>30 July 1852, it does not give any information about age, or where >he was from. the Certificate # is 1017 you can write to the Court >House but I dothe Genealogical Society's research and know that it >is sealed by the Court. This sounds very bizarre. Records from 1852 cannot be seen by the public? Or is it that the public is not permitted to handle the originals? Not the case in Maryland. Want to see a will from 1743? If they have the original and it's in reasonable condition, the state archives will let you see it. -- Craig O'Donnell Sinepuxent Ancestors & Boats <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/> The Proa FAQ <http://boat-links.com/proafaq.html> The Cheap Pages <http://www2.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/> Sailing Canoes, Polytarp Sails, Bamboo, Chinese Junks, American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll, Plywood Boats, Bamboo Rafts, &c. _________________________________ -- Professor of Boatology -- Junkomologist -- Macintosh kinda guy Friend of Wanda the Wonder Cat, 1991-1997. _________________________________

ADMIN Forward. Reply to Gail at Galapoochi@aol.com _________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Galapoochi@aol.com> To: <woodside.1728@home.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 6:29 AM Subject: New metro area Scottish society > With the kind permission of Kathleen, I am pleased to announce the formation > of a New York metropolitan area group, the Scottish Heritage and Ancestral > Research Society, based in Plainview, Long Island. For further information > please e-mail me at Galapoochi@aol.com or call 1-631-462-9684. > > Regards, > Gail Giella >

ADMIN Forward! Nancy's messages to the list are bouncing as {not a subscriber}. Remember! If you change email addresses, your ISP changes domain names or you're seeing one of these messages referring to a problem with your list postings, contact me off-list for resolution. -- Kathleen List Admin [at Kathleen's Korner woodside.1728@home.com] ======================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "nrudolph" <nrudolph@internet1.net> To: <IADUBUQU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [IA..Dubuque] Declaration for Citizenship > As you probably already know, the books published by the Dubuque Society are indexes to the actual declarations held in the court house. > > As recently as 1998 I wrote to the court house and they sent me a certified copy of the declaration I requested. You must provide book and page. I don't recall if I enclosed a check or sent one upon receipt. Suggest you call the Clerk of District Court in Dubuque to inquire. Sorry I do not have the number at hand. > > Nancy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kathy Stoneberg <K11m17s@aol.com> > > > > Would someone be able to tell me how to get a copy of the declaration to be a U.S. citizen for John mcGinty who made his declaration on July 30, 1852 per the index located in Dubuque County, IA?

Hi, I am looking for information on my Robert Kirkby. He was born in Boston, Massachusetts probably in the late 1790's. I do not know his parent's names but they were from England. I am wondering if Robert's parent's names are William Kirkby and Hannah Church but I am only guessing this from info that I have seen posted and from looking at the names of Robert's children. I am posting to this list because one of Robert's and Jane's sons, William Tucker Kirkby, lived in Dubuque, Dubuque County, Iowa. Please look at the outline below and if you have any clues about this family please e-mail me. Sincerely, Renee Adams Werth brtw@flash.net Descendants of Robert Kirkby 1 Robert Kirkby b: Massachusetts d: Abt. 1850 . +Submission Jane Cowen b: December 23, 1818 Ohio m: Abt. 1836 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio d: January 20, 1895 Seneca, Lake County, Florida . 2 Emma Church Kirkby b: February 18, 1840 Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio d: June 03, 1898 Eureka Springs, Carroll County, Arkansas ..... +Philip Weber b: November 12, 1831 Bavaria, Germany m: September 18, 1868 Covington, Kenton County, Kentucky d: October 02, 1910 . 2 William Tucker Kirkby b: April 20, 1843 Franklin County, Indiana d: July 20, 1930 Waukegan, Lake County, Illinois ..... +Mary Jane Massey b: Abt. 1842 Kentucky m: September 18, 1868 d: July 03, 1891 Dubuque, Dubuque County, Iowa . *2nd Wife of William Tucker Kirkby: ..... +Mary Finnerty m: June 05, 1895 Dubuque, Dubuque County, Iowa . 2 Mary/Dollie Kirkby b: December 25, 1845 Kentucky d: Aft. 1913 ..... +James B. Kelly b: December 09, 1833 Kentucky m: December 11, 1871 d: January 15, 1903 Tampa, Hillsborough County, Florida . 2 Elizabeth Kirkby b: Abt. 1849 Florida . 2 Richard Kirkby b: Abt. 1851 Indiana ..... +Clara G. Scott b: Abt. 1860 Indiana m: August 11, 1881 Mills County, Iowa

In a message dated 1/20/2002 4:38:03 PM Central Daylight Time, dckcgs@hotmail.com writes: > the decleration of intent book 1 is sealed at the Dubuque County Court > House. I can tel you that he was signed 30 July 1852, it does not give any > information about age, or where he was from. the Certificate # is 1017 you > can write to the Court House but I dothe Genealogical Society's research > and > know that it is sealed by the Court. > Thank you for the information. Does anyone know why the Court would seal the records? Kathy Stoneberg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kstoneberg/ourfamily.htm

Kathy, the decleration of intent book 1 is sealed at the Dubuque County Court House. I can tel you that he was signed 30 July 1852, it does not give any information about age, or where he was from. the Certificate # is 1017 you can write to the Court House but I dothe Genealogical Society's research and know that it is sealed by the Court. >From: K11m17s@aol.com >Reply-To: IADUBUQU-L@rootsweb.com >To: IADUBUQU-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [IA..Dubuque] Declaration for Citizenship >Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 23:22:42 EST > >Would someone be able to tell me how to get a copy of the declaration to be >a >U.S. citizen for John mcGinty who made his declaration on July 30, 1852 per >the index located in Dubuque County, IA? > >Thank you > >Kathy Stoneberg >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kstoneberg/ourfamily.htm > > >==== IADUBUQU Mailing List ==== >NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this >list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times >of those we seek goes, but MUST be kept within the *List's Golden Rule*. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

In a message dated 1/19/2002 7:11:30 PM Central Daylight Time, MITHRUS1@aol.com writes: > The books include the following information Thank you, Kathy Stoneberg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kstoneberg/ourfamily.htm

Kathy, The books include the following information: Columns: 1: page no. in the original volume 2: name as given in the original signature 3: ages as of date of declaration was signed 4: nationality of declarer 5: date of landing in USA 6 date of signing declaration Name Index that corresponds with the before mentioned columns. From there you can obtain the State of Iowa, Dubuque County -Declaration of Intent that was issued from the Clerk of the District Court and then onto your passenger records... (P.S. your family members are probably in book 2 or 3, and not in Book 4 as I had mentioned.... (this I have in my inventory) Much Success!! C.Ehlers Mithrus1@aol.com

In a message dated 1/19/2002 10:30:13 AM Central Daylight Time, MITHRUS1@aol.com writes: > you could write to the Dubuque County-Key City Genealogical Society, they > have the Declaration of Intenet to Become a Citizen's books.... I believe > yours would be in Book 3 or 4, and you can order it from Loras College, or > if > your in Dubuque, you can go to the courthouse (they will not mail you > anything) > Thank you. Do you know if the books just have a listing or is there other information from the declaration? Kathy Stoneberg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kstoneberg/ourfamily.htm

Kathy,, you could write to the Dubuque County-Key City Genealogical Society, they have the Declaration of Intenet to Become a Citizen's books.... I believe yours would be in Book 3 or 4, and you can order it from Loras College, or if your in Dubuque, you can go to the courthouse (they will not mail you anything) All address's are online, they are great records..... Good Luck! CEhlers > Would someone be able to tell me how to get a copy of the declaration to be > a > U.S. citizen for John mcGinty who made his declaration on July 30, 1852 per > the index located in Dubuque County, IA? > > C.Ehlers Mithrus1@aol.com

I hope that this information may help someone trying to find a lost ancestor or someone researching religious orders in Dubuque County, IA. I ran across these and found them interesting. Dubuque County 1880 Census Transcriptions can be found on our web page for Sisters of Charity of the Blessed Virgin Mary (B.V.M.) Table Mound at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kstoneberg/sistersofcharity.html Sisters of Charity, Mercy Hospital Sisters of Mercy County Poor Farm at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kstoneberg/dubuque1880.html Kathy Stoneberg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kstoneberg/ourfamily.htm

Would someone be able to tell me how to get a copy of the declaration to be a U.S. citizen for John mcGinty who made his declaration on July 30, 1852 per the index located in Dubuque County, IA? Thank you Kathy Stoneberg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kstoneberg/ourfamily.htm

I ran across the 1880 Census index for the Sisters Of Charity Of The B. V. M., Table Mound, Dubuque, Iowa and thought it might be useful for people searching for lost female relatives. There are many names listed. I created a quick web page on our family page so you can view it. The source is: Census Place: Sisters Of Charity Of The B. V. M., Table Mound, Dubuque, Iowa Source: FHL Film 1254338 National Archives Film T9-0338 Page 442A The URL is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kstoneberg/sistersofcharity.html Hope someone finds the information useful. Kathy Stoneberg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kstoneberg/ourfamily.htm

Ok, the father was Thomas b 1852, Mom Mary b 1852; kids were mostly born in Monona, Iowa and they moved to Prarie Creek Twp in ~ 1893. The kids were: Thomas b 1878 d 1911 Annie b 1880 Mary b 1883 Catherine b 1886 Rosie b 1887 Ellen b 1889 Maggie b 1891 Margaret b 1894 Thanks!

In a message dated 01/12/2002 5:33:13 PM Central Standard Time, Shellymc2@aol.com writes: > Glenda, > I would love that, but, as the only boy in the family was a monk, my > McGovern's should have married names if they are related??????? > > Shelly > ---------------------------- Dear Shelly: They could still be uncles or relatives, etc. Call this guy, Clem, in Dubuque. I think he should know every McGovern. Clem McGovern - 563-556-5944 Lynn & Pat McGovern - 563-556-0433 If you resend me the note with the names of the sisters located in Dyersville, I will look up their phone numbers. Glenda

Glenda, I would love that, but, as the only boy in the family was a monk, my McGovern's should have married names if they are related??????? Shelly

In a message dated 01/12/2002 12:10:32 AM Central Standard Time, neiersj@hiwaay.net writes: > Glenda, > > You are absolutely right about the lack of McGoverns in the Cascade phone > book. > There was a large family (of girls) > You might check Jerry and Joan (McGovern) Otting, Louis and Betty > (McGovern) > Leibold, Robert and Faith (McGovern) Kelly (in Worthington). > > Jim > I bet those family members could get you started in the right direction. There are many in the Dubuque phone book that are in or near Peosta. If anyone wants me to look up the telephone numbers, I can do that for you. Glenda

Thanks for all of the help with the McGovern name. This family had only one boy and 7 girls! The boy became a Monk, so.....very hard to trace. I appreciate all of the input from everyone! Shelly

Glenda, You are absolutely right about the lack of McGoverns in the Cascade phone book. There was a large family (of girls) You might check Jerry and Joan (McGovern) Otting, Louis and Betty (McGovern) Leibold, Robert and Faith (McGovern) Kelly (in Worthington). Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <GSVize@aol.com> To: <IADUBUQU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [IADubuque] McGovern > Jim: > > Cascade and New Melleray are not that far a part. I would say there is a good > chance they were related. There are not any McGovern's in the Cascade phone > book. > > Glenda > ----------------------------------------------------------- > In a message dated 01/11/2002 8:47:13 PM Central Standard Time, > neiersj@hiwaay.net writes: > > > > Subj:Re: [IADubuque] McGovern > > Date:01/11/2002 8:47:13 PM Central Standard Time > > From:<A HREF="mailto:neiersj@hiwaay.net">neiersj@hiwaay.net</A> > > Reply-to:<A HREF="mailto:IADUBUQU-L@rootsweb.com">IADUBUQU-L@rootsweb.com</A> > > To:<A HREF="mailto:IADUBUQU-L@rootsweb.com">IADUBUQU-L@rootsweb.com</A> > > Sent from the Internet > > > > I have a Thomas McGovern that married Philomena Moes at Cascade 11 OCT > > 1911. > > Thomas was the son of William McGovern & Jane __?__ , born 15 NOV 1878. > > This family was living on a farm in Richland twp., Jones County per the > > 1920 > > Federal census. There are several decsendants of this family in the > > Cascade > > area. I do not know how or if this McGovern relates to the family around > > the New Mellory / Placid area. > > > > Jim in Alabama > > > > researching LOES descendants > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <GSVize@aol.com> > > To: <IADUBUQU-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:02 AM > > Subject: Re: [IADubuque] McGovern > > > > > > > In a message dated 01/10/2002 11:26:51 PM Central Standard Time, > > > Shellymc2@aol.com writes: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I am new to this board. I am researching the McGovern surname in > > Iowa. > > > > I have located the family in 1880 in Monona, Clayton Co. IA. > > > > In 1900, I have a McGovern family that has moved to Dubuque Co., > > > > > > Prairie Creek Twp. They are: > > > > Thomas 48 > > > > Mary (nee Geraghty, Garrity?) 48 > > > > Thomas 22 > > > > Annie 20 > > > > Mary 17 > > > > Catherine 14 > > > > Rosie 12 > > > > Ellen 10 > > > > Maggie 9 > > > > Margaret 6 > > > > > > > > Neighbors names as per census: Sullivan, Connelly, Duggan, O'Brien, > > > > McCarthy > > > > > > > > I think the church would have been? Holy Family? > > > > > > > > The oldest son, Thomas became a Monk at the New Melleray Abbey, where > > he > > > > died in 1911 of TB > > > > > > > > Thomas' brothers names: Patrick and James, and a sister Mary - 2 > > years > > > > younger than him are all that we know of. > > > > > > > > Shellymc2@aol.com > > > > McGovern web page: http://hometown.aol.com/shellymc2/index.html > > > > > > > ---------------------------------- > > > I live in Dubuque. I looked in the phone book for these addresses and > > phone > > > numbers for you. I think the church and the Abbey would be a good place > > to > > > start. > > > > > > There are about 20 McGovern's in the Dubuque phone book. I just selected > > a > > > Thomas. > > > There are 3 Geraghty in the Dubuque phone book. > > > There is 1 Garrity in the Dubuque phone book. > > > > > > Holy Family Church > > > 16500 Holy Family Lane > > > Peosta, IA 52068 > > > 563-556-6400 > > > > > > New Melleray Abbey > > > 6500 Melleray Circle > > > Peosta, IA 52068 > > > 563-588-2319 > > > > > > Thomas McGovern > > > 563-582-2970 > > > > > > Sincerely, Glenda > > > > ==== IADUBUQU Mailing List ==== > ROLL CALLS? Not permitted unless instituted by the List Admin. But post > your interests and areas of search often. New members join every day. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks again. I'll file this unter Thomas until I dig up some more info! Shelly