In a message dated 7/20/2005 3:14:45 PM Mountain Daylight Time, jscott@parkspringscommunities.com writes: I had a shovel and I just smashed and smased - I expect I killed hundreds of thousands - along with a lot of adults. Ok now Jack, it would seem that you not only whacked those grasshoppers but adults too. How many of the adults died as a result of your whacking? Did you mean to tell us that? <VBG> ;-) Carol