Anne Sprentz wrote: > I thought Karoly was the equivalent of Charles. I found on the web > tonight that Kalman was the equivalent of Charles. Are they both? > My gggrandpa's name was Ferenczi Karoly, but he went by Charles > Ferency. I'm trying to find him on the Ellis Island ship manifest. > I thought I had found him, but now I'm not so sure. I have tried > searching EI reversing the names and inputting them correctly. The > ages don't match up very well. I think a ten year age difference is a > bit much, but I could be wrong. I have tried several different > spellings, but I'm not thrilled with the results. His headstone says > he was born in 1877, and two different census records give his imm. > date as 1.) 1908 2.) 189? . I'm sure he was single when he arrived > in the US. and the first place he was found on the 1920 census was NY. > He married my gggrandmother there. I did find a Charles Ferency in > Cuyahoga, Oh. in 1910, but I'm not sure it's him. Is there another > name he may have used instead of Karoly? > > He had a brother who stayed in Hungary. I was told his name was > Julius, but I'm not sure that's a Hungarian name. It may be the > English version. Does anyone know the Hungarian equivalent of Julius? > > I'm so lost in finding his EI manifest! > > Anne Hi Anne, are you using this site: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html Just use k for first name and feren for last, with 'starts with' selected. I also put in male for gender. Charles is Károly, not Kálmán. The latter sometimes given as Coloman or Colman. Julius would be Gyula in Hungarian. Any trace for naturalization records? How about WW I draft records? Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@ezaccess.net --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net]

Joe, I'm using www.stevemorse.org. I'm pretty sure it's the same search engines as jewishgen.org. There are very few results for Ferenczi (Ferenczy, Ferency, etc) Karoly and the ones I did find that I did consider, the ages are off by like 10 yrs. I have searched for draft records, no luck. I have not yet tried naturalizations records because I'm not positive where he took his papers out from. I was hoping I could find him on the manifest, but since I don't seem to be able to, I will go for the naturalization records. I do have his marriage lisense coming in the mail anytime now, so hopefully that will list his birthplace. It's just very frustrating when I am almost positive he came through Ellis Island but I can't find record of it. There are many posts on radix forum on this surname, so it must be a pretty common name, yet I found so few on the Ellis Island manifests. Thanks for your help. The search continues.............. Anne > > Hi Anne, > > are you using this site: > http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html > Just use k for first name and feren for last, with 'starts with' > selected. I also put in male for gender. > > Charles is Károly, not Kálmán. The latter sometimes given as > Coloman or Colman. Julius would be Gyula in Hungarian. > > Any trace for naturalization records? How about WW I draft records? > > Joe > Equinunk, PA - USA > jjarfas@ezaccess.net > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by ezaccess.net] > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Message transport security by GatewayDefender.com > 1:21:24 AM ET - 3/1/2006 > >