Can anyone tell me where Port Allen is located? It must have been in or near Louisa County, as far as I can tell. Jesse Graves was the Post Master there in 1854, according to some one's research... Thanks for any help, bjlarson@uswest.net

Already, I am receiving messages from folks wanting me to change INDEX listings that I am posting on the IaLCGS website. May I emphasize that this is an INDEX ONLY to already published data and it would be ludicrous to change an index to something different from the printed data. NO corrections will be made to this list as I am extracting it from a "LOCKED" database module that I cannot change at this point. This is to ensure that the compiler's version and mine match. I can extract data from it and convert it to HTML, but I cannot change the original data. This is a monumental task that the Louisa County Genealogical Society has undertaken and this is only the first phase of others to come. The Index is nothing more than that, AN INDEX to the published cemetery books. In the next phase Vicki and Dana Teel have compared Cemetery Book Listings, WPA listings and other conflicting data which will be addressed in the future when the actual cemetery records themselves are prepared for the Internet. There are approximately 2200 corrections or contradictions identified to date in various sources. We are still trying to figure out exactly how to handle this so it is easily understood. Again, may I emphasize that the records we are putting on line are there to help you locate data, but you are encouraged to actually verify it for your satisfaction with the original sources once you know what they are. We don't intend to do all your work for you, but hope to point you in the right direction to find what you need. We have also extracted a military list of all known military burials in that database but it is a secondary project and will not be addressed immediately. Also, the only lookups that I am attempting to do right now are the ones to the actual data indexed in that list. You MUST give me the name and page number from that index, not some other page number, if you want me to give you the data. You will find the page number following the Township ID. i.e. CC-3 means Columbus City Township, Page 3. Without the Index data, I can't take the time for the main project to run down your relatives for you. I will do them as I find time and the database is my main priority at this time. Right at this moment, only names beginning with A through E have been uploaded but that will change daily so you may want to check back often. When possible, please address any comments to the list rather than to me as I am having difficulty keeping up with my e-mail. To find this index, go the the Introductory page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ialcgs/lccintro.htm Sorry to have to draw such a hard line on what I can and cannot do but I am sure you all want this data to go up as quickly as possible. Thank you for your patience. Keep in mind that a person may be listed under their maiden name if you don't agree with the posting. Both maiden and married names are being addressed when known in this database so you may find the same person listed twice. Norma Jennings Listowner Coordinator of the IALOUISA & IALCGS web pages.

Marjorie: Janice Hoehle and Vicki Teel will both research land records and get copies for you for a fee. Janice is very good and very well organized. They are both very reasonable and don't charge a lot to make money, just to cover expenses, and incidentals. janleeh@louisacomm.net Norma Jennings MBorger548@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 05/08/2000 9:55:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > njennings@lisco.net writes: > > << ID#17849 Sex. Unk; B.F b. 22 April 22 1835 d.___ Marshall Township; > Oakland > Cemetery, pg. 17, 1990 Cemetery Book >> > > Thanks, Norma. I believe this to be my ancestor's first son as he was born a > generation later. Our gracious friend, Keith Street, furnished me a list of > land records from Louisa County, showing a sale by Franklin GRISWOLD, May 19, > 1871 for a burying ground, to B. F. GRISWOLD, and other records. > > Does the Recorder's Office furnish copies of original land records? It could > appear the burial ground was to be used for the elder Griswold. Do you know > the procedure for requesting land records? It would be very much appreciated. > > Sincerely, > Margery > > ==== IALOUISA Mailing List ==== > Mailing Lists: > mailto:IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com

In a message dated 05/08/2000 9:55:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, njennings@lisco.net writes: << ID#17849 Sex. Unk; B.F b. 22 April 22 1835 d.___ Marshall Township; Oakland Cemetery, pg. 17, 1990 Cemetery Book >> Thanks, Norma. I believe this to be my ancestor's first son as he was born a generation later. Our gracious friend, Keith Street, furnished me a list of land records from Louisa County, showing a sale by Franklin GRISWOLD, May 19, 1871 for a burying ground, to B. F. GRISWOLD, and other records. Does the Recorder's Office furnish copies of original land records? It could appear the burial ground was to be used for the elder Griswold. Do you know the procedure for requesting land records? It would be very much appreciated. Sincerely, Margery

Marjorie, I didn't find much more than you had. This is what Len has in his database. It was all on the same page so I am including even those you didn't ask about. ID#17849 Sex. Unk; B.F b. 22 April 22 1835 d.___ Marshall Township; Oakland Cemetery, pg. 17, 1990 Cemetery Book ID#17850 Sex: F; 1840-1909, age 69 Elizabeth J. Griswold b. 31 July 1840; d. 27 January 1909, Oakland Cemetery, pg. 17; 1990 Cemetery Book There is also a Willie Griswold buried in the Columbus City Cemetery 1877-1878; p. 57, 1990 Cemetery Book #17198; Sex: F, 1819-1872, age 53; wife of Ira Griswold....Catherine Griswold Fulton/Cairo Cemetery, pg 4, 1990 Cemetery Book. MBorger548@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 05/08/2000 2:37:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > njennings@lisco.net writes: > > << one of us that has access to the > cemetery books or to the entire database will do lookups for you if you > give us the name, township, & page number where it is located >> > > Norma, > > (BENJAMIN) FRANKLIN GRISWOLD, b CT 26 Apr 1803, d ca 1870, Cairo, Marshall > Twp, pp 34-35 (He was also known simply as Franklin) > > > ELIZA/ELIZABETH BRUNSON GRISWOLD, b CT, d ca 1869, Cairo, Marshall Twp, pp > 34-35. > > Margery > > ==== IALOUISA Mailing List ==== > Mailing Lists: > mailto:IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com

In a message dated 05/08/2000 2:37:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, njennings@lisco.net writes: << one of us that has access to the cemetery books or to the entire database will do lookups for you if you give us the name, township, & page number where it is located >> Norma, (BENJAMIN) FRANKLIN GRISWOLD, b CT 26 Apr 1803, d ca 1870, Cairo, Marshall Twp, pp 34-35 (He was also known simply as Franklin) ELIZA/ELIZABETH BRUNSON GRISWOLD, b CT, d ca 1869, Cairo, Marshall Twp, pp 34-35. Margery

Hi everyone. A combined effort of the Louisa County historical and genealogical societies is also underway. A file has been prepared for every known soldier from Louisa County (I'm not sure if it entails any soldier who ever lived here, or just those who served from here). The records ( anything that has been submitted) are on file at the Heritage Center Library. You might consider sending your information by hard copy so it will be available there. Th genealogical society's mailing address is P.O. Box 202, Wapello 52653. c/o Eleanor Jones, who is in charge of that project. Keith/Connie Street ckcasey@louisacomm.net

So far, no one has contributed their Military information to the IALOUISA pages. If you have Military Pension information to contribute, we do have a place on our own GenConnect Boards where you can submit this information. It is located at: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ia/LouisaPens

The first 3056 names of a temporary Louisa County Genealogical Society Index to all of the published cemetery books was loaded this p.m. This includes the names in the first two letters of the alphabet, "A & B". If you are in a hurry to find a relative listed in that index, please post your query on the list and one of us that has access to the cemetery books or to the entire database will do lookups for you if you give us the name, township, & page number where it is located. No requests for all entries for a particular surname will be done at this time as you will eventually be able to do that yourself. I will need to limit my number of lookups so I can complete the index and continue working on the entire database, but I will do up to three a day until all records are available. For now, only names beginning with A or B will be addressed. I will do like Keith does, number the query and answer them in the order received as I find time to do it. It will probably be futile to bookmark these pages as they may change. There are now 38 pages linked to the Introductory page. They may all need to go into a separate directory when more complete. For now, they are accessible via: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ialcgs/lccintro.htm

To: Susie Martin-Rott; Somehow, I missed all of this the controversy preceeding this message. However, I do want to submit to you the information I have on my gr.grandfather, who served in the Civil War from Iowa. Name: James Alexander Adams Rank: Private Unit: Company I, 8th. Regiment of the Iowa Cavalry Birthdate: 19 May 1840 Birthplace: Mahoning Twp. Armstrong County, Pennsylvania Death date: 20 December 1920 Death place: Waterloo, Black Hawk County, Iowa Cemetery: Rowley Cemetery, Buchanan County, Iowa Cem. Location: 1/4 mi. W of the town of Rowley, Iowa Note: At the time of his enlistment at Davenport, Scott Co. IA, he was living in Clayton County, newly married with an infant daughter. After the war, he moved his wife and daughter to a farm in Liberty township, Buchanan County, Iowa where they lived the rest of their lives. Pat P. FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Martin-Rott" <rootboun@tampabay.rr.com> To: <IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 5:13 PM Subject: Why I am unsubbing from this list > I have done a LOT for Louisa Co genealogy, even though my website is > primarily for Muscatine Co IA. > I have done countless lookups for people (I am sure the man with the > JAMES surname recalls this) on this list and Norma's Louisa Co website > links to > a substantial number of cemeteries in adjacent Muscatine Co which I have > researched, transcribed and placed on line free for YOUR use. > > Apparently someone has complained to the list owner because I asked for > help with my Civil War project, wanting to know what I was doing with > Louisa Co soldiers (as if you guys OWNED these men) > > I am unsubbing and apologize in advance to Norma for this post but I am > ANGRY ANGRY ANGRY. Excuse me for changing email addresses and > having a couple messages show up as "Not a Subscriber" when in fact I > am. > My dad lived in Fredonia, my great grandparents in Letts, my great great > grandparents in Letts...I still have lots of Louisa Co relatives and an > interest in the area. I have as much right to post questions on this > list as anyone else and I resent the living heck out of the fact that > someone on here thinks they own the rights to information about civil > war soldiers from the area AND that they were too chicken to just email > me and ask for the scope of my project. > > I clearly posted what my project was about on 30 Mar 2000 and if the > person > who complained to Norma (instead of being big enough to write to me > directly) > had checked the list archive the original message is right there. For > that person > or anyone else who suddenly had a problem with me, here is the original > message, exactly as posted on 30 Mar: > > > Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:01:58 -0500 > > From: Susie Martin-Rott > > To: IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <38E3A4A6.6E5E38DE@netzero.net> > > Subject: Re: Civil War Burial Sites > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > I've been working on a project for about 2 years now of recording the > > burial sites of Civil War soldiers from Iowa and could use some help > > with Louisa County guys. > > > > This database includes soldiers who died and are buried in IA regardless > > > > of what state or side they served, as well as men from Iowa who served > > in > > or are buried in other states (example-there were a bunch of West > > Liberty guys > > who joined the MO Cavalry and are buried in MO-they were FROM Iowa > > though) > > > > I have picked through the Roll of Honor and hundreds of cemetery books > > and > > transcriptions looking for these guys (Iowa alone had over 75,000 men > > serve) and have actually located only about 5 thousand so far (including > > those > > who served other states and are buried in IA, like my ggg grandfather > > Daniel Grimm who served in OH and is buried at Parr). Part of the > > problem is that many of them did not get "government" stones and there > > is nothing on their marker to indicate > > their service. > > > > One of the purposes of the project is that those who have no stones or > > stones which are illegible are entitled to receive a new marker from the > > Veterans > > Administration..but we have to know where they are BURIED first!! > > > > If you have such a soldier in your family tree, serving from or buried > > in IA and would like to have them included in the database, the info > > needed is: > > NAME > > RANK > > UNIT > > BIRTHDATE and PLACE > > DEATH DATE and PLACE > > CEMETERY and LOCATION > > misc: if you know pension number, wife's name, discharge info etc > > > > If you don't know everything, you can submit what you DO know and I'll > > eventually research the person and try to fill in the blanks. > > > > I will tell you up front that I do earn a nominal sum (less than $300 > > for 3,000 men) > > in doing this by allowing ancestry.com to have the electronic rights to > > my database. This helps me pay for copies from the roll of honor, > > pension and other books and documents. > > > > Since each group of 3,000 takes hundreds of hours to research, comparing > > > > names to rosters, etc, I am NOT getting rich off this thing. I however > > retain > > any hard copy publishing rights, therefore I can GIVE the darn list away > > to anyone I want, including the group who is working on the replacement > > markers, libraries, etc. > > > > I have a guy right now making me NUTS who is buried in Louisa Co. > > MAPES (no first name given) NY 44 Inf G Fredonia Fredonia, Louisa, IA > > > > G.A.R. Does anyone know what Mr. Mape's 1st name was???? > > > > > > With that, I will be unsubbing from the list so anyone who needs help > from me is just > outta luck or will have to email me directly or visit my website at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iamusca2/index.html > > I want this complainer to know that I came VERY VERY close to asking the > Louisa Co site to remove all the cemetery links that go from that site > to mine because of > your attitude, but I have not done so because there are a lot of good > people on this list who don't deserve to be deprived of their ancestral > information simply because you have a personal problem. > > I would also like to thank those of you who voluntarily sent me your CW > soldier information for inclusion in the project. > > Norma, I again apologise for sending this to the list, but the > complainer was too > chicken to mail me so this is the only way I can get a message to them. > > > > ==== IALOUISA Mailing List ==== > Mailing Lists: > mailto:IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com >

You need to send this to her personal address. If she has unsubbed, she won't receive a message sent to the list. -----Original Message----- From: Patricia J. Pardun <pardun@citrus.infi.net> To: IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com <IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, May 08, 2000 10:18 AM Subject: Re: Why I am unsubbing from this list >To: Susie Martin-Rott; > Somehow, I missed all of this the controversy preceeding this message. >However, I do want to submit to you the information I have on my >gr.grandfather, who served in the Civil War from Iowa. > Name: James Alexander Adams > Rank: Private > Unit: Company I, 8th. Regiment of the Iowa Cavalry > Birthdate: 19 May 1840 > Birthplace: Mahoning Twp. Armstrong County, Pennsylvania > Death date: 20 December 1920 > Death place: Waterloo, Black Hawk County, Iowa > Cemetery: Rowley Cemetery, Buchanan County, Iowa > Cem. Location: 1/4 mi. W of the town of Rowley, Iowa >Note: At the time of his enlistment at Davenport, Scott Co. IA, he was >living in Clayton County, newly married with an infant daughter. After the >war, he moved his wife and daughter to a farm in Liberty township, Buchanan >County, Iowa where they lived the rest of their lives. >Pat P. FL >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Susie Martin-Rott" <rootboun@tampabay.rr.com> >To: <IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 5:13 PM >Subject: Why I am unsubbing from this list > > >> I have done a LOT for Louisa Co genealogy, even though my website is >> primarily for Muscatine Co IA. >> I have done countless lookups for people (I am sure the man with the >> JAMES surname recalls this) on this list and Norma's Louisa Co website >> links to >> a substantial number of cemeteries in adjacent Muscatine Co which I have >> researched, transcribed and placed on line free for YOUR use. >> >> Apparently someone has complained to the list owner because I asked for >> help with my Civil War project, wanting to know what I was doing with >> Louisa Co soldiers (as if you guys OWNED these men) >> >> I am unsubbing and apologize in advance to Norma for this post but I am >> ANGRY ANGRY ANGRY. Excuse me for changing email addresses and >> having a couple messages show up as "Not a Subscriber" when in fact I >> am. >> My dad lived in Fredonia, my great grandparents in Letts, my great great >> grandparents in Letts...I still have lots of Louisa Co relatives and an >> interest in the area. I have as much right to post questions on this >> list as anyone else and I resent the living heck out of the fact that >> someone on here thinks they own the rights to information about civil >> war soldiers from the area AND that they were too chicken to just email >> me and ask for the scope of my project. >> >> I clearly posted what my project was about on 30 Mar 2000 and if the >> person >> who complained to Norma (instead of being big enough to write to me >> directly) >> had checked the list archive the original message is right there. For >> that person >> or anyone else who suddenly had a problem with me, here is the original >> message, exactly as posted on 30 Mar: >> >> > Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:01:58 -0500 >> > From: Susie Martin-Rott >> > To: IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com >> > Message-ID: <38E3A4A6.6E5E38DE@netzero.net> >> > Subject: Re: Civil War Burial Sites >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > >> > I've been working on a project for about 2 years now of recording the >> > burial sites of Civil War soldiers from Iowa and could use some help >> > with Louisa County guys. >> > >> > This database includes soldiers who died and are buried in IA regardless >> > >> > of what state or side they served, as well as men from Iowa who served >> > in >> > or are buried in other states (example-there were a bunch of West >> > Liberty guys >> > who joined the MO Cavalry and are buried in MO-they were FROM Iowa >> > though) >> > >> > I have picked through the Roll of Honor and hundreds of cemetery books >> > and >> > transcriptions looking for these guys (Iowa alone had over 75,000 men >> > serve) and have actually located only about 5 thousand so far (including >> > those >> > who served other states and are buried in IA, like my ggg grandfather >> > Daniel Grimm who served in OH and is buried at Parr). Part of the >> > problem is that many of them did not get "government" stones and there >> > is nothing on their marker to indicate >> > their service. >> > >> > One of the purposes of the project is that those who have no stones or >> > stones which are illegible are entitled to receive a new marker from the >> > Veterans >> > Administration..but we have to know where they are BURIED first!! >> > >> > If you have such a soldier in your family tree, serving from or buried >> > in IA and would like to have them included in the database, the info >> > needed is: >> > NAME >> > RANK >> > UNIT >> > BIRTHDATE and PLACE >> > DEATH DATE and PLACE >> > CEMETERY and LOCATION >> > misc: if you know pension number, wife's name, discharge info etc >> > >> > If you don't know everything, you can submit what you DO know and I'll >> > eventually research the person and try to fill in the blanks. >> > >> > I will tell you up front that I do earn a nominal sum (less than $300 >> > for 3,000 men) >> > in doing this by allowing ancestry.com to have the electronic rights to >> > my database. This helps me pay for copies from the roll of honor, >> > pension and other books and documents. >> > >> > Since each group of 3,000 takes hundreds of hours to research, comparing >> > >> > names to rosters, etc, I am NOT getting rich off this thing. I however >> > retain >> > any hard copy publishing rights, therefore I can GIVE the darn list away >> > to anyone I want, including the group who is working on the replacement >> > markers, libraries, etc. >> > >> > I have a guy right now making me NUTS who is buried in Louisa Co. >> > MAPES (no first name given) NY 44 Inf G Fredonia Fredonia, Louisa, IA >> > >> > G.A.R. Does anyone know what Mr. Mape's 1st name was???? >> > >> > >> >> With that, I will be unsubbing from the list so anyone who needs help >> from me is just >> outta luck or will have to email me directly or visit my website at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~iamusca2/index.html >> >> I want this complainer to know that I came VERY VERY close to asking the >> Louisa Co site to remove all the cemetery links that go from that site >> to mine because of >> your attitude, but I have not done so because there are a lot of good >> people on this list who don't deserve to be deprived of their ancestral >> information simply because you have a personal problem. >> >> I would also like to thank those of you who voluntarily sent me your CW >> soldier information for inclusion in the project. >> >> Norma, I again apologise for sending this to the list, but the >> complainer was too >> chicken to mail me so this is the only way I can get a message to them. >> >> >> >> ==== IALOUISA Mailing List ==== >> Mailing Lists: >> mailto:IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com >> > > >==== IALOUISA Mailing List ==== >SUPPORT ROOTSWEB! HELP KEEP GENEALOGY AFFORDABLE. SUBSCRIBE TODAY!! If you would like to help RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative >by becoming a member, sponsor, donor, or patron, please visit: ><http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html> > >

Can you check if there is an obit or mention of the death of Hezekiah Reeder (DOD 23 Jul 1880) I found a death record in the Muscatine Court House, but did not have time there to check any further records. He did live in both Louisa and Muscatine Counties. Thanks. Wilma -----Original Message----- From: Steve Harrison <raleighwood@juno.com> To: IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com <IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, April 29, 2000 12:16 PM Subject: Research assistance offer >I have a microfilm of the "Muscatine Weekly Journal" on interlibrary. >The roll contains August 1, 1857 thru December 28, 1860. >While primarily Muscatine County news, there are some references to >Louisa County citizens. There are brief announcements of marriages and >deaths. >I have the roll until May 14 and would be glad to look up a marriage or >death for anyone. Please send a request to me by email with name and >date (as specific as possible) of the person you are looking for. > >I did find the following interesting notice in the October 12, 1860 >issue: >Reuben C. Latta was killed in a landslide at his mining claim at Alpha, >Nevada County, California. The remains were taken to his brother, R.W. >Latta's home in Napa City. There father, James Latta, was a resident of >Grandview at the time. [Anyone doing LATTA family research?] > >Steve Harrison >P.O. Box 1218 >Manteo, North Carolina 27954 >252-473-4830 >e-mail: raleighwood@juno.com > >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > >==== IALOUISA Mailing List ==== >Don't forget to check out the web sites for southeastern Iowa families. >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ialouisa >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ialcgs >http://www.rootsweb.com/~iahenry >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~jennings > >

Carol, Oskaloosa has a large collection of Quaker records for IA. Wilma -----Original Message----- From: carol ann berry <cedartree2@juno.com> To: IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com <IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, April 28, 2000 9:01 AM Subject: obits >I am needing an obit for 1905,Louisa co. and have already scoured the >Columbus Gazette a month past the date.He died in Oakville and is buried >in Edwards cem.Would i have more luck with another paper like Wapello's. > >Does anyone know where Quaker records for Muscatine county would be >held.I am looking for Cole-Painter and checked the Historical Library in >Iowa City but they only had the Cedar co.,West Branch,surrounding towns >for meeting records.2 boxes. > >Carol > > >==== IALOUISA Mailing List ==== >Don't forget to check out the web sites for southeastern Iowa families. >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ialouisa >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ialcgs >http://www.rootsweb.com/~iahenry >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~jennings > >

Simply put, why I did what I did!!! Official Rootsweb Policy as stated in their Acceptable Use Policy. 9.COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES REQUIRE PERMISSION. RootsWeb's intent is to provide a friendly and, as much as possible, noncommercial environment. Any activity that involves the exchange of money requires prior permission from RootsWeb. 11.ROOTSWEB MAY REFUSE SERVICE. For violations of this agreement or other policies posted on the RootsWeb site, RootsWeb may revoke the violator's right to use part or all of the RootsWeb site. Norma Jennings Listowner

> Subject: Clarification > Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 19:00:26 -0500 > From: "Norma F. Jennings" <njennings@lisco.net> > To: IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com > > I must apologize to our list members for my negligence in monitoring the > list. I have been so busy working on our own Cemetery Database that I > did not realize that our list was being used for a "paid Ancestry.Com > project". It really isn't fair to Rootsweb to take advantage of their > generosity in providing this list to our subscribers free of charge so > their competitors can profit. Since Ancestry will undoubtedly charge > for the use of this material at some later date, I must ask that this > list not be used in the future to help promote a project for any of > Rootsweb's competitors. The data I sold was sold over a YEAR ago for less than $300. More money than that has been spent making copies of Rosters, pension records, tombstone photos and other items which have been used to research data which has been made available for FREE via my website and the links to the Louisa Co site. The only reason the data was sold to anyone prior to the hard copy versions being made available FOR FREE to the area GS's is that I am on a fixed income and the only way I could afford to continue the research was to have money for postage, copies, etc. The same data that was copied has also been used to clarify tombstone transcriptions and other information which has been FREELY distributed to visitors of the sites and mailing list. I further have done a ton of lookups for folks who wrote to me from the list and looked up relatives for them-finding several for folks. I do apologise for going off on the list but the whole thing seems so PETTY under the circumstances. I will gladly continue to check the database for anyone on this list who emails me FREE OF CHARGE, as I have always done. > This really has nothing to do with what we do > for one another and I hope everyone will continue to help each other in > researching their roots. > When you unlink from 40+ cemetery transcriptions , it DOES have a great deal to do with what we do for one another. It makes things much harder for people researching the area to find the folks they seek and breaks up a unity that has been working between the respective websites since 1997. > > > To avoid any conflict of interests, our cemetery listings no longer are > linked to any other counties, but consist only of those researched and > prepared by our own members. > We will eventually have all the cemeteries on line thanks to Len Bowen's > initial efforts in scanning all available published data into an Access > database plus the contributions of several other members in trying to > verify and correct any and/all errors possible. Breaking this down into > usable on line files is now a monumental task but it will happen. > Initially, with an index to the existing cemetery book, and eventually, > the corrected and additional entries found and added to the database. > While this will be a useful resource, I still encourage you, whenever > possible, to seek out the original source. > We are all human and make mistakes. And mine was that I needed money to continue a project that will, in the end, benefit far more people than those on this list. I apologise to any of you who felt somehow taken advantage of but I was quite up front about how I had financed the project to try to locate 75,000+ burials. Several of you wrote AFTER the big to do happened on the list and submitted even more soldiers, leading me to believe it is a very small number of people who are making a very big thing out of the situation. I am pleased that many of you see the BIG picture. > > > I do utilize various resources on the Internet and I have no problem > with you helping others by pointing out where these resources are, but > we should remain loyal to Rootsweb when we are using the resources they > have provided for us and not use this list for our own profit or that of > a competitor. I am a very loyal supporter of Rootsweb and have stood up for it HUNDREDS of times when various US GenWeb Project folks have badmouthed it into the ground. I am making ZERO profit from the research (I have spent, in the past two years, close to $1700 (not counting the $600 my aunt spent on airfare, gasoline to walk cemeteries all over Iowa) on the project and received for the data I sold $261....PLEASE show me the profit!!). I have not sold any database which was contributed for free use on my website and have spent HUNDREDS of hours identifying soldiers units, death dates, birth dates, places of burial, etc. and adding it to the cemetery listings on my site as it is found. There is no charge to see it there. > What seems like a minor incident, if allowed, could lead to more prolific usage > in the future. I apologize and hope we can all > move on to more constructive issues. Sorry, folks, but I have to follow the > rules, too. > And I should never have allowed this to happen. > > Listowner > Norma Jennings There is no rule in the rootsweb list policy which states how one must use research done through their lists. This is Norma's rule and the LCGS's rule , apparently unpublished until now. Had I known they HAD such a rule on this list I would not have asked here for help with the project. Any one of you who has posted a query on this list and has subsequently published a book for your family reunion or of your genealogy and has charged for it, has done exactly the same thing I did--attempted to defray the cost of gathering data so you could share it with others. If you have ever gotten a piece of data from the list and then submitted your tree to World Family Tree, your data has been sold to others via Family Tree Maker.com I could have been sneaky like some other folks Norma and I are both WELL acquainted with and just not mentioned what I wanted the data for, but I was up front and honest in that while the ancestry.com part of it did exist, it is not the primary focus of the project. In fact, it is a very small part of the project. All someone had to do was write me an email saying "we'd rather you didn't ask for help with the project on the list" and that would have been the end of it. Instead, we now have several years Norma and I have worked TOGETHER to build a great coverage of cemetery data GONE because I dared to "color outside of the lines" in order to try to do a project that would benefit many more people than will ever see this mailing list or our web pages. There were over 75,000 men serving in the Civil War from Iowa, and hundreds of others from other states who died and were buried in Iowa. Louisa County is but a minute fraction of those men. The overall goal of the project is to locate them all, or as many as possible, and see to it that their gravestones are properly in place and in good condition (through the Veteran's Administration). It is truly sad that some are more concerned about the small picture than the big one. Long after these mailing lists and websites are gone, there will still be libraries where hopefully your great great great grandchildren will find the volumes of the Iowa Civil War Burials and be thankful that someone cared about their ancestors. Once again, I apologise for causing a problem with my project. The goal was to SOLVE a problem, not to cause one. I do hope the LCGS and Norma will reconsider the removal of the links to the Muscatine Co cemeteries at my website as a service to the RESEARCHERS this list is in place to assist. I see no purpose in roadblocking data.

I must apologize to our list members for my negligence in monitoring the list. I have been so busy working on our own Cemetery Database that I did not realize that our list was being used for a "paid Ancestry.Com project". It really isn't fair to Rootsweb to take advantage of their generosity in providing this list to our subscribers free of charge so their competitors can profit. Since Ancestry will undoubtedly charge for the use of this material at some later date, I must ask that this list not be used in the future to help promote a project for any of Rootsweb's competitors. This really has nothing to do with what we do for one another and I hope everyone will continue to help each other in researching their roots. To avoid any conflict of interests, our cemetery listings no longer are linked to any other counties, but consist only of those researched and prepared by our own members. We will eventually have all the cemeteries on line thanks to Len Bowen's initial efforts in scanning all available published data into an Access database plus the contributions of several other members in trying to verify and correct any and/all errors possible. Breaking this down into usable on line files is now a monumental task but it will happen. Initially, with an index to the existing cemetery book, and eventually, the corrected and additional entries found and added to the database. While this will be a useful resource, I still encourage you, whenever possible, to seek out the original source. We are all human and make mistakes. I do utilize various resources on the Internet and I have no problem with you helping others by pointing out where these resources are, but we should remain loyal to Rootsweb when we are using the resources they have provided for us and not use this list for our own profit or that of a competitor. What seems like a minor incident, if allowed, could lead to more prolific usage in the future. I apologize and hope we can all move on to more constructive issues. Sorry, folks, but I have to follow the rules, too. And I should never have allowed this to happen. Listowner Norma Jennings

I have done a LOT for Louisa Co genealogy, even though my website is primarily for Muscatine Co IA. I have done countless lookups for people (I am sure the man with the JAMES surname recalls this) on this list and Norma's Louisa Co website links to a substantial number of cemeteries in adjacent Muscatine Co which I have researched, transcribed and placed on line free for YOUR use. Apparently someone has complained to the list owner because I asked for help with my Civil War project, wanting to know what I was doing with Louisa Co soldiers (as if you guys OWNED these men) I am unsubbing and apologize in advance to Norma for this post but I am ANGRY ANGRY ANGRY. Excuse me for changing email addresses and having a couple messages show up as "Not a Subscriber" when in fact I am. My dad lived in Fredonia, my great grandparents in Letts, my great great grandparents in Letts...I still have lots of Louisa Co relatives and an interest in the area. I have as much right to post questions on this list as anyone else and I resent the living heck out of the fact that someone on here thinks they own the rights to information about civil war soldiers from the area AND that they were too chicken to just email me and ask for the scope of my project. I clearly posted what my project was about on 30 Mar 2000 and if the person who complained to Norma (instead of being big enough to write to me directly) had checked the list archive the original message is right there. For that person or anyone else who suddenly had a problem with me, here is the original message, exactly as posted on 30 Mar: > Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:01:58 -0500 > From: Susie Martin-Rott > To: IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <38E3A4A6.6E5E38DE@netzero.net> > Subject: Re: Civil War Burial Sites > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I've been working on a project for about 2 years now of recording the > burial sites of Civil War soldiers from Iowa and could use some help > with Louisa County guys. > > This database includes soldiers who died and are buried in IA regardless > > of what state or side they served, as well as men from Iowa who served > in > or are buried in other states (example-there were a bunch of West > Liberty guys > who joined the MO Cavalry and are buried in MO-they were FROM Iowa > though) > > I have picked through the Roll of Honor and hundreds of cemetery books > and > transcriptions looking for these guys (Iowa alone had over 75,000 men > serve) and have actually located only about 5 thousand so far (including > those > who served other states and are buried in IA, like my ggg grandfather > Daniel Grimm who served in OH and is buried at Parr). Part of the > problem is that many of them did not get "government" stones and there > is nothing on their marker to indicate > their service. > > One of the purposes of the project is that those who have no stones or > stones which are illegible are entitled to receive a new marker from the > Veterans > Administration..but we have to know where they are BURIED first!! > > If you have such a soldier in your family tree, serving from or buried > in IA and would like to have them included in the database, the info > needed is: > NAME > RANK > UNIT > BIRTHDATE and PLACE > DEATH DATE and PLACE > CEMETERY and LOCATION > misc: if you know pension number, wife's name, discharge info etc > > If you don't know everything, you can submit what you DO know and I'll > eventually research the person and try to fill in the blanks. > > I will tell you up front that I do earn a nominal sum (less than $300 > for 3,000 men) > in doing this by allowing ancestry.com to have the electronic rights to > my database. This helps me pay for copies from the roll of honor, > pension and other books and documents. > > Since each group of 3,000 takes hundreds of hours to research, comparing > > names to rosters, etc, I am NOT getting rich off this thing. I however > retain > any hard copy publishing rights, therefore I can GIVE the darn list away > to anyone I want, including the group who is working on the replacement > markers, libraries, etc. > > I have a guy right now making me NUTS who is buried in Louisa Co. > MAPES (no first name given) NY 44 Inf G Fredonia Fredonia, Louisa, IA > > G.A.R. Does anyone know what Mr. Mape's 1st name was???? > > With that, I will be unsubbing from the list so anyone who needs help from me is just outta luck or will have to email me directly or visit my website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~iamusca2/index.html I want this complainer to know that I came VERY VERY close to asking the Louisa Co site to remove all the cemetery links that go from that site to mine because of your attitude, but I have not done so because there are a lot of good people on this list who don't deserve to be deprived of their ancestral information simply because you have a personal problem. I would also like to thank those of you who voluntarily sent me your CW soldier information for inclusion in the project. Norma, I again apologise for sending this to the list, but the complainer was too chicken to mail me so this is the only way I can get a message to them.

Steve: Do I understand correctly that only the date of death was listed, and not any obituaries? I was hopeful of an Obituary. Thanks very much, Bj I offered through Louisa County rootweb site, to check the "Muscatine Weekly Journal" for death and marriage notices. After doing so yesterday, with negative results, I decided to respond to all of you at once. 22 Oct 1857, Jesse Graves, death. Checked Oct 24 and 31 issues. 5 Nov 1857, Charles Coburn and Anna Craddock, marriage. Checked Nov 7, 14, 21 issues. 12 Oct 1859, Alonzo Cole, death. Checked Oct 14 and 21 issues. 31 Jan 1860, Francis Hill, death (I received 3 requests for this popular ancestor!). Checked Feb 3, 10, 17. This was a long shot as there are few notices anyway. The ones there are were short and mostly for Muscatine citizens. I had looked through all of 1860 though and did see a few Louisa County, so that was the basis for my offer. Good luck to you all with your searches. Steve Harrison P.O. Box 1218 Manteo, North Carolina 27954 252-473-4830 e-mail: raleighwood@juno.com

I am hoping to locate a death record (or cemetery record) for Sylvina Hoyt Wigant who was born ca 1804 in Ontario County, NY and died ca. 1840. She was the wife of Peter Wigant, a resident of Wapello until about 1850. Their youngest son Thomas F was born 26 Feb 1840 in Wapello. In the 1840 census there is an adult female listed, so I assume her death was later. Her daughter Mary Wigant Lamphere is buried in Bethel Cemetery and the family has wondered if perhaps Sylvina might not have been buried there as well. Mary died 6 Oct 1882. Vern Wigant has a picture of the stone. Thought you might recommend a source that might be available. Is Bethel one of the cemeteries that has been read? Thank you, Ann S. Callow, member

> Subject: German Reformed Church > Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 09:29:23 -0500 > From: "Alvin R. Burns" <milwray@lisco.net> > To: IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com > > Can anyone give me any information on the German Reformed Church. Is > there one now that would have records or who iIcould contact for > information. > > Jill Burns Don't go running off to Lancaster Theological Seminary in PA too quickly. While there are records of the German Reformed Church there, records of congregatinos of the Deutsche Evangelische Reformierte Kirche may be several places. First, of course, is the local congregation whose records you are seeking. Virtually every German Evangelical Reformed Church is now part of the United Church of Christ. For example, in Burlington IA, what was Deutsche Zion Evangelische Kirche is now Zion United Church of Christ. Second, if the congregation whose records you are seeking is in Iowa (MO, NE and region), start with Eden Theological Seminary in Webster Groves, MO, which was the German Evangelical Reformed seminary serving Iowa in the 19th century. URL http://www.eden.edu/ -- Dr. Ned H. Benson St. John's Presbyterian Church 1070 West Plumb Lane Reno, Nevada 89509 http://www.stjohnschurch.org