This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: farwellwalter Surnames: Youngcault, Greenwood Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.iowa.counties.fremont/1713.1.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: With no particular source, except pronunciation of the French "au", I have always thought 'Youngcault' was a Frenchman's attempt to record the Indian name from a "young colt". Standard pronunciation was just coming into being, so many words were still being spelled as they sounded to an Englishman's ears. (Is this called transliteration?) I think the James Greenwood who stayed with my great great grandfather Judge Thomas Greenwood was James Case Greenwood, born in The Half Breed Farm neighborhood about 1841 and shown in the St. Joseph Mission baptismal records. My notes say he was just a young boy at the time. I think one would be in error if they held the unconscious idea that everyone called a certain group of Indians by the same name. I seem to think that those baptismal records have Caleb saying the mother of those children was of the "pied noir" tribe (and that would have been a contemporary reference; or, was she one of those wives described as a 'sauvagasse'?). In any case, the French DID NOT MEAN that those they called "sauvagasse" were wild and untamed Indians! You will find other mountain men who had their children baptized at the same time. "Wild, untamed, uncivilized by any standard", was a twist on the general meaning of the French by Englishmen -- all of whom were very biased in their understanding of the French. To the French it simply meant that the person was born on the western prairies. Where was it the Father DeSmet went later one to spend time amongst less civilized Indians? WHERE WAS BATCHIKA BURIED?-- I think she was buried around present Thurman, Iowa. My mother was born on Judge Greenwood's farm, and said farmers in the area were known to have found "Indian" graves on their land. And there would have been the problem of transporting her to St. Louis at such an early date. WHAT WAS THE DATE FOR THE GEMECKER CARING FOR THE GREENWOODS?-- I haven't the slightest idea as to where my notes would be - or if I still have them. If I wander across them, I hope to remember to enter that information of Rootsweb. Since I am the oldest living member of my mother's family, I don't have anyone else to ask! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.