This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: farwellwalter Surnames: Greenwood, Eberman, Hoecken, Musser, Brubaker, Todd Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.iowa.counties.fremont/1713.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, the Atchison Court Records for that county contain an entry which states that Caleb Greenwood left his children with the Gemeckers. This family can be found in the 1850 Federal Census for that county.......Also, my great grandfather, Judge Thomas Greenwood kept one of Caleb's children and this can be found in the 1856 census of Fremont county. I have no identification for this boy's mother. This boy probably went to California with John Greenwood who was in Fremont county 1857 - 1858 where the Eberman's lived, before returing to California. We need to remember that outsiders could stay in Indian country but a short time before they were expected to marry into the tribe in whose territory that person was staying..... It is my belief that a person such as Caleb didn't stay long in any one place! so, there could easily be more wives for Caleb Greenwood.....It's hard to reconcile that Caleb Greenwood would have been allowed to have wives from another tribe while he is known to have been living in Sioux Indian Country. I have often wondered if the Black Foot Indians referred to in the St. Mary's records could be that branch of the Sioux's who at times were called "Blackfoots"? After all, Fort Union and Fort Clark were in Sioux Indian country! (By the way, this is the locale for the missionary activities of Hoecken just before he closed St. Joseph's Mission at The Council Bluffs in 1841. Hoecken simply stopped off on his journey down the Missouri river from the Dakotas.) HAVE I ALWAYS DISTINGUISED BETWEEN St.Marys in Kansas AND St. Joseph's Mission at The Council Bluffs? IF I HAVE NOT, I'll not be able to edit out those mistakes, so please be sure that you do. There were Harvey's who held high positions in the Missouri River Country with the Indian department. There is an enigma with my Greenwood's of Fremont county: Judge Greenwood's ancestors were members of the Paxtang Presbyterian Church from which the famous Paxtang Boys of Pennsylvania originated. (The remainder of that episode is easy to find, so spare an account here.) This fits perfectly with the story surrounding Caleb's family. Too, Judge Thomas Greenwood later married into that Pennsylvania Dutch family which held parts of the Conestoga Manor where that revenge took place. (Let it be known that there were no more scalpings in Judge Greenwoods family after this incident! Does that say something about how innocent the Connestoga Indians were?) As a result the Judge and his family finally, eventually, moved to southwestern Iowa before Iowa ever became a state, and never had contact with her Musser-Brubaker relatives afterwards that I know of. The Brubakers of Berlin have told me they did not know where she went to live. Too, the Rev. John Todd of Tabor had ancestors in! volved at Conestoga, and he also moved to Fremont county at an early date. The Judge and Rev. Todd are known to have been friends for the rest of their lives. To add to this enigma, some of my Greenwoods lived in Clearfield county, PA. where other mountain men are said to have come from. There is a obliterated space in the old Greenwood family bible for the date when Caleb was supposed to have been born, but the name is completely illegible. But Caleb's genealogists say he belonged to a Virginia family! ..... I have my doubts. When John Greenwood came back to Fremont county for the last time, visiting the Eberman's, Judge Greenwood was living near Thurman where Caleb Greenwood must have lived! (There seems to be so much circumstantial evidence that it is foolishness to ignore it.) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.