In a message dated 7/13/00 5:25:25 AM Central Daylight Time, donkelly@grovenet.net writes: << Please visit your GC editing page and click on the square where it says something like, "update your Surname Helper page >> And just where would the GC editing page be?

In a message dated 7/13/00 6:25:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, donkelly@grovenet.net writes: << Please visit your GC editing page and click on the square where it says something like, "update your Surname Helper page". >> what is the GC editing page??

Ha! So much for the message I received from Jean when I asked her to stop posting her messages - she said that no one else had ever complained!!! Not only does she not have the guts to actually indicate what the postings are excerpts from, but she's a liar besides! That said, why would she post a whole bunch of her 'landowers' messages for Dublin County to the 'general Ireland' deed board? Hmmm! they're all in alphabetical order, someone moved them to that board recently? She was posted to the correct board for some counties (ie Down) but not for others, such as my own Tipperary, after being asked to decease? Obviously the entire project has been used by her as she saw fit - something else that should be governable and included in project policies? Mary Co. Tip At 11:33 PM 7/12/00 -0400, Christina Hunt wrote: >I went ahead and deleted Jean's stuff from my query board because of the >wasted emails to her. I have put the same files on the webpage. Jean agreed >to organize the info in a different order and leave out some of it to make >it acceptable after I corresponded with Pam Durstock. >I was going to say that I have copied and pasted query's in the past from >Longford to Gen Ireland when they didn't belong. I just copy the whole >thing...go in and do a new query and paste the misplaced query. I usually >copy from my email version and then stick the whole thing in the query box >so I can read the persons name etc. Then I type out or paste the persons >name and email and surnames. I delete the header from the box then go back >and delete the bad one from the county page. >Just a suggestion. >Christina >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Maura" <mpetzolt2@webtv.net> >To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 11:10 PM >Subject: Re: [IGW-CC's] GenConnect boards & the surname helper listings > > >> Anyone interested in moving those Landowner postings to either their own >> (I mean their county's) Deed board, or the General Ireland Deed board >> doesn't necessarily have to do it themselves. >> >> When this all "hit the fan" with Jean last year, and GC created the >> General Deeds board (where Jean was -supposed- to post all those for any >> county), Joan was going through any county query board and taking them >> off and moving them, sparing the host from retyping etc. I guess they >> have some way of doing it that doesn't involve retyping. >> >> So if you wish to do this, and don't want to retype it yourself, just >> drop them a line and ask if they will assist you. My feeling is that >> Joan probably will be glad to help you do it. After all, they are NOT >> queries, and as such should not be on Query boards according to GC >> policies. >> Now that there are Deed boards for each county as well as a General >> Ireland one, there is no reason to have them on any county query board. >> >> Maura >> >> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net >> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage >> http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS >> >> Helpful Hints for Successful Searching >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm >> >> >> ==== IGW Mailing List ==== >> The IrelandGenWeb Project >> > > >==== IGW Mailing List ==== >The IrelandGenWeb Project > > >

Ok - another point! I had corresponded with Jean Rice as I mentioned previously, she replied that no one else had complained, so I dropped the matter and just swore to myself whenever I saw a post coming in (the last one finishing the series was posted to my query board was in April 2000). I have received messages via the list from Don, warning of someone spamming the boards (I was never that sure about who was supposed to be doing it, as a name wasn't mentioned as far as I remember); but never a word about Jean's numerous postings. Now I see that it had all "hit the fan" last year - why was there no mention of it on the list? That is the type of info that should be posted to the list. Obviously I was not the only one bothered by these postings, but I couldn't be bothered to follow up and no one 'in the know' bothered to advise the rest of us. If indeed, as it sounds, the deeds boards were generated at that time, we all should have been advised, again by whoever is in charge of the project in general. I spent several hours last night moving the messages that had bother me for over a year. I would have appreciated knowing that there was an easier method of resolving the problem. Mary K Co. Tip At 10:10 PM 7/12/00 -0500, Maura wrote: >Anyone interested in moving those Landowner postings to either their own >(I mean their county's) Deed board, or the General Ireland Deed board >doesn't necessarily have to do it themselves. > >When this all "hit the fan" with Jean last year, and GC created the >General Deeds board (where Jean was -supposed- to post all those for any >county), Joan was going through any county query board and taking them >off and moving them, sparing the host from retyping etc. I guess they >have some way of doing it that doesn't involve retyping. > >So if you wish to do this, and don't want to retype it yourself, just >drop them a line and ask if they will assist you. My feeling is that >Joan probably will be glad to help you do it. After all, they are NOT >queries, and as such should not be on Query boards according to GC >policies. >Now that there are Deed boards for each county as well as a General >Ireland one, there is no reason to have them on any county query board. > >Maura > ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage >http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS > >Helpful Hints for Successful Searching >http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm > > >

Don: What is it that you are saying? Who is Mr. Merrin and what is it that he is looking into? Sometimes I find that you think all of the cc's on this list are aware of what is going on with the project behind the scenes - but until you bring it to our attention, we don't! And when you give us the information piecemeal (at times) it gets to be a bit confusing. I am still in the dark as to what is going on, why anyone would want to grab over 100 GenConnect boards but had no interest in working on the county that had been volunteered for etc and how it is going to affect the project in the long run - but I have learned quite a bit more about the boards then I knew last week. Mary Co Tip At 09:39 PM 7/12/00 -0700, Donkelly wrote: >July 12 3:PM I received a letter from Mr. Merrin. > >Until recently he was completely unaware of this issue and wants to learn >more. > >He asked me for my personal viewpoint of issues between GC and IGW Project. > >He stated he would learn more about what hurts us and will look into matters >on his end and see what he can do to help us. > >I am at a loss to understand how he thought we had a Rootsweb Issue. In my >previous letter to him I didn't even mention RW. > >Good day all. > >Don O Kelly > > > > >==== IGW Mailing List ==== >National Coordinator > > >

Being a relatively new CC, I was really clueless about the issues involving the GC boards. So I lurked in on the messages and went to the links many of you were speaking of. Did the global search as was discussed using a family name from Cork that I having trying to find for about 10 years ( He was an orphan born in 1857. Yikes! A few hits came up on Limerick, so I looked at them. I was stunned to find info I had been searching for all this time from a message there. I had no clue of a Limerick connection. Talked with the distant relative last night. Some good comes from everything I guess. Tom _____NetZero Free Internet Access and Email______ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

July 12 3:PM I received a letter from Mr. Merrin. Until recently he was completely unaware of this issue and wants to learn more. He asked me for my personal viewpoint of issues between GC and IGW Project. He stated he would learn more about what hurts us and will look into matters on his end and see what he can do to help us. I am at a loss to understand how he thought we had a Rootsweb Issue. In my previous letter to him I didn't even mention RW. Good day all. Don O Kelly

I went ahead and deleted Jean's stuff from my query board because of the wasted emails to her. I have put the same files on the webpage. Jean agreed to organize the info in a different order and leave out some of it to make it acceptable after I corresponded with Pam Durstock. I was going to say that I have copied and pasted query's in the past from Longford to Gen Ireland when they didn't belong. I just copy the whole thing...go in and do a new query and paste the misplaced query. I usually copy from my email version and then stick the whole thing in the query box so I can read the persons name etc. Then I type out or paste the persons name and email and surnames. I delete the header from the box then go back and delete the bad one from the county page. Just a suggestion. Christina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maura" <mpetzolt2@webtv.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [IGW-CC's] GenConnect boards & the surname helper listings > Anyone interested in moving those Landowner postings to either their own > (I mean their county's) Deed board, or the General Ireland Deed board > doesn't necessarily have to do it themselves. > > When this all "hit the fan" with Jean last year, and GC created the > General Deeds board (where Jean was -supposed- to post all those for any > county), Joan was going through any county query board and taking them > off and moving them, sparing the host from retyping etc. I guess they > have some way of doing it that doesn't involve retyping. > > So if you wish to do this, and don't want to retype it yourself, just > drop them a line and ask if they will assist you. My feeling is that > Joan probably will be glad to help you do it. After all, they are NOT > queries, and as such should not be on Query boards according to GC > policies. > Now that there are Deed boards for each county as well as a General > Ireland one, there is no reason to have them on any county query board. > > Maura > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage > http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS > > Helpful Hints for Successful Searching > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm > > > ==== IGW Mailing List ==== > The IrelandGenWeb Project >

Anyone interested in moving those Landowner postings to either their own (I mean their county's) Deed board, or the General Ireland Deed board doesn't necessarily have to do it themselves. When this all "hit the fan" with Jean last year, and GC created the General Deeds board (where Jean was -supposed- to post all those for any county), Joan was going through any county query board and taking them off and moving them, sparing the host from retyping etc. I guess they have some way of doing it that doesn't involve retyping. So if you wish to do this, and don't want to retype it yourself, just drop them a line and ask if they will assist you. My feeling is that Joan probably will be glad to help you do it. After all, they are NOT queries, and as such should not be on Query boards according to GC policies. Now that there are Deed boards for each county as well as a General Ireland one, there is no reason to have them on any county query board. Maura <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm

Hi guys! Boy I've sure have learned a lot about the GenConnect boards in the last couple of days. I had posted a message asking if the Surname helper (which makes a list of surnames mentioned in the postings on each of our boards) indexed all surnames listed on all of our boards, and whether deleted or 'moved' messages continue to be indexed. I came across a 'support board' in my travels and asked the same questions. I thought the posted response would be of interest to all of my fellow coordinators. -------------------- QUESTIONS Does the 'surname helper' index surnames only from query boards, or does it include all surnames from all boards in a suite (ie obits, wills, deeds). If a board manager moves messages from one board (say wills) to another (query) will the surname helper list the surname under the new board? If a board manager deleted messages that are 'off track' are the names (and 'no message' message) eventually removed from the surname listing. RESPONSE Hi, Mary- Surname Helper indexes ALL surnames found in the Surname Box on every board in a suite. If a board admin deletes a message from one board and/or moves that message to a different board the listing for the deleted message will be deleted and the new listing for the moved message will be updated to replace it within 2 weeks of the change. Joan ----------------- I sure was glad to see that response as I had moved all of Jean Rice's 'landowners' postings from the Tipperary query board to the more appropriate 'deeds' board (it took me a couple of hours!). Hope the above helps to clarify some questions for others that weren't sure about the system also. Mary Kelly Co. Tip

Don: I was just wondering why a person that volunteered as a county coordinator - but has apparently done absolutely nothing to upgrade or add to the county page itself - it is still in the basic 'template' form that all unhosted counties appear in - was able to remain on as a host and indeed able to get apparent control over all the GenConnect boards, including General Ireland boards. You would think in all the time that he 'maintained' the county he would have found something of interest to add to what was there when he took it over; why would anyone bother taking over a site otherwise? Dick's name still appears on the Dublin county page and there is an ad for Amazon.com on the page (apparently the only thing that he actually contributed to the site or the project in general?). The only Dublin board that Dick's name isn't on is the query one, which contains your name? If there are no basic policies or rules in place for county co-orordinators then there certainly should be including some sort of control over whether a cc remain on the project after being recognized as a problem for the entire project. (the current posted policies contain nothing about a host having to actually do anything on their site other than have links to IGW and query boards etc) How long is this project going to be open to everyone and anyone that wants to throw their own personal monkey wrench into the project for whatever personal reasons they may have - without their having to actually contribute anything themselves? Mary Kelly Co. Tip At 10:18 AM 7/12/00 -0700, Donkelly wrote: >Dear Coordinators with the IrelandGenWeb Project. > >The Coordinator for County Dublin officially resigned at 7:42 AM Tuesday >morning. > >His email address was removed from the Coordinator's Mailing list at >midnight Monday. > >Slan go foill > >Don O Kelly > > >==== IGW Mailing List ==== >National Coordinator > > >

Dear Coordinators with the IrelandGenWeb Project. The Coordinator for County Dublin officially resigned at 7:42 AM Tuesday morning. His email address was removed from the Coordinator's Mailing list at midnight Monday. Slan go foill Don O Kelly

Hi folks, I have asked Pam Durstock about this problem and she has told me that the problem is with Surname Helper and that it was written that way - so that the admin could update their information and have SH be updated at the same time. Patty is nolonger maintaining surname helper so no one will be around to fix this problem. As far as the names being switched - Pam said that it basically is the last person who changes the config gets there name on the sh page. It doesn't matter if it is your query board or his bios boards - the program just makes the update. Best idea is to keep an eye on the page and if you see it switched - just go and switch it back. She also said that anyone who is having password problems and cannot make updates to their config file to please email her directly at durp@one.net. Make sure you include your board url. She will look into each case separately. Best Wishes, Carol Hepburn chepburn@uswest.net Phoenix, AZ USA Home: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/ Work: http://www.acepromotions.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <Ninah@ix.netcom.com> To: <chepburn@uswest.net> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [IGW-CC's] Those darn boards > Carol, > I did go into the Genconnect admin and clicked to change the password AND > clicked to apply it to the surname searcher and it changed the Site manager > back to me. I agree that the last person using this may cause it to change > to read that they are site manager. If Dick went in there tonight they would > all show him again. > BTW, do you know if he is subbed to this list? > Christina > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <chepburn@uswest.net> > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 4:25 PM > Subject: Re: [IGW-CC's] Those darn boards > > > > Hi all, > > > > I just got email from Patty Lindsey and she said that changing the > password from > > the GC end should reset the sh index. If the password isn't working then > it is > > a GC problem. I will email Pam about it and see what she says. > > > > BTW - Patty is no longer on RW staff :o) > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Carol Hepburn > > chepburn@uswest.net > > Phoenix, AZ USA > > > > Home: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/ > > Work: http://www.acepromotions.net/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mary A. Kelly" <mkelly@cyberbeach.net> > > To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 1:04 PM > > Subject: [IGW-CC's] Those darn boards > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know the fully story behind the GenConnect and surname > system? > > > > > > Is money now being generated by the use of any of the boards that may be > > > linked directly to an IrelandGenWeb site? If so, who would get the > funds - > > > the board operator - or the server (I thought that was why Rootsweb > brought > > > in banners - to earn desparately needed funds for a 'non'profit > operation - > > > (I guess that smart move made any financial takeover more profitable for > > > them). > > > > > > Would we, as County hosts have the right to claim the 'extra' boards > back; > > > specifically in light of what is being done for whatever reason by one > > > person (you would certainly think so under the circumstances)? > (especially > > > now that we have the option of preventing responses to anything other > than > > > query boards - this function now makes those boards managable from an > admin > > > view point). > > > > > > How is the surname listing kept up to date - for example, if we remove > > > messages that do not belong on the board, is the surname removed from > the > > > list eventually, or will we get 'no message' message indefinitely? Is > > > there anyway to remove surnames for deleted messages? Is the list > updated > > > routinely or is it static and once a surname gets in there it stays > there? > > > > > > If we moved a group of messages from one board to another, would the > > > surname list switch them over as being posted on a different board? > > > > > > Mary > > > C. Tip > > > > > > > > > ==== IGW Mailing List ==== > > > Donald O'Collaugh Kelly > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IGW Mailing List ==== > > National Coordinator > > > >

If you are not listed as the site manager and ask for your password to be sent to you, it goes to Dick, not you. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm

--WebTV-Mail-3856-7291 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Mary's right, and I fear this is going to evolve into a cyber game of "cat and mouse" with Dick. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm --WebTV-Mail-3856-7291 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-11.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.45) by storefull-116.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <IGW-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by mailsorter-101-11.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with ESMTP id MAA09242 for <mpetzolt2@webtv.net>; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e6BJQkn17380; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:26:46 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:26:46 -0700 X-Original-Sender: mkelly@cyberbeach.net Tue Jul 11 12:26:45 2000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000711152453.007b58a0@post.cyberbeach.net> X-Sender: mkelly@post.cyberbeach.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:24:53 -0400 Old-To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com From: "Mary A. Kelly" <mkelly@cyberbeach.net> Subject: Re: [IGW-CC's] Confusion regarding boards and surname helper In-Reply-To: <014701bfeb6d$cb7888a0$0300000a@carols> References: <db.6af66f4.269cc90c@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <4gbss.A.YPE.1T3a5@lists6.rootsweb.com> To: IGW-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: IGW-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/654 X-Loop: IGW-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: IGW-L-request@rootsweb.com Carol & all: I think that the surname helper page is inputting the name of the last person that accesses the GenConnect admin pages for any county board. Dick's name was on the surname list for Co. Tipperary last evening because he had taken over the extra boards. When I went in and changed something on the query board through admin, my name again appeared on the surname list in place of Dick's. >From this I am inferring, that at any time that Dick goes into any of the extra boards through the GC admin system - his name will again appear as the name of the site owner on the surname page. Mary Co. Tip At 12:25 PM 7/11/00 -0700, chepburn@uswest.net wrote: >There is some confusion among new hosts about the boards (for queries) and >surname helper. > >GenConnect is the system that makes the query, obits, bios boards. Surname >Helper is the system that makes your surnames searchable. They are two separate >systems but they work together. > >If you go to your query board and click on the link that reads Surname List it >will take you to another page with all the surnames for your county. On this >page it will say: > >"This surname index page was generated for the Londonderry, Ireland pages by >Surname Helper. The Londonderry, Ireland pages are managed by Carol Hepburn. " > >This is the page that is giving out misinformation. Your query board will still >have your email on it (at the very bottom of the page) but this page will have >Dick McCoach's name and email on it. The return link will be to your website. >This is the page we need to update so that our visitors don't get confused. > >If you visit this page and your name appears where it belongs (like mine does) >then you are all set and don't have to worry about a thing. If however, the >page shows Dick's name you need to go to the change form and reset your query >board password. > >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/signup/change.html > >If you don't know your password, you can ask for your password to be emailed to >you by clicking on the button that says mail me my password. When you get the >email - try your password again. If your password still doesn't work - you need >to email Elaine Burkove at st_rays@hotmail.com and tell her that your password >is invalid and ask for a new one. > >Your password should work ig you have been admin'ing your board - removing >queries and such. Also, make sure you are putting in your board's url >correctly. On this form you must put in (the beginning of the string is already >there so just add this part) /Ireland/Armagh (example). If you put it in wrong >you will get a FILE ERROR! > >Best Wishes, > >Carol Hepburn >chepburn@uswest.net >Phoenix, AZ USA > >Home: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/ >Work: http://www.acepromotions.net/ > > >==== IGW Mailing List ==== >National Coordinator > > > ==== IGW Mailing List ==== Donald O'Collaugh Kelly --WebTV-Mail-3856-7291--

Mary, I can't answer all your questions, but I can definitely clear this up..... Rootsweb was NEVER a "non profit" organization. NEVER. They are officially incorporated in Delaware. They did set up a non-profit called GenSoc.org, but essentially it's a "dummy" group, and Brian et al who are still in charge of it have stated they have no plans to do anything with it. (Many of us who were fairly vocal in Rootsweb matters feel that the setting up of GenSoc.org feel that setting it up was a way to placate us, since they had indicated that the archives and other items would eventually be moved from the for-profit Rootsweb to the GenSoc.org group) This is all very long and involved, and this IGW host list is probably not the best place to rehash it. What's done is done. Those banner ad funds went to the for-profit Rootsweb.com Inc, which in a statement in Feb 2000 had issued 20 million stocks to private individuals (40% to Brian Leverich, 20% to Karen Isaccson, 20% to Bob Tillman and 20 % to various other staff members who were never named publicly). Even if these shares were valued at $1 US in this acquisition, those stockholders became very wealthy (Tillman especially for only a year and a half's work). Anyone interested in details and more information could check out two things, a webpage and list run by one of those persons banned by Rootsweb for speaking out http://www.radix.net/~merope - and the L_O_A_F-L list - which is not just for listowners and where much of this gets discussed as it's not an allowed topic on the official Listowner's list. Again, knowledge is important. You can't make good decisions or truly know what is going on if you don't make yourself knowledgeable on the details. Maura <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Maura Petzolt mpetzolt2@webtv.net <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SHAMROCK ROOTS homepage http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm

Hi all, I just got email from Patty Lindsey and she said that changing the password from the GC end should reset the sh index. If the password isn't working then it is a GC problem. I will email Pam about it and see what she says. BTW - Patty is no longer on RW staff :o) Best Wishes, Carol Hepburn chepburn@uswest.net Phoenix, AZ USA Home: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/ Work: http://www.acepromotions.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary A. Kelly" <mkelly@cyberbeach.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 1:04 PM Subject: [IGW-CC's] Those darn boards > > Does anyone know the fully story behind the GenConnect and surname system? > > Is money now being generated by the use of any of the boards that may be > linked directly to an IrelandGenWeb site? If so, who would get the funds - > the board operator - or the server (I thought that was why Rootsweb brought > in banners - to earn desparately needed funds for a 'non'profit operation - > (I guess that smart move made any financial takeover more profitable for > them). > > Would we, as County hosts have the right to claim the 'extra' boards back; > specifically in light of what is being done for whatever reason by one > person (you would certainly think so under the circumstances)? (especially > now that we have the option of preventing responses to anything other than > query boards - this function now makes those boards managable from an admin > view point). > > How is the surname listing kept up to date - for example, if we remove > messages that do not belong on the board, is the surname removed from the > list eventually, or will we get 'no message' message indefinitely? Is > there anyway to remove surnames for deleted messages? Is the list updated > routinely or is it static and once a surname gets in there it stays there? > > If we moved a group of messages from one board to another, would the > surname list switch them over as being posted on a different board? > > Mary > C. Tip > > > ==== IGW Mailing List ==== > Donald O'Collaugh Kelly > >

Does anyone know the fully story behind the GenConnect and surname system? Is money now being generated by the use of any of the boards that may be linked directly to an IrelandGenWeb site? If so, who would get the funds - the board operator - or the server (I thought that was why Rootsweb brought in banners - to earn desparately needed funds for a 'non'profit operation - (I guess that smart move made any financial takeover more profitable for them). Would we, as County hosts have the right to claim the 'extra' boards back; specifically in light of what is being done for whatever reason by one person (you would certainly think so under the circumstances)? (especially now that we have the option of preventing responses to anything other than query boards - this function now makes those boards managable from an admin view point). How is the surname listing kept up to date - for example, if we remove messages that do not belong on the board, is the surname removed from the list eventually, or will we get 'no message' message indefinitely? Is there anyway to remove surnames for deleted messages? Is the list updated routinely or is it static and once a surname gets in there it stays there? If we moved a group of messages from one board to another, would the surname list switch them over as being posted on a different board? Mary C. Tip

http://surhelp-bin.rootsweb.com/sitelist.pl Hi gang. Those who have not visited the above website, please be informed that Dick McCouch is claiming to be the rep for your IGW county website. Obviously, he not the CC or contact for your county site. He also claims to be the County Contact for IGW and WGW (left column) Those claims are lies because he represents neither IGW nor WGW in any capacity. These are totally false claims about the management of your county sites. Please update your surname helper county site with your name as contact. Don't permit anyone to try to steal or take credit for your hard work. Don Kelly, becoming quite annoyed by the audacity of this individual.

I encourage you all to update these pages while you can. It will also server to protect your rights to maintain your own county pages. Thanks Carol Don Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: <chepburn@uswest.net> To: <IGW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 11:48 AM Subject: [IGW-CC's] Counties still needing updates > Here are the counties that need to be updated in the Surname Helper Index. > > Armagh > Carlow > Cavan > Clare > Connaught > Dublin > Kilkenny > Ireland General > Kerry > Laois > Limerick > Longford > Louth > Mayo > Meath > Monaghan > Offaly > Roscommon > Tyrone > Westmeath > Wexford > Wicklow > > To change the surname helper index, use the > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/signup/change.html form. Put in your board url > and password then when you get to the admin screen scroll down to the bottom. > Re-enter your password and check the update surname helper password box. Click > submit. > > If you don't know you password, click the send me my password button. Once you > get your password - go back to this form. > > The Surname Helper Index will be updated automatically, > > Best Wishes, > > Carol Hepburn > chepburn@uswest.net > Phoenix, AZ USA > > Home: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/ > Work: http://www.acepromotions.net/ > > > ==== IGW Mailing List ==== > The IrelandGenWeb Project >