This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GRAEVE; KRAMER; ENGEL; DUESEL; HARDENACK Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zk.2ADI/773 Message Board Post: Are Peter Graeve (Greve) b. 1843 d. 1919 his wife: Mary (Maria) Anna Kramer b. 1845 d. 1915 and Francis H. (Frank) Graeve (Greve) b. 1839 d. 1892 his wife: Elizabeth Engel b. 1845 d. 1907 brothers ?? Is John Peter Engel b. 1841 d. 1897 his wife: Kunigunda Duesel b. 1848 d. 1935 a brother of Elizabeth?? Elizabeth's parents are: Antonius & Magdalena (Hardenack) Engel Thanks to anyone who can help. [email protected]