer is it's easy to blame one - rather then >take or spread the blame. > >I think - we coould all use a break from all the flip it remarks by >severalpeople >on this list. It's uncalled for and definetly not wanted by myself and others. >And YES I am saying it's not ok to talk THIS way. I agree with Nate >if one can't be a lady or a gentlemen then one does not need to write their >e-mail. >If one can't be nice then for goodness sake please keep the flipit, unhappy >comments to yourself ( the ROYAL yourself). The coordinators left don't need to >read it- don't deserve it >and don't want it. > >BarbL > > >Waterlilys@aol.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 1/17/2000 6:43:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, >> irishsun@ptdprolog.net writes: >> >> Barb, >> >> << These by-laws would not work - as Nate already said - for IGW.>> >> >> That does not mean its written in stone, he is on his way out. New leadership >> may see things differently, obviously you would support the status quo.. >> something so many of us want to change. >> >> OUT WITH THE OLD IN WITH THE NEW >> >> << <you said>is there a problem with that...not on your list of approved >> topics I >> take it.<end> >> This is uncalled for behavior ->> >> >> I say declaring what is OK to debate and what isn't by you is uncalled >> behavior, you are not the list moderator. You are merely a candidate, why >> should you set limits on what is valuable to discuss and what isnt? Unless >> you are speaking with some higher authority? >> >> << However, apparently this was discussed by the leadership team and >> poo-pooed. Weren't you a member of that team?>> >> >> Please try to get the facts straight. No I was not a member of the so called >> Leadership team. >> >> Who even knew there was a Leadership Team representing us? >> >> Nate never bothered to inform us there was a team, or who was on it. or what >> was being discussed or decided on our behalf. >> >> More evidence of poor lack of communication, and what needs to be changed. >> >> Can we discuss that... lack of communication and the need for improvement ? >> is that approved of topic or not? Please dont tell me I cant ask what is >> approved of topic since you are atttempting to limit discussion, I have to >> know what is ok and what isnt dont I? You cant have it both ways. >> >> <<Question: If you found it so wonderful why did you not want it when you >> had the >> opportunity to do it then? It would have been a great thing for the >> leadership >> to have accomplished during this temporary service.>> >> >> the suggestions of the leadership team and how much they were listened to is >> much under debate ... their existence as more than just a token attempt at >> just saying they existed is under question too. Is that Ok to talk about? I >> never know with you, but since you brought it up I would assume so. Or is it >> just the answers you dont like? >> >> << The reason the county host has no policy and/or procedure is >> because there are no policies in place. Again - your team diapproved of >> them.>> >> >> Maybe you should quote what people have said as I think what you are >> insinuating is highly inaccurate >> >> My team? or do you mean OUR team... Nate hand picked them himself. >> >> Does it matter to you that the team may have been so desperate to get SOME >> KIND OF AN ELECTION going after a much delayed promise and foot dragging to >> the point of forcing the issue to the loss of all others? It seemd that >> important to them? more argueing over policy = more foot dragging on the >> election issue which was way past over due >> >> <> >> >> First you say policies there cant be used here (USGenWeb), now you say you >> use the same policies everywhere..make up your mind. >> >> << I follow the rules of commom sense. Which Gods are you referring to?? >> The leadership team? >> >> >> no ... the idea that once a proclamation is made its written in granite: >> >> << These by-laws would not work - as Nate already said - for IGW.>. >> >> if Nate said so it must be so >> >> Gee Barb, you make this so easy! >> >> maryt >> co kerry >> iregenweb > > > > >

Well Mary you are in the minority - but that's fine :o) We obviously approach time differently. I really don't like going through the main page to access my information. When I was first researching certain lines you can bet I went through the main state/country page. I do this more because I am in unfamiliar territory. However, even now - when I go looking for information I stay at the county level. When I research my Pa kin I started through the main page in Pa so I could navigate - once I found my county I book marked it. Perhaps - since most people in Pa are searching the Pa counties - as in new world lines - they tend to bookmark the counties. At least that's what all the email I receive concerning the sites indicates. Maybe once they find they have to go to the old world they bookmark the main site until they are on familiar territory; then bookmark the county site for easy accessibility. I see the counties as the main place - not the country. The problem I've found with having a table layout is the older browser editions and puters tend to have problems with tables. I use tables because i lay out my pages that way. Wales is also in tables format. Would I use a table for Ireland?? Possibly. I tend to have bgcolor= on my page so people who turn off graphics can see the color of the text, links, vlinks and alinks I've chosen for my pages. As was already discussed - the more graphics - including background on a page the longer it takes for download. If you want speedy gonzalez to get in and out tables, graphics and more aren't the way to go. No matter how simple they are. Some graphics load faster then others and repetitive graphics load faster then singular. As I said though design is definitely a personal choice. In the last one and a half years look at all the choices we've seen. Jolene's with clover and music. Carol's very straightforward with a border. Nate's clean and small tables. Is one better then the other - I would say no. They were all beautiful in their own rank. Each an expression of the designer. BarbL Mary A. Kelly wrote: > Barb > I am sure you will agree that we all have our own methods of doing our own > personal research - my opinion as a host is to make the information > available for folks, if they want to use it fine - if not, fine! I am very > sure that if you gathered together 10 individuals, you would find 10 > different methods of research. The project aim is to provide the > information - regardless of what we may think people will want to do with > the info provided or how they may access it. I don't really think that I > would venture into the realm of trying to tell someone how they should > access or utilize their favourite sites - I would put forth suggestions > perhaps, but would not presume to tell them they were not doing it properly > (or the 'normal' way) because they didn't go about it the same way I would? > > I simply stated that I prefer to go through the main site - I usually > access it through the link at the top of my own county site actually. Same > with the USGW - I have a number of states/counties that I refer to on a > regular basis - I always go through the main site - my option - not > necessarily anyone elses'. Going through the main site also usually means > that you end up on the most up to date site, not one of those abandoned > ones we come across occasionally without realizing it. > > I still haven't located the places of origin for my 2 paternal great grands > in Ireland yet - could be any 2 out of 32 counties. Even when I want to go > to Co. Down for the maternal line, I still go through the main site - a > couple of extra seconds don't really bother me that much, normally the main > country page is relatively graphic free and quick loading (of course now it > is one page further away because it is not longer part of Ireland) - it > takes much longer to go through my very lengthy, convoluted list of > 'favourites bookmarks'. Just my personal choice of access - and I am able > to do so very quickly. > > As for the mention of your own page (2 tables) as opposed to the main page > being fast I was just mentioning some of the points on graphics, html > coding and tables - it was in reference to your own question about 2 > suggested graphical icons potentially causing delays in uploading as > opposed to the use of tables. Both graphics and tables do delay > downloading to some extent of course, but the fact remains that generally > nothing within a table displays until the entire table is downloaded, > regardless of the content, straight html coding or graphics. (2 small plain > icons added to a page would result in minimal download delays even for > antiquated technology). Of course you are correct - a straight html > document would be the fastest to load; perhaps not esthically pleasing or > especially interesting but very fast indeed. Perhaps that is why we are > asked to display the GW logos that we are expected to post. > > That is why the current main page loads so quickly - there is a minimum of > graphics - it is a clean, clear and concise page with appropriate info > provided for potential researchers. I like the new cleaner look for the > main page - for a while there I found it a mite confusing even though I was > quite familiar with the content. > > Mary Kelly > Co. Tip > > At 08:40 PM 1/27/00 -0500, irishsun@ptdprolog.net wrote: > >Mary > >Glad you brought up my table. As I recall this was in reference to the > main page > >being fast- not my page. If one wants a fast fast fast page - one > doesn't put > >graphics graphics graphics. > > > >As for main pages - um - yep > >most people only bookmark their county. If they have several counties they > >bookmark them > >They don't bookmark the main page. > > > >Let's see I'm a researcher who wants information - I have a choice. > Bookmark the > >page that > >truly matters to me or bookmark the page that links to the page that truly > matters > >to me. > >I may have family in 3 counties. Why not bookmark the 3 counties - go to my > >bookmarks > >and enter - saves more time and less download time. > > > >BarbL > > > >Mary A. Kelly wrote: > > > >> Barb - I disagree that the main site is not accessed as often as a county > >> page - on the whole I find that I load the main site page very often > >> indeed! Why would I have possibly 32 separate books marks for Ireland when > >> one would do very well instead. I assume that you are assuming each > >> researcher has an interest in only 1 county? Hmm - not likely. When would > >> a researcher not load the main site for whatever reason? > >> > >> No one HAS to look at something that they are not interested in - but the > >> does it hurt anything if the info is provided anyway - just in case? > >> > >> Now let me see - following your own reasoning about tables being slow to > >> load - perhaps that explains why your Co. Kildare page loads slowly for me > >> (old computer) since the almost the entire content of the page is set up > >> within tables, including some graphics, which of course would load only > >> after the table itself is loaded. Actually as you well know, with your html > >> skills, that simple little red and green icons would actually load very > >> quickly indeed as there would be only 2 actual graphics to be loaded, > >> regardless of the number of times the graphic is repeated within the > >> document itself - if a graphic appears only once or 20 times within a > >> document, it is still only uploaded once. > >> > >> Mary Kelly > >> Co. Tipperary > >> > >> At 01:20 PM 1/26/00 -0500, irishsun@ptdprolog.net wrote: > >> >Don, > >> >Exactly when do you think the researcher will be accessing the main page? > >> >And if they are moving on quickly - will they really be interested in > seeing > >> >the coordinators name ? Since that would possibly require a table - which > >> >for some people loads > >> >sllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooowwwwwwwllllllllllllllllyyyyyyy > >> >which takes away from the idea of fast. > >> > > >> >You brought up the idea of little green and red houses - won't this add to > >> the > >> >loading time?? > >> >So they in themselves defeat the purpose of in and out. I was under the > >> >impression > >> >people go to the main page maybe once or twice- maybe a few more times. > >> But as > >> >a whole > >> >they bookmark the county page so they can go right to their resource. > Which > >> >means they > >> >by-pass the main page. Sometimes they return to ask the coordinator a > >> question > >> >or > >> >look for generic links but as a whole the main page is visited on the > average > >> >less then > >> >the county page. So fast, fast, fast may not be what they need. > >> > > >> >BarbL > >> > > >> >Donkelly wrote: > >> > > >> >> Thanks for the support Mary. Don't be too sure about possible > >> relationships. > >> >> I cam from Connaught so I bet I have a lot of cousins around there. > >> >> > >> >> Back to the page, I see best function as being fast to load > (maximized) and > >> >> informational. > >> >> Researchers need to load the page fast, navigate fast, and move on fast. > >> For > >> >> the most part, they may be distracted by little dancing green men. > <grin> > >> >> Don > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Mary A. Kelly" <mkelly@cyberbeach.net> > >> >> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 4:54 AM > >> >> Subject: Re: [IGW] voting > >> >> > >> >> > Enthusiasm, and honesty are indeed invaluable qualities - but so is > the > >> >> > ability to stand up under pressure, coolheadedness in crisis, people > >> >> > skills, simple communication skills, willingness to discuss a subject > >> even > >> >> > if you do not necessarily consider it to be of any importance > personally. > >> >> > The ability to recognize that everyone is entitled to their own > opinion > >> >> > (however silly you may consider it personally) is also very important. > >> >> > Committment to a project in a non-selfserving way is important to > me when > >> >> > considering a leader. > >> >> > > >> >> > Site design? As has been stated previously by yourself - you like > >> >> > different sites because of the ideas they provide - we are all able to > >> >> > access and utilize the same ideas and am I sure have our own > capabilities > >> >> > and ideas. I personally am of the opinion that things should be > kept low > >> >> > tech for the benefit of the vast majority of serious researchers > that are > >> >> > interested in genealogical information - not flashy high tech > animations > >> >> or > >> >> > gimmicks. Not everyone has the benefit of cheap, speedy, high tech > >> access > >> >> > to the web. Again, we will all have our own opinions about web > design, > >> >> > that is why each of our sites is different - or is there a > qualified site > >> >> > analyist amongst our ranks? > >> >> > > >> >> > I support DON KELLY for host (no relation!) > >> >> > > >> >> > Mary Kelly > >> >> > Co. Tip > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > At 12:01 AM 1/26/00 -0500, Sheila wrote: > >> >> > >Do we need a politician? > >> >> > >Or do we need enthusiasm, honesty, and someone experienced in site > >> design > >> >> > >and maintenence? > >> >> > > > >> >> > >Will decisions be made by one or two persons or the group? > >> >> > >And just what needs to be decided? > >> >> > > > >> >> > >Are there others on this mail-list who hide in the branches of the > tree? > >> >> > > > >> >> > >THE ROAD NOT TAKEN > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, > >> >> > > And sorry I could not travel both > >> >> > > And be one traveler, long I stood > >> >> > > And looked down one as far as I could > >> >> > > To where it bent in the undergrowth; > >> >> > > Then took the other, as just as fair, > >> >> > > And having perhaps the better claim, > >> >> > > Because it was grassy and wanted wear; > >> >> > > Though as for that the passing there > >> >> > > Had worn them really about the same, > >> >> > > And both that morning equally lay > >> >> > > In leaves no step had trodden black. > >> >> > > Oh, I kept the first for another day! > >> >> > > Yet knowing how way leads on to way, > >> >> > > I doubted if I should ever come back. > >> >> > > I shall be telling this with a sigh > >> >> > > Somewhere ages and ages hence: > >> >> > > Two roads diverged in a wood, and I- > >> >> > > I took the one less traveled by, > >> >> > > And that has made all the difference. > >> >> > > *Robert Frost* > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > >I support Barb Lavin for IGW Country host. > >> >> > > > >> >> > >Sheila > >> >> > > > >> >> > >------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> > > http://www.bright.net/~hhelser/sheila.html > >> >> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/ > >> >> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pavenang/ > >> >> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohacogs/ > >> >> > > /) http://www.rootsweb.com/~pamckean/ > >> >> > > /\___/\ (( http://www.bright.net/~mohrbows/ > >> >> > > \`@_@'/ )) The essence of humanity /~(_)~\ > >> >> > > {_:Y:.}_// is in the pursuit of the arts! | :=:======II > >> >> > >--{_}^-'{_}----------------------------------- \_(~)_/ > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary A. Kelly" <mkelly@cyberbeach.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 5:38 AM Subject: [IGW] Testing > I haven't received any message at all for the past day - is the list still > working? > > Mary Kelly > Co. Tip >

I wish to correct the false impresion that a few on the list may have. I have seen mention of my "blackhole" problems. A few others onlist seemed to have this problem. But mine was not "Blackhole". We had an ice storm in Atlanta and I was without electricity for 4 days and could not use my computer. Jack -- Jack Reidy jreidy@writeme.com Limerick

I haven't received any message at all for the past day - is the list still working? Mary Kelly Co. Tip

In a message dated 1/29/2000 7:06:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, jreidy@writeme.com writes: << But mine was not "Blackhole". We had an ice storm in Atlanta and I was without electricity for 4 days and could not use my computer. >> Glad you're back Jack! No electricity for 4 days? ... just think, our ancestors would have just dug up a bit of the bog for more heat... maryt co kerry

In a message dated 1/29/2000 5:36:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, mkelly@cyberbeach.net writes: << I haven't received any message at all for the past day - is the list still working? >> While the cats away, the mice are being good for a change <G>. maryt

Don Did you try rodonnell@bigfoot.com instead of rodonell@bigfoot.com Looks like a typo on the main page list. Mary K At 09:16 AM 1/28/00 -0800, Donkelly wrote: >Anyone have a good email address for Donegal? >Thanks. Don > > >