This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Tfaw2 Surnames: Faw Faw, Bernard, Scovile, Green, Lovelady Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.iowa.counties.fremont/7414.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Walter: First, I can't help but think that maybe Joseph Bernard was older than that. Like maybe born around 1780. "Pioneer and his prodigy" states that he was an old man when he died. But what would you say constitutes an old man in 1842? His late 50's or early 60's? Younger? Second, His first child was not a son like the article "Pioneer and his prodigy" states. His first child was Rosallie Bernard Scovile, she was 28 in 1856 born about 1828, married and living in California. Lewis Bernard was 25 in 1856 born about 1831. Lewis was only 11 when Joseph died. Mabel's notes stated in the estate papers in June of 1846 that two people HA A. Green and W. Lovelady were paid for support of the Bernard heirs. Why would that be? THird, Now Mi-Am-Pi-Ma was born about 1811 which would mean that she was 17 at the time of Rosallie's birth, which sounds right to me. Also you have to give at least a year before that for pregnancy. So I estimate that she married Joseph Bernard around 1827 at the age of 16 which also sounds about right. Fourth, I don't think that Mi-Am-Pi-Ma was his first wife or his only wife. I think he had been in the area much longer than that. I think that he came to the area around 1800 and was a French Fur Trader. I think that he lived with the Otoe then, had a family with an Otoe wife and that Mi-Am-Pi-Ma was her younger sister. I think that his Otoe Wife died maybe during childbirth or from an illness like small pox which was prevalent at that time in the Missouri River Valley among the Indian tribes. Maybe even his children with her died too. There were alot of deaths among the tribes then. If his first wife died then he would have been obligated Indian way to marry her younger sister. Just a thought, could I be on to something? Thanks for your thoughts Tammy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.