Has everyone heard that Ancestry is closing down the Rootsweb mailing lists in March? Is the admin of this list going to try and migrate the group somewhere else? We have started a new Idaho Genealogy message board/mailing list at "Groups.io" ( https://groups.io/g/IdahoGenealogy ) We want to place links to any county groups or specialized Idaho lists or groups on the home page. Of Course, anyone interested in Idaho genealogy is encouraged to join this new group I hope to hear from you RandyC

Has everyone heard that Ancestry is closing down the Rootsweb mailing lists in March? Is the admin of this list going to try and migrate the group somewhere else? We have started a new Idaho Genealogy message board/mailing list at "Groups.io" ( https://groups.io/g/IdahoGenealogy ) We want to place links to any county groups or specialized Idaho lists or groups on the home page. Of Course, anyone interested in Idaho genealogy is encouraged to join this new group I hope to hear from you RandyC

We would like to announce the forming of a new organization the Cumberland Gap Tennessee Genealogy and History Group, A.K.A (CGTGHG) which propose to record and preserve. The goal of the group is to promote Genealogy with the recording of Pioneerâs and their descendantâs while also preserving and recording Cumberland Gapâs history. The CGTGHG hopeâs the Nation will get behind the group by submitting pioneerâs names, stories, pictures and Genealogies to be preserved for future generations to come. The CGTGHG will be having a newsletter 4 times a year and will have memberships available on different levels more on that to come. You can go to our website at [1]cgtghg.org or [2]facebook.com/cgtghg Thank You, David A Nelson Jr Website and Social Media References 1. http://cgtghg.org/ 2. http://facebook.com/cgtghg

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dyancey1965 Surnames: Yancey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/551/mb.ashx Message Board Post: http://yanceyfamilygenealogy.org/aberdeen.htm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kamarvin Surnames: Christofferson, Christopherson, christoffersen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/542.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was so happy to find your posts regarding Patrah C. My mother knew very little about Patrah, her G.G. Grandmother...only that she spent some time at the asylum in Blackfoot...and that she had been buried at the city's cemetery in an unmarked grave. Mom hated the notion of her not having a headstone and wanted very much to remedy this one we could confirm her location. So in 2010, we traveled from Texas to Blackfoot and met with the Asylum's director. She was very pleasant, but gave us minimal information which ended up producing more questions & confusion. She told us she had record of Patrah's admittance in 1897 & it showed her being released from the asylum less than a month later. Yet, After returning to Texas, I found her in a 1910 census which showed her a resident at the asylum. The information the asylum's director gave us was listed as "Patrah Christopherson". I had provided the director a few different spelling variants to try finding her under, but she ! seemed to only find the one record. I ended up ordering a copy of her death certificate which was very informative. It showed she resided in Blackfoot for 16 years prior to her death on March 27, 1913. Had her cause of death as "uremic convulsions", with "chronic Instertitial nephritis" listed as the secondary COD. Also stated that she was buried at city cemetery March 29, 1913. (Hope to soon have photo of death cert uploaded/viewable/attached to her record in my family tree.) Needless to say, I too would love to know about Patrah & her stay (or stays) there at the asylum. Regarding her burial, our meeting with the Sexton, Phillip Meline, at the cemetery was much more fruitful. Once again, we had to provide him various spellings of both her 1st & last names and he ended up finding her listed under "Patroh Christoferson" (appears that "Patroh" came about when cemetary office was transcribing her name information from the mortuary's original, hand-written "Record of Funeral" document. Will upload my copy of this record as well.) Regarding Otto... He did remarry a woman named Julia. He resided in Pocatello until his death. Will try to get both documents uploaded soon. Happy to share any info I have... I would also love any opportunity to learn more about what happened to Patrah that took her away from her family. Her youngest child, Caraline, was adopted and raised by another family, but don't know the circumstances of the other 5 siblings after Patrah went to the asylum. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stbrown1 Surnames: Brown Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/52.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can you tell me where the information on A.L. Brown came from? I have not been able to find any good info on him. (My Dad has his pocket watch and it it inscribed "A.L. Brown". Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jkey04 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/364.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I agree with your assessment. I'm trying to get records for State Hospital North from 1919. First my grandmother wasn't there, and all records were burned in a fire. Then, yes there are records but you can't have them unless you get a court order! Then, don't bother getting a court order because the records are in obsolete storage,(microfiche I assume) and we still won't give them to you. Grrrrr! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sraine261 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/550/mb.ashx Message Board Post: i am looking to trace any living relatives of the above nicholas raine he was my 2nd great grandfather Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jerrymead1 Surnames: Riggs Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/549/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for some help in finding a newspaper account or obit for Harold Elmont Riggs, b. 12 Feb 1896, Moreland, ID, d. 6 Oct 1906, Moreland, ID. Son of John Levi Riggs. Might be in local newspaper, or Mormon records. Family accounts say he drowned, would like to find detail of the event and/or place of burial. Jerry Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thomasker2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/359.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not related to any member of this family. 1940 is the last available census at this time. IND Marriage record - Name: Oscar M Houghland Birth Date: Birthplace: Age: Spouse's Name: Louisa F Mccarty Spouse's Birth Date: Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: Event Date: 08 Jul 1897 Event Place: Dubois County, Indiana 1900 - 1910 - Name: Oscar Houghland Age in 1910: 33 Birth Year: abt 1877 Birthplace: Indiana Home in 1910: Marion, Dubois, Indiana Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Louise Houghland Father's Birthplace: INDIANA Mother's Birthplace: Indiana Oscar Houghland 33, IND - RR agent Louise Houghland 31, IND Hellen Houghland 11, IND Robert Houghland 8, IND 1920 - Name: Louise F Houghland Age: 41 Birth Year: abt 1879 Birthplace: Indiana Home in 1920: Sterling, Bingham, Idaho Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Wife Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Oscar Houghland Father's Birthplace: Kentucky Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee Oscar Houghland 42, IND - RR operator Louise F Houghland 41, IND Robert I Houghland 19, IND 1930 - 1940 - U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name: Oscar Monroe Houghland County: Bingham State: Idaho Birth Date: 19 Aug 1875 Race: White OCC: RR agent married - Louise Idaho, Death Index, 1890-1962 Name: Oscar Monroe Houghland Birth Place: Indiana Birth Date: 19 Aug 1875 Death Place: Sterling, Bingham, Idaho, USA Death Date: 5 May 1950 Father: Isaac Houghland Father Birth Place: Indiana Mother: Frances Phillips Mother Birth Place: Indiana Certificate Year: 1950 Certificate Number: 001742 Louise is buried next to Oscar. Her DOB is listed as 1877 and died 1951 from findagrave.com - Louise Frances McCarty Houghland Birth: Oct. 6, 1877 Evansville, Vanderburgh County Indiana Death: Jan. 5, 1951 Evansville, Vanderburgh County Indiana May have died in IND while visiting children or G/children. Order her death cert from the Vanderburgh County Indiana clerks office. Parents names as well as their birthplaces are usually listed. 1880 - Louise McCarty does not appear on this Indiana census. She will only appear with her parents on this census. There is a 20 yr gap in the census records [1880 - 1900] as the 1890 census burned in the 1920's. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sdmann27 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/359.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Oscar was my great grandfather. I still live in Idaho close to their home place. Did you ever find out anything about Louise? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cda727 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/548.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sarah, I started some microfilm checking on another project today at the Blackfoot library. They have old newspapers on record back to the 1890's, next time I go, one day next week, I will look at November 1903 and see if any birth announcements were put in the paper then. The Bingham Historical Society Museum is hardly ever open, but I did make contact with the director today about my project. They will open up in a few weeks for a Christmas display, and at that time I can see what kind, if any, records they have on Craven(s) in 1903. There was a big rush for land in that area in 1902, where a lot of people showed up and "staked their claims" to land so to speak. Any idea when they arrived in the Blackfoot area, maybe from the bible? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cda727 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/368.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found out this is how you (and anyone) go about locating records from the hospital/insane asylum records in Blackfoot. (current as of Nov. 2013) You call 208-239-6255. Tracy is the one who takes your information and info about the deceased who was at Blackfoot. She will ask you their date of birth, or if not known, the approx dates they were there, what your relationship is to them, your phone and address. Attorney Jim Price then follows up with the hospital, and you will be mailed a letter explaining what you have to do next. If you get as far as finding a record, there is no cost to file your paperwork at the Bingham County Magistrate Court office in Blackfoot, so a judge can sign a record release form. I am going through the process right now for a relative. In short, start with that phone number and have your info pre-prepared. Good luck. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cda727 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/364.3.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found out this is how you (and anyone) go about locating records from the hospital/insane asylum records in Blackfoot. (current as of Nov. 2013) You call 208-239-6255. Tracy is the one who takes your information and info about the deceased who was at Blackfoot. She will ask you their date of birth, or if not known, the approx dates they were there, what your relationship is to them, your phone and address. Attorney Jim Price then follows up with the hospital, and you will be mailed a letter explaining what you have to do next. If you get as far as finding a record, there is no cost to file your paperwork at the Bingham County Magistrate Court office in Blackfoot, so a judge can sign a record release form. I am going through the process right now for a relative. In short, start with that phone number and have your info pre-prepared. Good luck. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sburzine Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/548.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much for the information!! I found his real birth date, November 11, 1903 (1903 matches SSDI). It was written in a family bible my grandmother had. My grandmother said Cravens, but she's only mentioned it to me one time. The first time she told me the story she asked if I'd heard anything about it and I said no so she assumed it was false. Then randomly brought it up again last Fourth of July saying she knows her father went by that name once or twice. It seems like either unintentionally or intentionally there's a lot of detail being left out of the story. If you happen to make the drive that would be wonderful, but please don't trouble yourself for the high chance we could find nothing since there's so many holes in this story. Thank you again! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bullard4of5 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/364.3.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Why was he placed in the asylum? Did he die there and if so where is he buried? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sburzine Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/548.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: His adoptive parents were John Mitchell Clark Collier and Izella Grace Swift Collier. In 1900 they were in Kickapoo and South Wichita Townships in the Lincoln area of Oklahoma Territory. By 1910 they were in Colorado and John is listed with them as their son. He was born November 11, 1903. My grandmother says he was a boy old enough to remember his last name and birth date and that he was born in Blackfoot, Idaho. She says her father told her it happened in Oklahoma for certain. So I'm assuming at least 5 years old when it happened, but that's my assumption. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RBestrom7380 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/548.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The 1900 Census of Kickapoo, Lincoln Co, OK John P Swift, born April 1857 in Illinois to both parents born in TN, farmer/renting, married 20 years Rebekah R, April 1864, born in IL to both parents born in MO, mother of 8/5 living Daughters: Antha J, 1885, MO; Orpha A, 1894, Indiana; Ora R, 1898. Lavona E. Roberts, Dau, 1880, MO, married 3 years, one child Vernon O Roberts, Son-in-law, 1870, MO --Izella G Collier, Dau, born Oct 1882 in MO, married two years (1897/1898) --John Collier, Son-in-Law, Dec 1873, 26, born in Texas to both parents born in VA, farmer. On the Census, a James C Dodrill was enumerated above this family. He _owned_ his land. His wife was Mariah, son james 1886 Kansas; John A, 1894, OK; Archie N, 1896, OK. The Bureau of Land Management has a database of land patents: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/default.aspx issued under the Homestead Act and other Congressional Land Acts. It showed James C. Dodrill was issued a patent on 7/1/1903 in Lincoln County for 80 acres, located at Township 12 North, Range 2 East, Section 27, and the South half of the North East quarter of that Section 27 (within the Indian Meridian). A Section is one square mile in size and contains 640 acres. A Township is six square sections in size, a 36 square mile portion of land. The fact US land is measured within these Township and Ranges is often used as a reason to not use the metric system of measurement. Entering these map locations at: http://www.esg.montana.edu/gl/trs-data.html will give you basic location of this land and nearby places. Doddehl Spring, Midway and Bullard Spring are closest. Now click on the blue colored Switch to TerraServer. In this new window, Microsoft Research Maps, click on the largest blue box for size, then on Topomap on the top sides of the map. This new window shows a topographic map of this area. The squares are Sections. You can see some having a red colored number in the center, that is the Section number. Now find the name "Midway." The road (red colored) runs east from Midway then turns upward in the red square directly east (right) of the square holding the name of Midway. You can also see blue colored Doddehl Spring at the bottom of that square. Now, move to the square directly below this one and left click in the center of that square. Find that square again in the new window and again left click in the center. This new window now shows this square with the Section number 27 in the center. You would be seeing this as: http://msrmaps.com/image.aspx?T=2&S=12&Z=14&X=842&Y=4910&W=3 Now divide this square into quarters. Dodrill owned the South half of the NE Quarter. So this would be the bottom portion of the Section on the top right corner of Section 27. You can also see the word Kickapoo on the map. Since the Swift and Collier family was enumerated closely as neighbors of the Dodrill's, they would have lived close to this location. BUT, this is not a guarantee that was where the Craven/Cravens had lived. I did look for any Craven/s having also obtained land in this manner, but none in this area. But, there were others in other counties. BUT, if this family moved from Idaho to Oklahoma during this 1905 timeframe, they would not have had time to obtain the land patent. The 1910 Census of Lamar, Prowers Co, CO. Enumerated in April 1910. J.M. Collier, age 35, born in Alabama to both parents born in AL Izlla (as written), age 29, born in MO to both parents born in IL Zealon, dau, age 8, born in OK Winaford (as written), 6(1903/1904) born in ID Luther, age 4 (1905/1906) born in OK --JM was listed as born in TX with both parents born in VA in the 1900 census. Izella's POB and parents POB do match. Since the US Census is so filled with errors, this is "probably" the correct family. Unfortunately the POB of "Winafords" parents are those of these parents. So, the Collier's might not have known the "Craven/s" family. Now, the family lore problem. You indicate your grandmother was the source of the names and history, as told to her allegedly by you G-Grandfather. Yes, all could be true, as remembered by John "Cravens." Or, somewhere along the line the family lore changed some of the facts. On many occasions I've looked for family lore locations and actually found the proper persons elsewhere. I only mention this as ... the facts might change the story. The period of residence goes from Luther born in Oklahoma (1905/1906) until the 1910 Census enumerated in April 1910. Local property records or other information I'd suggest looking at the history of the Lincoln County, OK, area for Indian wars, massacres, deaths or unusual deaths or even records for this family name (city directories, cemeteries, etc). The local historical societies should have some knowledge of events during this period. Young John "could" have been told his family was killed by Indians when in fact other scenarios were in play (Father killed family, Parents left the children, father left/mother gave out to adoption, etc). The Colliers could have soften the history for him. (Yes, I've seen this in reality). You have done correctly in searching for information in the Blackfoot area. You need to also research in Lincoln Couuty starting with any court records around the Kickapoo area. Adoption records in most States are sealed, so the local State laws would come into play as far as records. Indian records also might come into play in both areas. One of his parents might have been of Indian blood. Based on the scenario, I would not be surprised. Thus also a potential reason he was placed for adoption. Looks like a "fun" research. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cda727 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/364.3.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What kind of information? The same E. Cox who is listed in the 1920 census as a patient in Blackfoot? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cda727 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.idaho.counties.bingham/548.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I see some references in old books to the local papers around that time being the "Idaho News" and the "Blackfoot News". The current local paper there is the Blackfoot Morning News, phone number 208-785-1100. The number to the Bingham County Historical Society is 208-785-9906. If you want to make a few calls and figure out if any of them have 1902 newspapers in possession, I don't mind driving down there and looking through their archives for 1902 birth records. "Craven" is a name I've seen around this area, not so much "Cravens" but who knows. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.