Martha is wonderful! She found my ggrandparents marriage record in 1855! Try these: ORMSBY, Ada R. Marr 1873 IOWA Sp: Stephen R. BICKFORD-Jackson IA ORMSBEY, D. B. Marr 1895 IOWA Sp: Gusta L. BECKER-Muscatine IA ORMSBY, Maggie Marr 1886 IOWA Sp: Winfield Scott MARTIN I also have quite a few from ILL. If any are yours, let me know. I'll send the details. Lynn Clarke Dallas, TX iowatex1@netzero.net