----- Original Message ----- From: iagenwebboards@iagenweb.org To: gkilgore@primenet.com Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 3:58 PM Subject: [Pottawattamie Queries:] Re: August Ruppert Family The following new message has been posted on Pottawattamie Queries at <http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/queries/index.cgi>. To respond to this message, click on the link below. Respond directly to the message using the form provided. *************************************************************************** MESSAGE: (#28731) Re: August Ruppert Family <http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/queries/index.cgi?rev=28731> AUTHOR: Ginny Orndorff DATE: 4/22/2003 at 18:58:58 Reply To: (#18605) August Ruppert Family Author: Mary HItchcock Date: 1/4/2003 at 10:53:37 Surnames: RUPPERT,HITCHCOCK,KEOHEN,ROLLER James Keohen and Helene C. Ruppert are my grandparents. My grandmother, Helene, always referred to August, Jr. as Augie. They had two children, Mary Elaine (b. 1920) and James, Jr. (b. 1921) who was in the Marines and died during WWII at Guadalcanal. The family moved from Council Bluffs to Phoenix, AZ in approximately 1936. Helene died in 1968 and James in 1972 (I believe). Mary Elaine married John Aidan Peirce of San Francisco in 1946 and currently lives in San Carlos, California. Their three children are me (Virginia Peirce Orndorff), Susan Elaine Peirce Mamlok of San Carlos, and Kevin Anthony Peirce of Phoenix. *************************************************************************** This is an automatically-generated notice. To be removed from the Message Board list, you may (Un)Subscribe at Pottawattamie Queries at <http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/queries/index.cgi>, or send your request to iagenwebboards@iagenweb.org. If you wish to respond to this message, please post your response directly to the board. Thank you!

Is your film for the Council Bluffs Courthouse or the Avoca Courthouse? That may be your difficulty. There were two courthouses in Pottawattamie county until the 1970's. I am not sure which licenses Betty transcribed, but I would guess that they were from the Avoca courthouse. Good luck. Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: <drhosler@attbi.com> To: <IAPOTTAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: [IAPOTTAW] 1890 marriages > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Edgerton > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Vl.2ADE/254 > > Message Board Post: > > In the Pottawatamie County, Iowa, Marriages, 1881-1892 by Betty Winter there is listed a marriage of Herman Edgarton and Eunice Lowe on Aug 2 1890. I have on loan from LDS microfilm of Marriages for Pottawattmie Co. IA #1018506. The marriage is not on this film. Can some kind soul please help me?? This is an important piece of information in my Edgerton Research. Thank You!! > > > ==== IAPOTTAW Mailing List ==== > Visit the Pottawattamie County Web Page > www.iagenweb.org/pottawattamie > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: EDGERTON, LOWE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Vl.2ADE/254.1 Message Board Post: The Pott. Co. courthouse records show this marriage as: Herman EDGERT to Eunice LOUW, 02 August 1890, page 366 of the courthouse marriage records.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Edgerton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Vl.2ADE/254 Message Board Post: In the Pottawatamie County, Iowa, Marriages, 1881-1892 by Betty Winter there is listed a marriage of Herman Edgarton and Eunice Lowe on Aug 2 1890. I have on loan from LDS microfilm of Marriages for Pottawattmie Co. IA #1018506. The marriage is not on this film. Can some kind soul please help me?? This is an important piece of information in my Edgerton Research. Thank You!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: FOX Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Vl.2ADE/253 Message Board Post: Does anyone have a Hiram Fox in their family that may have lived in Council Bluffs, Iowa 1890? I believe he worked for the water works company and didn't stay in one place very long. Any information would be greatly apreciated. Thanks, Pennie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Vl.2ADE/252 Message Board Post: Looking for name of the Water Works Company in Council Bluffs, Iowa in 1890. Thanks, Pennie

There is a message board for the 34th Infantry Division Veterans Association at: http://www.34infdiv.org/msgbrd/wwwboard.shtml I used such a board to help my father get in touch with buddies from his Armored Division (tanks) from WW II. Mona

----- Original Message ----- From: iagenwebboards@iagenweb.org To: gkilgore@primenet.com Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 6:55 PM Subject: [Pottawattamie Queries:] Archie Young The following new message has been posted on Pottawattamie Queries at <http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/queries/index.cgi>. To respond to this message, click on the link below. Respond directly to the message using the form provided. *************************************************************************** MESSAGE: (#28199) Archie Young <http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/queries/index.cgi?rev=28199> AUTHOR: Linda Dickey DATE: 4/12/2003 at 21:55:26 Surnames: YOUNG Archie YOUNG b. 1907 d. Council Bluffs in 1973. Probable son of William H. Young and Bertha Daws Looking for ancestors. *************************************************************************** This is an automatically-generated notice. To be removed from the Message Board list, you may (Un)Subscribe at Pottawattamie Queries at <http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/queries/index.cgi>, or send your request to iagenwebboards@iagenweb.org. If you wish to respond to this message, please post your response directly to the board. Thank you!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Vl.2ADE/251 Message Board Post: Looking for obituary or any information on Dorrance Weatherby Mann. Born: Jan. 4, 1897, Iowa Died: Dec. 4, 1980, Orange Co., Costa Mesa, Ca. Served in the 168th infantry, 34th division, Red Bull, during Warld War II. Seeking information for my father-in-law who served under Dorrance Mann during World War II. Also any information of others who served in this infantry and division during this time. Thank you, Charlene Brosam

In the 1910 census in Pottawattamie County, Iowa, Minden Township, page 186, is Joe Barrier, son of Elijah and Fanny Barrier: Barrier, Joe, 48, b. KY, married once for 22 yrs, b. KY, father b. KY, mother b. KY, farmer Barrier, Bell, wife, 40, married once for 22 yrs, gave birth to 10 children, 10 survive, b. IL, parents both b. IL Barrier, Willard, 19, b. NE Barrier, Winnie, 16, b. IA Barrier, Hilda, 14, b. IA Barrier, Alvin, 12, b. IA Barrier, Lula, 10, b. IA Barrier, Alvy, son, 8, b. IA Barrier, Clarence, 6, b. IA Barrier, Iven, 4, b. IA Barrier, Max, 3, b. IA Barrier, Edith, b. IA, 10 months old In the 1910 census for Dallas Co., IA, there is a James W. Barrier who could be another son of Elijah: Barrier, James W., 54, b. KY, father b. KY, mother b. KY Barrier, Cynthia E., wife, 53, b. OH, father b. IL, mother b. OH, married 12 yrs, had 5 children, 5 survive. In Pottawattamie Co., Iowa, marriages, I find the marriage of Joe Barrier, son of Elijah: J. B. Barrier to Belle S. Sargent, 29 September 1887. Other BARRIER marriages in Pott. Co.: Drusilla A. Barrier married Wesley A. Boone, 2 September 1891. Joan Jones married Mat Barrier, 25 Oct 1894. Lizzie Perdew married J. W. Barrier, 28 Dec 1897 Silas Barrier married Edna Pierce, 25 Nov 1896. I don't have a burial for Elijah Barrier in Pott. Co., but perhaps he's buried in Minden Township. Perhaps someone else can check the cemetery records for you there. Mona Sarratt Knight

----- Original Message ----- From: iagenwebboards@iagenweb.org To: gkilgore@primenet.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 8:44 AM Subject: [Pottawattamie Queries:] Barrier (Byers), Elijah b. 1829 KY The following new message has been posted on Pottawattamie Queries at <http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/queries/index.cgi>. To respond to this message, click on the link below. Respond directly to the message using the form provided. *************************************************************************** MESSAGE: (#28084) Barrier (Byers), Elijah b. 1829 KY <http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/queries/index.cgi?rev=28084> AUTHOR: Marilyn Fisher DATE: 4/11/2003 at 11:44:35 Surnames: BARRIER,TUTTLE Looking for any info on my g-g-grandfather Elijah Barrier ( or Byers) b. abt 1829 in Wayne Co, KY. Married Fanny J. Tuttle Sept 24, 1853 in Wayne Co, KY. Left Kentucky after 1880, said to have died in Council Bluff, IA. Would like to find death date and place of burial. *************************************************************************** This is an automatically-generated notice. To be removed from the Message Board list, you may (Un)Subscribe at Pottawattamie Queries at <http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/queries/index.cgi>, or send your request to iagenwebboards@iagenweb.org. If you wish to respond to this message, please post your response directly to the board. Thank you!

My Dad always told me that Council Bluffs was quite a gambling town back in the 1800's and 1900's. Before today, I had never seen that listed as an occupation, however. While searching through the 1870 census for Council Bluffs, I came across the following, which I thought was interesting: M. F. Snyder, 34, gambler, b. NY Chas. Pool, 28, gambler, b. PA Thos. Lyman, 27, gambler, b. PA They each listed assets as a few thousand dollars, so they must have been on a winning streak. I thought this was fun and just wanted to share it. Mona

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SNEIDER/SNYDER/SCHNEIDER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Vl.2ADE/250 Message Board Post: I am looking for my g great grandfather JUSTUS SCHNEIDER, born 1845 in Ohio. Justice was living in Honey Creek, Iowa in 1861, according to his Civil War Papers. I would like to know if anyone can do a census look up for him? He may have been living alone or with his parents, MARTIN SNEIDER father, Mary, mother, Peter, Frederick, John and Amelia, siblings. aNY INFORMATION ON THIS FAMILY WOULD BE APPRECIATED. THANK YOU, PAM

This morning while I reading some of the obituaries on the Obituary board it came to me that we have whole families listed here. I know how important an obituary can be and how we usually go after the earlier obituaries. So I thought I would see what I could come up using the current obituaries that have been posted on the Obituary board. For the "Newbies" to our list and to genealogy this might be of interest to you and a maybe even starting place?? I took just five surnames at random and began to form the families (just from our posted obituaries), just to see what information if any I could put together on children, parents, spouses, etc could be put together on the family of the deceased. Please remember the obituaries I am using are mostly for the years of 2000-2003. Here are the results: Edward J. & Alm (Dau) Stroeble Lucille (Stroeble) Williams Hadfield, b. 13 Dec 1915; d. 7 Dec 2002 Wilbert Stroebele, 12 Jan 1913, d. 2 Mar 2003. Spouse: Bernadette Langer Everett Stroeble, Edwin and Bernadine (Stein) Martens Lucile Marie (Martens) Cline, b. abt 1932; d. 20 Nov 2002. Spouse: Jessie P. Cline, died Feb. 20, 1984 Jacqueline (Martens) Osborn Marvelene (Martens) Stasny, Barbara (Martens) Pieper, Madge (Martens) Bargenquast, Margie (Martens) Cline, Connie (Martens) Snyder, Pam (Martens) Gilbert, Jolene (Martens) Wiesner, Bill Martens Darrold Martens Jerry Martens Phillip Martens Sam Lobendo and Bessie Sutton Cyril T. Lobendo, , b. abt 1920; d. 18 Nov 2002. Spouse: Donna Van Lobendo, Darlene E. (Lobendo) Sharrett, b. abt 1936; d. 5 Aug 2002: Spouse: William Sharrett, died 20 April 2000. Walter and Lillian Casson Beverly C. (Casson) Andersen, b. 26 Dec 1934; d. 6 Dec 2002. Spouse: Ronald Anderson Walter L. Casson Jr. Wayne L. Casson Weslie L. Casson Marie (Casson) Christensen Eileen (Casson) Grobe Evelyn (Casson) Wild Leta (Casson) Hoffman Janet (Casson) McKern Fred and Laura (Christensen) Johnson Lillian Marie (Johnson) Andersen, b. 13 May 1912; d. 30 Jan 2002 (Lillian's obituary states that she and Harry were the only children born to Fred and Laura Johnson. Harry Johnson, d. before 30 Jan 2002 These families were put together for no other purpose than to show how much information can be gleaned from an obituary....even a recent obituary. So to all of you Newbies out there....Be sure to read the obituaries! You never know what you will find in them that may aid in furthering your research. Just something to think about..... Constance

Our terrific listers along with Gail and her hard working team have been at it again! What a great list of updates this week! Be sure to stop by for a visit and take a "tour" of the wonderful Pottawattamie Co. IAGenWeb website http://iagenweb.org/pottawattamie/ . If you have records or photo's of Pottawattamie Co. you would like to share with other's please send them to Gail and she will see that it is added to the website. * 16 Biographies added - Extracted from the History of Pott. Co., 1891 * HENRY P. GERTZ, HENRY GITTENS, CLARKSON GODFREY, W. H. GRAFF, F. GRASS, BERNHARD GRESS, JOHN GREEN, M.D., HON. WILLIAM GRONEWEG, THOMAS A. PILLING, WILLIAM GUSTIN, ISAAC HANSEN, B. HARCOURT, CHARLES M. HARL, ARTHUR S. HAZLETON, JOSEPH HEADLEE, C. W. SNYDER - Contributed By Mona Sarratt Knight - http://iagenweb.org/pottawattamie/bios-1891--names.htm * 180 BUSINESS Directory entries added - 1875 Atlas Historical Atlas * This COMPLETES the Business and Patron Directories for the Atlas - Contributed by Cay Merryman - http://iagenweb.org/pottawattamie/Atlas-1875-AndreassHistorical.htm * Links Pages updated * o Pottawattamie Co. County Resource Link added - WALNUT GENEALOGY SOCIETY http://iagenweb.org/pottawattamie/res-county-resources.htm o Pottawattamie Co. and Iowa State Website Links added - Surname List (with Iowa Links): Includes Pottawattamie County Specific links - Family History Assistance for Primitive Baptist Churches in Iowa. Includes Sketches of Early Primitive Baptist History in Iowa. - The Primitive Baptist Library http://iagenweb.org/pottawattamie/res-links.htm * Obituaries moved from Obit pages to the Obituary Board * http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/obituaries/index.cgi * 22 new Obituaries posted to the Obituary Board * - 15 new obituaries contributed by Patrick Turner - - 2 new obituaries contributed by Donna - http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/obituaries/index.cgi * 51 new Gravestone Photographs - Gravestone Photograph Project * - Contributed by Gail Meyer Kilgore * http://iagenweb.org/grave/index.php/query/cid_78/ Enjoy! Constance

I don't think your William E. Sales was the son of Wm. or Jane Sales from England. The 1910 census for Dixon County, Nebraska, lists what appears to be your William E. Sales and wife Laura, and that census says William's father was born in Indiana. Sales, William E., 50, married once, 26 yrs, b. IA, father b. IN, mother b. IA, farmer Sales, Laura, wife, 47, married once, 26 yrs, had 7 children and 7 survive, b. IA, father b. OH, mother b. OH Sales, Elmer, son, 23, b. IA Sales, Josephine, dau., 18, b. IA Sales, Asa, son, 9, b. IA Sales, Otto, son, 5, b. IA I suspect your William E. Sales is related to the Sales clan that came from Putnam Co., IN, to lower Harrison Co. and upper Pottawattamie Co., Iowa, along with the SKELTON, JONES, and other families. There was a large wagon train of families that arrived in this area during the great Mormon movement. In the 1870 census for Iowa, there are several SALES men born in Indiana living near Missouri Valley, Iowa, and also Rockford Township, Pott. Co. Some are buried at the Branson Cemetery south of Missouri Valley. The 1870 census shows: JOHN A 26 M W IN IA HARRISON ST JOHN TWP 1870 LOOT 52 M W TN IA POTTAWATTAMIE ROCKFORD TWP 1870 WILLIAM 25 M W IN IA HARRISON ST JOHN TWP 1870 All of these men came with that group from Indiana; I don't see that any of them have a son, William E., who would have been about age 10 in 1870. If your William SALES is confirmed as the son of William and Jane, from England, then he appears with them in the 1870 census in Council Bluffs, 4th Ward, page 114: C. F. Sales, 24, teamster, b. OH, head A. J. Sales, wife, keeping house, b. IL Wm. Sales, 50, carpenter, b. England Jane Sales, 45, keeping house, b. England Wm. Sales, 14, b. IA Hilda Sales, 13, b. IA T. A. Crandal, 28, life ins agent, b. PA H. E. Crandal, 28, b. VA, wife A. F. L. Crandal, age 6, male, b. NY M. A. Crandal, age 3, b. IL E. Crandal, 1, female, b. IA I hope this helps you. Mona Sarratt Knight

----- Original Message ----- From: STEVEN & CAROLYN HATCHER To: mey88xj6@webenet.net Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:16 PM Subject: RE: [IAPOTTAW] Fw: [Pottawattamie Queries:] William Sales Family Gwen, Did William Sales have a sister named Lucinda? I have a Lucinda Sayles (possibly spelled Sales) born May 10, 1841 in Bucklin (or Putnam) County, IN, married Champion Hatcher Oct 16, 1858 in Pottawattamie County, IA, and died Jan 18, 1917 in Ozawkie, Jefferson County, KS. If you want to see what the Hatcher family has on Lucinda (unfortunately, no parent or sibling information), you can find it at: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=wmhatch1&id=I00023 Steve

----- Original Message ----- From: iagenwebboards@iagenweb.org To: gkilgore@primenet.com Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 4:08 PM Subject: [Pottawattamie Queries:] William Sales Family The following new message has been posted on Pottawattamie Queries at <http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/queries/index.cgi>. To respond to this message, click on the link below. Respond directly to the message using the form provided. *************************************************************************** MESSAGE: (#27614) William Sales Family <http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/queries/index.cgi?rev=27614> AUTHOR: Gwen Corbett DATE: 4/4/2003 at 19:08:20 Surnames: SALES CRANDALL 1850-1900 Looking for information about William E. Sales' father and mother. William was b. 10/1854 in Pottawattamie County, married Laura Crandall of Shelby County in 1883. They had 5 children and atleast two were born in Pottawattamie county. I believe his father's name was also William (wife-Jane?). I would presume they also lived in the Council Bluffs area after coming from England. *************************************************************************** This is an automatically-generated notice. To be removed from the Message Board list, you may (Un)Subscribe at Pottawattamie Queries at <http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/queries/index.cgi>, or send your request to iagenwebboards@iagenweb.org. If you wish to respond to this message, please post your response directly to the board. Thank you!

Is your Sylvester V. Pratt the same man who married Margaret T. "Maggie" Currie on 10 Dec 1878 near Crescent? He was the son of Charles F. Pratt for whom there is an 1891 biography at the USGenWeb site for Pottawattamie County. S.V. Pratt and wife Maggie also appear in the 1880 census for Pott. Co. Mona

----- Original Message ----- From: iagenwebboards@iagenweb.org To: gkilgore@primenet.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:43 PM Subject: [Pottawattamie Queries:] Sylvester & Caroline Pratt The following new message has been posted on Pottawattamie Queries at <http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/queries/index.cgi>. To respond to this message, click on the link below. Respond directly to the message using the form provided. *************************************************************************** MESSAGE: (#27512) Sylvester & Caroline Pratt <http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/queries/index.cgi?rev=27512> AUTHOR: C. Rogers DATE: 4/2/2003 at 00:43:16 Surnames: PRATT,JENSEN,NIELSEN I am searching for information about Sylvester V. Pratt and Caroline Jensen. They were married in Pottawattamie County in October 1913. I believe that Caroline may have been the daughter of Ane Cathrine Nielsen Jensen. I don't know the first name of Caroline's father except that it might have begun with an "R." Any help would be greatly appreciated. *************************************************************************** This is an automatically-generated notice. To be removed from the Message Board list, you may (Un)Subscribe at Pottawattamie Queries at <http://iagenweb.org/boards/pottawattamie/queries/index.cgi>, or send your request to iagenwebboards@iagenweb.org. If you wish to respond to this message, please post your response directly to the board. Thank you!