This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zk.2ADI/687.1 Message Board Post: Michael, We are in the Orpha line. She was my gr gr grandmother. She and Samuel had 9 children and the first 8 were girls. We are from Mary who was #2. All of the info I have is sketchy; but I'm gathering more all of the time. Let me know what you need to know. I want to know everything about Caroline since she is entirely new to me. Mary was born Mar 28 1869 in Grove Twp Manteno Shelby Co IA and M James J Frazier on Apr 30 1885 in Shelby Co IA. She D Oct 31 1953 in Harrison Twp Dunlap Harrison Co IA. They had many children. I have to look up the exact number. We are of the Dora and John Renz line. Linda [email protected]