This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5k.2ADE/1258.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Barb; I am so glad to here from you.... We are talking about the same people.... the dates are a little off, but there are still the same people....Hubert is my great-great-great-grandfather also, my line would be from peter (patner) seiler, who married Ida Branscom (m.1883), Ida and peter had a son named henry a(b.1884), Then Ida remarried to a Phillip starr, and then to a james nims (m.1916)..... Her son Henry Seiler changed his name some time after 1913 to Henry Starr ( we still dont know why?) I do belive that Hubert and Catherine had one more child named john p He is in the 1860 census for jackson iowa , washington township, with the family listed as a child. Ill get all the info on my line togeather and u can have it if you want it. Thanks, Heather.