This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Vk.2ADE/836.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Dear Marjorie There is an Alfred B. born 1830 (S marital status)There are several Catherine F., catherine A. both born in 1811 Catherine born in 1815 one is 1816 and a Catherine A. born in 1824. all married but Catherine A. in 1824 died and single. There is a Martha Born 1732 one in 1794 one in 1768 one in 1800 one in 1802 one in 1796( one in 1811 this one was called Patsey) one in 1802 . all married but the one born in 1732 wasn't .If You want to send me more data I can look for more. John/Jan Van Cleef (Van Cleave, Van Cleve) was born in 1627 or 28.he was born in Amsterdam. He was from the Rhenish duchy of Cleve(Kleve or Cleves). adjacent to the Netherlands. He came to America in 1653. a farmer in Gravesdend,Long Island, in 1656 and possibly living in New Utrecht as early as 1659. I will have to read this book again. to fill you in after you send me more data. As ever, Shirley O.Booze Gilbert