Speaking as a contemporary Australian, 36 years old is not old enough to have had female contemporaries denied equal pay for equal work, or to be able to remember such inequalities. I can not speak for other nations. . Perhaps one is too easily offended, or unaware of some of the issues, and could benefit from a little more research, or should engage in dialogue with the author of the previous message to better understand his point of view. Your rage is misplaced. Anyway, it would appear that the critical divide is now coming down to matters of materially dominated cultures being reined in, for the sake of all.. It makes no difference who is in charge of a tip. A tip is still a tip. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew J. Hunt" <matt@hunttech.net> To: <hunt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [HUNT] My Hunt Line....and some of topic stuff. > Since when did a mailing list dedicated to GENEALOGY turn into a soapbox > for > political idealogy? > > You said, "The political climate today, wants to rewrite history and fails > to point out what women really did..." Oh, really? It seems to me that the > "the political environment today" is (for the first time in history) > providing the first female candidate in a serious bid for President of the > United States of America. Of what "rewriting" are you talking about? I > seem > to recall the names of prominent female leaders throughout history. I > don't > believe they have been rewritten from *my* memory.... And I am 36 years > old. > > "If it wasn't for women, us men, would still be running around in the > forest. Happy, but still wild and free." Are you kidding me? Go to > continents that actually have a matriarchal society and see how "advanced" > they are. It doesn't matter what "sex" is in a leadership role... All > societies have their flaws. To place the blame on males for obscuring the > role of females is ridiculous. (I believe the Queen of England might take > contention with your statement, as would Margaret Thatcher or Condoleeza > Rice.) You should cite examples as to why "if it wasn't for women... still > be running around in the forest." AND FOR THAT MATTER, what's wrong with > "HAPPY, but still wild and FREE?" > > "Take the case of Huntsville. Four men came together and started the > town. > All four were married to sisters." - How did being married to fours > sisters > contribute anything to the foundation of the town? Were the four sisters > in > collusion to force these men to do "the right thing"? Empty statement > linking facts not related to the end result. Families in the early stages > of > our country intermarried constantly. > > "Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts will go on and on, as long as the women > there are treated as property and not as equals." - This particular > "political environment" has influenced the changes taking place in those > countries... Including women voting. Has that change made a real impact? > Is > our system "correct" and was their pre-existing one "incorrect"? I put it > to > you that all human-borne systems are flawed, and looking to one you do not > live in nor understand fully (yet want to change) is deeply misguided. > > "After WWII, Mac Arthur gave the vote to the Japanese Women. That one > act > civilized Japan (not trying to insult anyone)." - Are you freakin' nuts? > How > long were the Japanese people "civilized" before this country even began? > You may not have been trying to insult anyone, but I'm sure that you did > just that to the whole of Japan with that statement. I suppose that all > the > way up until the point that women in Japan were able to vote, the men were > just running around in the forest, free and happy... > > "My point is, the women in Genealogy are often overlooked and I for one > wish > to thank all of them for putting up with us." - Men need to be men. We > don't > need apologists for being men. We furthermore do not need ethics, > political, > nor idealogical lessons in a mailing list dedicated to GENEALOGY. > > Off-topic, to say the least. When you contribute to a mailing list, your > email acts as an ambassador who is welcomed into email inboxes around the > globe. When it it as off-topic and as preachy as yours, that ambassador is > asked to leave and never come back. > > > Goodbye, HUNT LIST. Unsubscribing immediately. > ... > Matthew J. Hunt > Hunt Technical Services, Inc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hunt-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hunt-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf > Of JRB6886@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 3:16 AM > To: HUNT@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HUNT] My Hunt Line....and some of topic stuff. > > My Hunt line is from Daniel Hunt and Susannah Lowrence Green (not sure > if > the surname is correct) to Jonathan Hunt and Aisley Berry to Susanna Hunt > and Charles Johnston Bailey (Charles is the brother of Agnes Bailey, she > marries Daniel Hunt (Huntsville, Randolph County, Missouri), a brother of > Susanna) to William Hunt Bailey and Elizabeth Emerson to Simpson Newton > Bailey and Thomas (female) Alison Jennings to Walter Hunt Bailey and > Rosetta Pearman to Fern Rufus Bailey, Sr. and Anna Belle Colwell to F. R. > Bailey, Jr. and Velda Jo Christy.......to Me. > > I have lots of information from William Hunt Bailey on down. I would > like > to add any good information to my files that connects in any way. > > I have noticed over the years that it is increasingly difficult to find > the > surnames of our women ancestry. This is a same as women have built the > civilizations we live in. The political climate today, wants to rewrite > history and fails to point out what women really did. They founded the > cities and towns. Take the case of Huntsville. Four men came together > and > started the town. All four were married to sisters. If it wasn't for > women, us men, would > still be running around in the forest. Happy, but still wild and free. > > In Northern Ireland the Troubles were ended (or at least improved) by two > women coming together and saying enough is enough. After WWII, Mac Arthur > gave the vote to the Japanese Women. That one act civilized Japan (not > trying to insult anyone). Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts will go on and > on, as long as the women there are treated as property and not as equals. > > My point is, the women in Genealogy are often overlooked and I for one > wish to thank all of them for putting up with us. > > > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

The below topic is now ended. Please do not post any replies to the non-genealogy part. Re: [HUNT] My Hunt Line....and some of topic stuff. Thanks you Courtney sitnah@cox.net HUNT list moderator

This is a genealogy forum not a political blog. Please save this stuff for somewhere else. MB Slane -----Original Message----- From: hunt-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hunt-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Deb Guildner Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 4:06 AM To: matt@hunttech.net; hunt@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNT] My Hunt Line....and some of topic stuff. Speaking as a contemporary Australian, 36 years old is not old enough to have had female contemporaries denied equal pay for equal work, or to be able to remember such inequalities. I can not speak for other nations. . Perhaps one is too easily offended, or unaware of some of the issues, and could benefit from a little more research, or should engage in dialogue with the author of the previous message to better understand his point of view. Your rage is misplaced. Anyway, it would appear that the critical divide is now coming down to matters of materially dominated cultures being reined in, for the sake of all.. It makes no difference who is in charge of a tip. A tip is still a tip. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew J. Hunt" <matt@hunttech.net> To: <hunt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [HUNT] My Hunt Line....and some of topic stuff. > Since when did a mailing list dedicated to GENEALOGY turn into a soapbox > for > political idealogy? > > You said, "The political climate today, wants to rewrite history and fails > to point out what women really did..." Oh, really? It seems to me that the > "the political environment today" is (for the first time in history) > providing the first female candidate in a serious bid for President of the > United States of America. Of what "rewriting" are you talking about? I > seem > to recall the names of prominent female leaders throughout history. I > don't > believe they have been rewritten from *my* memory.... And I am 36 years > old. > > "If it wasn't for women, us men, would still be running around in the > forest. Happy, but still wild and free." Are you kidding me? Go to > continents that actually have a matriarchal society and see how "advanced" > they are. It doesn't matter what "sex" is in a leadership role... All > societies have their flaws. To place the blame on males for obscuring the > role of females is ridiculous. (I believe the Queen of England might take > contention with your statement, as would Margaret Thatcher or Condoleeza > Rice.) You should cite examples as to why "if it wasn't for women... still > be running around in the forest." AND FOR THAT MATTER, what's wrong with > "HAPPY, but still wild and FREE?" > > "Take the case of Huntsville. Four men came together and started the > town. > All four were married to sisters." - How did being married to fours > sisters > contribute anything to the foundation of the town? Were the four sisters > in > collusion to force these men to do "the right thing"? Empty statement > linking facts not related to the end result. Families in the early stages > of > our country intermarried constantly. > > "Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts will go on and on, as long as the women > there are treated as property and not as equals." - This particular > "political environment" has influenced the changes taking place in those > countries... Including women voting. Has that change made a real impact? > Is > our system "correct" and was their pre-existing one "incorrect"? I put it > to > you that all human-borne systems are flawed, and looking to one you do not > live in nor understand fully (yet want to change) is deeply misguided. > > "After WWII, Mac Arthur gave the vote to the Japanese Women. That one > act > civilized Japan (not trying to insult anyone)." - Are you freakin' nuts? > How > long were the Japanese people "civilized" before this country even began? > You may not have been trying to insult anyone, but I'm sure that you did > just that to the whole of Japan with that statement. I suppose that all > the > way up until the point that women in Japan were able to vote, the men were > just running around in the forest, free and happy... > > "My point is, the women in Genealogy are often overlooked and I for one > wish > to thank all of them for putting up with us." - Men need to be men. We > don't > need apologists for being men. We furthermore do not need ethics, > political, > nor idealogical lessons in a mailing list dedicated to GENEALOGY. > > Off-topic, to say the least. When you contribute to a mailing list, your > email acts as an ambassador who is welcomed into email inboxes around the > globe. When it it as off-topic and as preachy as yours, that ambassador is > asked to leave and never come back. > > > Goodbye, HUNT LIST. Unsubscribing immediately. > ... > Matthew J. Hunt > Hunt Technical Services, Inc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hunt-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hunt-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf > Of JRB6886@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 3:16 AM > To: HUNT@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HUNT] My Hunt Line....and some of topic stuff. > > My Hunt line is from Daniel Hunt and Susannah Lowrence Green (not sure > if > the surname is correct) to Jonathan Hunt and Aisley Berry to Susanna Hunt > and Charles Johnston Bailey (Charles is the brother of Agnes Bailey, she > marries Daniel Hunt (Huntsville, Randolph County, Missouri), a brother of > Susanna) to William Hunt Bailey and Elizabeth Emerson to Simpson Newton > Bailey and Thomas (female) Alison Jennings to Walter Hunt Bailey and > Rosetta Pearman to Fern Rufus Bailey, Sr. and Anna Belle Colwell to F. R. > Bailey, Jr. and Velda Jo Christy.......to Me. > > I have lots of information from William Hunt Bailey on down. I would > like > to add any good information to my files that connects in any way. > > I have noticed over the years that it is increasingly difficult to find > the > surnames of our women ancestry. This is a same as women have built the > civilizations we live in. The political climate today, wants to rewrite > history and fails to point out what women really did. They founded the > cities and towns. Take the case of Huntsville. Four men came together > and > started the town. All four were married to sisters. If it wasn't for > women, us men, would > still be running around in the forest. Happy, but still wild and free. > > In Northern Ireland the Troubles were ended (or at least improved) by two > women coming together and saying enough is enough. After WWII, Mac Arthur > gave the vote to the Japanese Women. That one act civilized Japan (not > trying to insult anyone). Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts will go on and > on, as long as the women there are treated as property and not as equals. > > My point is, the women in Genealogy are often overlooked and I for one > wish to thank all of them for putting up with us. > > > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message