I'm searching, in vain, through the 1930 census looking for my father (and his parents). Herbert (Bert) VOGEL, son of Louis & Lillian They had been living on Windsor Ave next to his brother. But around that time, grandma and grandpa Vogel moved to California and dad lived at the Y. I don't remember what street the Y was on, 9th maybe??? I suppose they enumerated boarders there. Thanks. Ellen