This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: farwellwalter Surnames: Hoecken, Chapdelaine, Derocher, Mann, Wilmet Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.iowa.counties.fremont/7408.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jim: Perhaps you do not have the baptismal record of your great grandmother Julie Chapdelain found in the St. Mary's Registers. The registers collectively called "The St. Mary Registers" are referred to in that way because of the place where they were kept in Kansas. The following entry regarding Julie Chapdelain comes from a register specifically called the "Sugar Creek Register", in which Hoecken had entered his baptisms after returning to Kansas from his missionary trip in 1843: I. Columns on the left hand side of the register: TEMPUS (date when person was baptized): Sept. 10, 1843 NOMEN BAPTISATI (name of the person being baptized): Julie NOMEN PARENTUM (name of the parents of the person being baptized): P. Ch. op halaine M. Mann NOMEN PATRINOMEN (name of the sponsors at the baptism): P.Mayloir Derosher M. Jos. Wilmet II. Columns on the right hand side of the register: NOMEN LOCI IN QUO BAPTISATI FUERUNT (name of the place where the baptism took place): Council Bluffs RATIONES OP QUIS CEREMONIE OMISSA (reason for omitting the ceremony): Solemnitis (solemized) TEMPUS QUANO SUPPLETO FUERUNT (time when the supplication was made): (I cannot decide what this indicates: there are ditto marks from above, but the priest on that line wasn't Hoecken!? Nor can I tell what reserve that priest was on when the entry was made. Most definitely it WAS NOT The Council Bluffs.--W.F.) ATAS BAPTISATI (age of the person being baptized): 1 annnum (one year). THIS LINE OF ENTRIES ACROSS THE TWO PAGES IS SIGNED BY "C.T. Hoecken S.J." Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.