Would like to hear from anyone who has information of the Alpha J. Lee family that lived in Tippecanoe Twp., Henry County, Iowa in 1856 as the census states. Alpha J. Lee b. 1818 Indiana, m. Sarah E. (Barrett?) b. 1822 Tennessee. Children are: John R. Lee, born 1842 Josiah Lee, born 1850, married Melissa Lane Lewis N. B. Lee b. 1853 Henry Co., Iowa. m. Catherine Musick (d. South Pass City, Wy. 1900) at Kirksville, Mo, in 1878. Children--Thomas Jackson Lee b. 1879, Mary Dosha Lee b. 1883, Viola Elizabeth Lee b. 1885. Lewis N. B. Lee and Catherine and family lived in the Kirksville, Mo, area until they migrated and settled in northern California around 1900. Their two daughters married and raised families in northern California. Mary Dosha Lee, born 1883, married Noah Alonzo Flynn in Redding, Shasta, California in 1912. Their children are---Myrtle Violet Flynn b.1913, Elsie Evelyn Flynn b.1915, Luella Mae Flynn b. 1920 Elizabeth Lee b. 1855, married Joe Lagle at Kirksville, Mo., in 1883. Child--Cordelia Belle. Andrew"Andy" Lee Lived in Henry County. A photo exists of him and his wife made by Leisenrings of Mt Pleasant, would like any information about Leisenring photography as to what became of the shop and where records might be housed now. Richard Lee? Celia Lee? If anyone has even a shred of info about this family or descendants please contact me or Lorraine Darley at email address: darley@plains.nodak.edu Thank you--Marian Cox

I am researching the Lee families that were in the Tippecanoe Township of Henry County Iowa. I Would love to hear from anyone who has information of Joseph L Lee b. 1794 E. Tennessee d. 1852 Henry Co., Ia. His wife Mary Mayberry b. 1797 d. 1860 also Henry Co., Ia. and any of their children or ancestors. Children: Harrison Lee b. 1821 Indiana m. Martha A Parish--Children are Martin, Sarah A, Pleasant, Winfield S. John Lee b. 1823 William Lee b. 1825 m. Mary Gillenwaters? Abigail Lee b. 1826 *Pleasant Lee b. 1828 Indiana d. 1865 Henry Co., Ia. m. Mary Lee b. 1841 Henry Co. Ia.d/o Martin Lee and Lyia Ann Riley Lee. These are my GG Grandparents. Children are Jonathan William, Perry David, Melissa Rebecca. Joseph Lee b. 1831 Indiana m. Mary Lee children are Alice N., Martin E., Anna Belle, Edward Benton. Mary Jane Lee b. 1833 m. William Stockdick--Children are Mark and Perry. Mark Lee b. 1834 m. Easther Wood 1862 Eastman b. 1840 d. 1859 Henry Co., Ia. I would also like to know where my G Grandfather Perry David Lee (b. 1861 Washington Iowa d. 1934 Cantril, Van Buren Co., Iowa)received his veterinary training. Could it possibly have been Iowa Wesleyan, or did he have to go away from home for this type of training. His obituary states he was not in Iowa for 4 years of his life and I am wondering if this is why, but where was he? If anyone has any information about this family or are relatives, I would be very happy to hear from you. Thank you very much. Marian Cox

Hi Henry County researchers Can anyone tell me what it costs to subscribe to the Henry County Genealogical Society? Also the correct address and if there is email. Thank you very much. Marian Cox

I have a bunch of connections with Henry Co., IA. William S. Mathews and his entire family: I am interested in information on them. Some of the descendants are Joseph Mathews, m. Ada Jessup; Harrison H. Mathews, m. Caroline Nicola (I think ??), and Adeline Mathews, m. Simon P.B. Martin. Those are some; I have others, but can't remember them. Andrew Hesser, Jr. m. Eliza McCune, I think. His family is also of interest to me. Some kids were Mary Louise, Della, and others; Andrew's siblings would also be of great interest. More later. I am also interested in the Martins who settled in the area; namely Bonham Martin, who married Phoebe Conklin and Esther De Marce. Those descendants would be of interest. It is his son, Simon, who married Adeline. There were other children, but Bonham should be almost enough of a clue as the name is rare. (Alexander Campbell Martin, Ananias Conklin Martin, Lewis Martin, James M. M. Martin, and others were his sons). I am interested in sharing any information. My grandmother, Esther Lorene Martin grew up near Wayland, just like her ancestors (listed above). She now resides in Norway, Benton Co., IA.

Looking for information concerning the John PENCIL family who came to Henry County via Ohio, from Pennsylvania, by 1850. Am looking to exchange and confirm information on John Pencil, his wife Mary Ann Schaffer, and children. Thanks!

For those of you who have posted queries in recent months, you will be happy to know that as of today, January 11, 1999, the posted queries have all been imported into CCHELPER where they are more easily searched. Holidays and Family illness had this posting far in arrears. I apologize for my neglect. They have been removed from the original posting but can still be found at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~iahenry/qryindex.htm Norma Norma

I have a FORD family in Henry Co., IA, late 1840s, who seem to have had Ontario, Canada, connections [TEEPLE and/or EVERITT]. In Henry Co., they were associated with the COX family. Sons Edward and Ralph, and apparently at least one other son whose name I don't know. Does anyone have information on this family? I have some I can share. Sandy Wilbur Gresham, OR

Here is another excerpt of information listowners have been discussing. ----------------------------------------------- Just so I don't seem alarmist, here's the background on why I'm concerned. Mattel/Broderbund has just locked up about 85% of the genealogical software and CD-ROM market with their purchases of TLC and hence Broderbund, Palladium, Mindscape, and essentially everyone else who sells genealogical software except Sierra and Wholly Genes. That means the Mattel/Broderbund monopoly can funnel major bucks into genealogy and be certain that it can charge the community essentially whatever it feels like for software and CD-ROMs. Ancestry just sold 30% of their company to CMG (a venture capital company) for $10,000,000. This is money on top of the $60/year they get from "tens of thousands of subscribers" (from the Wall Street Journal). That means that Ancestry has more than $10,000,000 to spend, and they expect to make a *lot* of profit off the community because venture capitalists don't make investments unless they believe they can score some thing 400% or higher profits within a 3-5 year period. Mattel/Broderbund and Ancestry expect to make a *lot* of money off our fellow genealogists. But the community has a choice. We can grow our own cooperatives like RootsWeb and voluntarily spend a few bucks apiece to bring data online, or we can be charged through the nose and make the stockholders at Mattel/Broderbund and Ancestry wealthy. The right choice seems like a no-brainer to me, but 94-98% of RootsWeb's users seem to be saying they think it's a pretty good idea to make the stockholders at Mattel/Broderbund and Ancestry wealthy. BTW, don't worry about the staff at RootsWeb throwing in the towel; we won't quit. But it is kind of discouraging when you watch large numbers of your users making what appear to be barkingly irrational choices. Cheers, B. -- Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 leverich@rootsweb.com

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0B6187B7062238A4DB7DCCDE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------0B6187B7062238A4DB7DCCDE Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by franklin.lisco.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22778 for <njennings@lisco.net>; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:35:13 -0600 (CST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA16641; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:31:35 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:31:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901011732.JAA15476@bl-5.rootsweb.com> Old-To: Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> Old-cc: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com, "Dr. Brian Leverich" <leverich@rootsweb.com> Reply-to: "Dr. Brian Leverich" <leverich@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: Preaching to the converted ! In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 01 Jan 1999 10:32:39 CST. <199901011633.KAA10313@netdoor.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 09:32:56 -0800 From: Brian Leverich <leverich@rootsweb.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"mf76UD.A.zDE.2ZQj2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/959 X-Loop: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com -- Your message was: (from "Carol C-H") > I know this is going to get me into trouble, but am going to say > it anyhow, because I am concerned about the future of RootsWeb, as > we all are on this list. I was prowling around ancestry.com last > evening (because, as they did last year at this time, they have a > free month), and I found that they have a deal - "partners" - in > which they "pay" folks to post datasets. Apparently part of the > "pay" is a year's free usage of all the other data on the website. > I see what Brian just predicted already coming to pass, AND that > the the RootsWeb lists are doing a better job of "advertising" for > ancestry.com than they are "advertising" for RootsWeb. Why? What > is the "carrot" at RootsWeb for the average user? A "good > feeling" from having done a good thing in helping to keep > genealogy freely accessible is not going to do it, IMHO, for the > average user. I think probably not for 99% of the users. IMHO, > that means that RootsWeb has gotta get funds from somewhere other > than users. Advertising? Foundation grants after the 501c3 is > obtained? I don't know, but I fear that if we don't figure > something out pdq, we are all going to burn out - including Brian - > and it is all going to be academic. ------------------ Two points: First, foundation grants aren't going to save us. I've spent most of my life working for 501(c)(3)s, and I understand finding money about as well as anyone. It is *hard* to find grant money, it takes a *lot* of time to bring a grant in, and initial grants are almost always *small* and you have to build up to larger grants over a period of years. I wouldn't count on substantial grant money being a player for at least another three to five years. I'm not sure I'd *ever* count on grants being a significant part of our budget: our costs already run near to a half-million per year, and I'm not aware of *anyone* making grants of that size for *any* genealogical purpose. Second, even if we could support RootsWeb on grants (which we can't), I'm not sure we'd want to. If the users aren't willing to join the Cooperative but they are happy to pay $60/year this year to Ancestry and Broderbund (and probably more in future years), maybe we should just admit we have a bad business model and go home. But I don't believe that. Not at all. I think what we've got to do is get a story out to the users, and the story is that if everyone joins the Cooperative and everyone contributes a little, we can really build something amazing for all of us to use as much as we want. The idea of banding together voluntarily, rather than being forced to enrich Ancestry's venture capitalists and Mattel / TLC / Broderbund's stockholders, ought to be a pretty powerful message. Cheers, B. -- Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 leverich@rootsweb.com --------------0B6187B7062238A4DB7DCCDE--

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5C9C7BB2D8E90DB5AAEFFA99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For your information, I am passing along the more pertinent messages appearing on TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L list for listowners. Several ideas for bumper stickers, hand out flyers to publicize Rootsweb are currently being discussed. The flyers need to be approved yet before they are distributed so ideas are still being fielded for their development. Norma Jennings Listowner and County Coordinator for Louisa and Henry Counties in Iowa --------------5C9C7BB2D8E90DB5AAEFFA99 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by franklin.lisco.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA17971 for <njennings@lisco.net>; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:54:09 -0600 (CST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA02166; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:50:26 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:50:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <368FB866.63C7@castles.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 10:35:18 -0800 From: Sharon <todt@castles.com> Reply-To: todt@castles.com Organization: TheShipsList X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: cheska@ix.netcom.com Old-CC: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: GENTECH and stickers References: <fd668ea.368eacc4@aol.com> <368F1C07.1085@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Ovt4HD.A.1f.SaFk2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1085 X-Loop: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com Ya know the bumper sticker idea could really be a gold-mine. Everyone likes to 'advertise' or show off their particular hobby or special interest. The GENTECH is a perfect place to start this but not just for the folks who attend. I can't be there (even though I would love to), but I would sure order a bumper sticker AND other stuff like that. Bumper stickers are cheap to have produced and I think some one on this list mentioned having the equipment or knowing someone/someplace to have it done. Surely, we could arrange to have a mass production of these done and then announce on our lists and/or webpages that they are available by mail order. We could put a webpage online for ordering. This isn't something that would take a giant warehouse to handle. Infact could probably easily be handled by a small group of volunteers. As far as mailing them - there must be someone out here who has a bulk-mailing permit. If not, I do know someone who does and I can certainly check to see if I could use it. Folks WOULD pay $5-$10 for a bumper sticker! They could also be sold at County Genealogical Societies, County Fairs, Street Fairs, etc. Another idea is address labels - some cute little design that plugs RootsWeb and has the persons name, mailing address and maybe even email address on them. This could probably be worked out with a label company, who would in turn handle all the orders and mailing of the labels to folks. Something like this could probably be setup online. The lbel company handles it all and RW gets a percent of the sales - plus the publicity! This would work and would probably be something that could be implemented quickly. Again, we could announce this on our lists and webpages with a link to the url to place an order. Maybe a couple of different designs to suit everyones taste - but all plugging RW. Mouse Pads - another good idea that folks WOULD buy. My Micky Mouse pad is just about worn out! And I always buy some sort of 'cute' one! I would probably even buy one for my computer at work - because everyone I work with knows I'm into my ancestors and is always asking me questions - a perfect place to plug RootsWeb with showy little products that will get folks to ask me more questions! Again, there are companies out there that mass produce these; could be handled online and RW getting a percent of the sales. Calendars - either pocket (wallet type calendars), regular 12 month calendars or the larger 'year at a glance' calendar (with some sort of logo/advertising in the center). Again, something I pick up at the office supply store faithfully every year and use them at home and at work - just because they're handy and don't take up a lot of room on a wall - but I 'look' at it every day. All of these items are small in cost, could easily be set up with companies that ARE already online and mass produce the stuff and would handle the bulk of taking the orders, the mailing, etc and RootsWeb get's a percent of the sales and THE PUBLICITY! Sharon -- ************************* Sharon Todtenbier Co-owner TheShipsList mailto:todt@castles.com ************************* --------------5C9C7BB2D8E90DB5AAEFFA99--

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------07DEC53DAE9A0B23DC23FFBC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI: Your County Coordinator is also the co-team leader of the IIGS-Library so I am especially pleased to forward this message to my lists. Due to family illness and other committments on my agenda, Brian is taking the initiative in keeping the library viable until I can more actively participant. Please visit the pages and pass your comments along to me at: mailto:njennings@lisco.net Norma Jennings Listowner and County Coordinator for the IAHENRY and IALOUISA Lists and pages Co-Teamleader of IIGS-UNIVERSITY-LIBRARY TEAM --------------07DEC53DAE9A0B23DC23FFBC Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by franklin.lisco.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04693 for <njennings@lisco.net>; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:11:16 -0600 (CST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA16255; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:02:35 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 00:02:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001f01be34ac$40a49620$41071409@warlock.hursley.ibm.com> Reply-To: "Brian Fisk" <bfisk@dircon.co.uk> From: "Brian Fisk" <bfisk@dircon.co.uk> Old-To: <NEW-GEN-URL-L@rootsweb.com> Old-Cc: <IIGS-UNIVERSITY-LIBRARY-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: IIGS Library now online again Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:56:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"mQXxIC.A.e8D.ZWHk2"@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: IIGS-UNIVERSITY-LIBRARY-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: IIGS-UNIVERSITY-LIBRARY-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <IIGS-UNIVERSITY-LIBRARY-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/6 X-Loop: IIGS-UNIVERSITY-LIBRARY-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: IIGS-UNIVERSITY-LIBRARY-L-request@rootsweb.com The International Internet Genealogical Society (IIGS TM) is pleased to announce that its Library resource is now back on-line again in a new and revised format. The library consists of a series of pages, mainly organised geographically, which point to the different resources available for each location from continent down to county. Coverage of English resources is good, especially for the US and the UK. Other links are less well represented but we are always looking for volunteers to help expand our coverage - visit http://www.iigs.org/library/team.htm for more information If you would like to use this resource try the following URL http://www.iigs.org/library/ If you have any comments you may direct them to me bfisk@dircon.co.uk Happy New Year Brian Fisk IIGS Library Team Co-Leader --------------07DEC53DAE9A0B23DC23FFBC--

In case you haven't found it yet, the 1850 Henry County census is on-line on the Henry County IAGENWEB site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~iahenry/census/censindx.htm Norma Jennings IAHENRY listowner

I don't have a copy of the 1850 census for Henry Co., IA, but found this is the 1852 "special census" for Henry Co: Jackson Township - Elizabeth MASON 4 males 4 females Jefferson Township - A. W. MASON 6 males 3 females Center Township - R. C. MASON 3 males 3 females MASON marriages in Henry Co. to 1850 were: Jane MASON and John W. McCULLY 20 Jun 1848 Isabella MASON and Samuel FARLOW 4 Sep 1850 Robert MASON and Sharlott T. FARLOW 4 Jun 1848 William B. MASON and Hannah BROWN 21 Jul 1850 Martha Ann MASON and John KURTZ 31 Oct 1850 I had MASONs in Henry Co., also - a family that allegedly came from Scotland about 1831, spent a short time in New York, then Indiana, before coming to Henry Co., IA. The Jane MASON and Isabella MASON above are definitely part of that family, and I think Robert MASON is, also. I have never been able to find their parents' names. Can anyone help with that? Momcine@aol.com wrote: > Here's for all the newbies on the list. I'm still looking for the following: > > I have Iowa MASONs- 7children of Joseph MASON b 1786 NC & Sarah UNKNOWN b Jul > 1797 in Buckingham Co VA came to southeast Iowa between 1850-1860. The older > children were born in VA, the younger children in OH. > > Wilkerson MASON b 1812 m Sarah Catherine Anderson (lived in Henry CO) > Anderson MASON m Nancy Davis (moved from Henry to Pottawattamie CO) > William MASON m Laura Price (Lived in Lucas County) > Mary E. MASON m Charles Davis (lived in henry CO) > Melvina MASON m Edward Fidler (Henry CO) > Jane MASON m JAmes Conner (Henry CO) > Elizabeth MASON m Horatio Clark (Henry CO) > > Also Henry Hamilton sometimes last name MASON. He is either the son of Jane > MASON first marriage or the youngest sibling (family story). Henry m Della > Shackleford and moved from henry CO to Lucas CO and to then to Knoxville, > where he dies 1886. > > Children of Wilkinson & Sarah are Jesse, Lucinda, Della, George C. and > Horatio. > > Children of Anderson and Nancy are Joseph, Wilkes, Charles, Ida, Eva, Edwin > that I know. > > Francine > > ==== IAHENRY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to check out the web sites for Southeastern Iowa families. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ialouisa > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iahenry > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/7687 > > Mailing Lists: > mailto:IALOUISA-L@rootsweb.com > mailto:IAHENRY-L@rootweb.com > mailto:FULTONVA-L@rootsweb.com

Looking for some links to Edward FIDLER. He marries Malvina MASON in 1850 in Defience County, Ohio. Found on the 1850 & 1860 census for Defience, Defience County. MAlvina may have been married before as she is listed as Malvina McMAhon with a young child - Leander or Leonard her household. This family moves to Iowa by 1868. Edward dies a few years later from TB. They have lots of children including: Edward, Joseph, Frank, Oliver, Cornelia, Ida, Mary, Charles, and I am missing a few. Francine

Here's for all the newbies on the list. I'm still looking for the following: I have Iowa MASONs- 7children of Joseph MASON b 1786 NC & Sarah UNKNOWN b Jul 1797 in Buckingham Co VA came to southeast Iowa between 1850-1860. The older children were born in VA, the younger children in OH. Wilkerson MASON b 1812 m Sarah Catherine Anderson (lived in Henry CO) Anderson MASON m Nancy Davis (moved from Henry to Pottawattamie CO) William MASON m Laura Price (Lived in Lucas County) Mary E. MASON m Charles Davis (lived in henry CO) Melvina MASON m Edward Fidler (Henry CO) Jane MASON m JAmes Conner (Henry CO) Elizabeth MASON m Horatio Clark (Henry CO) Also Henry Hamilton sometimes last name MASON. He is either the son of Jane MASON first marriage or the youngest sibling (family story). Henry m Della Shackleford and moved from henry CO to Lucas CO and to then to Knoxville, where he dies 1886. Children of Wilkinson & Sarah are Jesse, Lucinda, Della, George C. and Horatio. Children of Anderson and Nancy are Joseph, Wilkes, Charles, Ida, Eva, Edwin that I know. Francine

With all the spam and revived hoaxes hitting the internet this week, thought you might want this address to check things out for yourself. http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/blhoax.htm

Can anyone help me sort out the several Henry Co. MASON families and/or provide any information on the FARLOWS? There were five MASON marriages that I know of in Henry Co. 1848-1850, and two of the MASONS married FARLOWS: -Jane MASON and John W. McCULLY 20 Jun 1848 -Isabella MASON and Samuel FARLOW 4 Sep 1850 -Robert MASON and SHARLOTT FARLOW 4 Jun 1848 -William B. MASON and Hannah BROWN 21 Jul 1850 -Martha Ann MASON and John KURTZ 31 Oct 1850 I know that Jane and Isabella MASON were sisters, and suspect that Robert MASON was their brother, but have no idea who their parents were. Jane MASON was one of the earliest school teachers in Henry Co. Were Samuel FARLOW and Sharlott FARLOW siblings? Who were their parents? I have some information on the MASONS that I can trade. Sandy Wilbur Gresham, OR

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C093ECAE55BE95870493B467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------C093ECAE55BE95870493B467 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by franklin.lisco.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25872 for <njennings@lisco.net>; Fri, 25 Dec 1998 20:47:07 -0600 (CST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA14518; Fri, 25 Dec 1998 18:44:14 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 18:44:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812260247.SAA10697@bl-5.rootsweb.com> Old-To: Picavet <picavet@ping.be> Old-cc: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com, "Dr. Brian Leverich" <leverich@rootsweb.com> Reply-to: "Dr. Brian Leverich" <leverich@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: Income needed In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 25 Dec 1998 19:03:58 +0100. <v04003a01b2a980de34cd@[193.74.1.54]> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 18:47:20 -0800 From: Brian Leverich <leverich@rootsweb.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"HKB-fD.A.iiD.91Eh2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/797 X-Loop: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com -- Your message was: (from "Picavet") > At 03:44 +0100 24-12-1998, Brian Leverich wrote: > [snip] > > How much do our users *want* us to grow? > [snip] > >So I don't know quite what to say. The users need to tell us what > >they want, and we'll build whatever they're willing to support. > > > I have been learning more about RootsWeb these last couple of days than in > the previous years. I am grateful for the little discussions we are having > here. One of the things I regret most about RootsWeb is that the staff team doesn't have more time just to *talk* with folks. There are twenty or so of us and more than a quarter of a million users of this facility. It's amazing we can keep the hardware and software running at all; finding time to talk with those quarter- million people, even through mass channels like the RWR, is almost impossible. > I have never really considered myself as a "user", but rather as a > supporter of the RootsWeb (read B+K?) ideals. I put my wallet where my > mouth is, which gives gives me th confidence to speak up for my convictions. Georges, you're many things. You are a user, a remarkable supporter, and a creator of resources for other genealogists. We greatly appreciate the contributions that folks like you are making to the genealogical community. > RootsWeb isn't any different from any other business (business > without the connotation of profit). > > The prime responsibility of any business is to survive. > > A business cannot survive without a strategy with clearly defined > goals. > > Enough of this strategy must be visible to the market, so that the > customers (users) can identify with it. > > Support will automatically flow from their identification with the > goals set forward. Our primary goal is to build a great online public genealogical library. We plan to build clusters of resources around surnames and localities, including mailing lists, Websites, GenConnect Boards, link registries, search engines, primary data, and more. I would be a satisfied man if a decade from now any genealogist, anywhere in the world, could access a library with resources similar to the Salt Lake City Family History Library using their PC from the comfort of their own home. A secondary goal, one that we're just starting to think about, is to create tools that will be able to read a user's personal genealogical database on their own PC (in UFT, FTM, TMG, Generations, PAF, or whatever format) and let the user "click on an ancestor" and access the appropriate online surname and locality resource clusters. With a good PC <--> Internet server interface, we think we can make even a great library accessible to newbies, and we think we can make it easy for even newbies to document their sources and perform rigorous research. None of that is going to happen overnight. But if all of our users were members of the Cooperative, I think we would get most of the way there in the next decade. That help with the vision thing? (: BTW, that may sound like an unattainable dream. But it's not. In the last three years, RootsWeb's users, members, volunteers, and staff have already created one of the Internet's 100 (and probably one of the Internet's 25) most heavily trafficked sites. If we can do that in three years starting from scratch, think about what we should be able to do in a decade. Cheers, B. ------------------ -- Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 leverich@rootsweb.com --------------C093ECAE55BE95870493B467--

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------78BF647258AFE92ED5857E37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI --------------78BF647258AFE92ED5857E37 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by franklin.lisco.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14691 for <njennings@lisco.net>; Sat, 26 Dec 1998 18:47:34 -0600 (CST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA28148; Sat, 26 Dec 1998 16:44:27 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 16:44:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812270047.QAA15406@bl-5.rootsweb.com> Old-To: Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> Old-cc: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com, "Dr. Brian Leverich" <leverich@rootsweb.com> Reply-to: "Dr. Brian Leverich" <leverich@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: Income needed In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 26 Dec 1998 17:38:19 CST. <199812262339.RAA26068@netdoor.com> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 16:47:44 -0800 From: Brian Leverich <leverich@rootsweb.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"EE1PO.A.N3G.nLYh2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/804 X-Loop: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com -- Your message was: (from "Carol C-H") > Brian - I just realized that the post I sent asking for the cost > of these projects was sent to you privately rather than to the > list. Please excuse. OK, I've estimated costs below. > Also - if people wanted to contribute to one of these projects, so > that the money would be available when the time came that it could > be done, would that be possible? I am thinking that if people > researching Washington state wanted special contributions > earmarked for those, or if there were cousins who wanted to > contribute specifically toward the acquisition of census film and > the scanner, would there be a possibility of establishing a fund > for same that could be kept separate from other funds contributed? Arrgh. Something you need to understand about RootsWeb is that we support hundreds of thousands of users for just pennies apiece per month. Even if every single one of our users was a member, we'd be receiving less than 5% (yes, only *five* percent) of what a typical ISP receives from each of its users. What that means is that we do not now have and will never have in the future the ability to handle "special cases". We couldn't begin to maintain separate funds for separate projects; the costs of managing that and providing customer support for people who change their minds and such would kill us. Moreover, I don't know what we'd do if folks contributed $10,000 towards a $45,000 microfilm scanner and then stopped; would we refund the $10,000? Sorry to sound panicky, but one of the things that scares the sysadmins here more than anything else is that nobody in the user community seems to understand what it *means* to support people on pennies per month. We don't have customer support people, we don't have accounting staff, we have toy hardware that requires constant nursing, we don't even have enough staff to answer our own email -- there are 10,000 users out there writing us for every admin that we have available to answer the mail. *sigh* Sorry about that long digression. (: But seriously, any plan that involves increasing administrative complexity at RootsWeb is a nonstarter. We just don't have the resources. > At 01:35 PM 12/26/98 -0800, Brian Leverich wrote: > > > >First, Karen and Tim and the listowners are ready and waiting for > >upgrades to the "lists2" mailing list server and a new "lists3" > >server that we can tune especially to handle the very large lists. > > > >The effect of upgrading "lists2" and adding "lists3" is that we can > >continue adding lists while keeping our average delivery time down > >in the few-seconds range. This is around $11,000. > > ### > > > >Second, Randy, Dale, the USGenWeb Archives/Census projects, and the > >listowners could use a second search engine server because the > >current server is out of disk space (and can't be upgraded) and is > >out of CPU capacity (and can't be upgraded), too. > > > >Adding a second search engine server would allow the USGenWeb and > >mailing list archives to keep growing, and should make searches > >significantly faster. This is around $16,000-24,000, depending on how we configure the server. > > ### > > > >Everyone would enjoy faster lists and faster Web pages if we had > >more bandwidth. We can add bandwidth with a single telephone call, > >but we incur significant new costs when we make that call. This is around $4,000 every month. Cheers, B. ------------------ -- Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 leverich@rootsweb.com --------------78BF647258AFE92ED5857E37--

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D6DBC7F7DE45F4150236CA26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------D6DBC7F7DE45F4150236CA26 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by franklin.lisco.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13059 for <njennings@lisco.net>; Sat, 26 Dec 1998 15:34:47 -0600 (CST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA28197; Sat, 26 Dec 1998 13:31:53 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 13:31:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812262135.NAA14653@bl-5.rootsweb.com> Old-To: Carol C-H <cch@netdoor.com> Old-cc: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com, "Dr. Brian Leverich" <leverich@rootsweb.com> Reply-to: "Dr. Brian Leverich" <leverich@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: Income needed In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 26 Dec 1998 14:55:44 CST. <199812262056.OAA03091@netdoor.com> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 13:35:13 -0800 From: Brian Leverich <leverich@rootsweb.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"SVVba.A.X4G.IXVh2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/802 X-Loop: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: TEAM-ROOTSWEB-L-request@rootsweb.com -- Your message was: (from "Carol C-H") > Brian, would it be possible for you to tell us when you had > volunteers for a project that would be possible to offer *if* the > money were available, and then let us approach the lists for > funding to provide the server for that specific project? That > would probably bring in a greater response, and would, of course, > be in addition to our "normal" encouragement of membership - ------------------ Sure, I can always tell you at least one, two, or three of the next projects that we have volunteers waiting to handle. Here are the current top-of-the-stack projects: ### First, Karen and Tim and the listowners are ready and waiting for upgrades to the "lists2" mailing list server and a new "lists3" server that we can tune especially to handle the very large lists. The effect of upgrading "lists2" and adding "lists3" is that we can continue adding lists while keeping our average delivery time down in the few-seconds range. ### Second, Randy, Dale, the USGenWeb Archives/Census projects, and the listowners could use a second search engine server because the current server is out of disk space (and can't be upgraded) and is out of CPU capacity (and can't be upgraded), too. Adding a second search engine server would allow the USGenWeb and mailing list archives to keep growing, and should make searches significantly faster. ### Everyone would enjoy faster lists and faster Web pages if we had more bandwidth. We can add bandwidth with a single telephone call, but we incur significant new costs when we make that call. ### If we had the money, in pretty much short order we'd field the new listservers, we'd field the new search engine server, and we'd dial up our bandwidth. As it is, we'll do those things as revenue allows. Then we'll go on to the next projects. BTW, this list sort of shows what frustrates me the most. The next three projects are mainly upgrades of existing facilities. We're only just keeping up. I *really* wish the next three projects read something like: o Have Georges contact Belgium's government and see if they have anything like America's Social Security Death Index that we could buy and bring online. o Buy the full set of Washington state land records (they happen to be available) and bring them online. o Buy an autopositioning microfilm scanner and start bringing several county/years of census pages online every day. But to move from barely keeping up to really developing new resources, we need to move our membership rate from 2-6% of our users up closer to 30-50%. Cheers, B. -- Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 leverich@rootsweb.com --------------D6DBC7F7DE45F4150236CA26--