This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Zk.2ADE/986.1.1 Message Board Post: I am sorry, I know nothing more than this. I have tried and tried to find info. I believe she may have lived in Honor, Mich or in the near areas. In fact I know she live someplace in that area at one time. There is some confusion as to wheather her married name was McCall or McGill. I just know her maden name was Mary Muttart. Mother Bertha Carpenter and father probably Angus Muttart. As far as Bertha Carpenter - Muttart. I found something one of my distant cousins posted. Her birth was 1864, married 1892 to Angus Muttart in Owen Sound. I talked with another cusin in Mich from her side of the family and she staes her last name when she died was Harger not Harder. This cousin is in her late 80's and would be the only person to know. She also stated she is barried in Inland Township which is in Mich. up near Honor/Benzonia area. That's all I know and all I have been able to find out via the web and via a distant relative.