This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Thielen ,tomlinson,Kramer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zk.2ADI/360.437.445.446.1 Message Board Post: I have a John Thielen married to Mary Kramer with a son John Jacob thielen. John Jacob married Ella Tomlinson. Is this the same family?