Many thanks for all the kind responses regarding locating Mandok. Thank you, Joe, for clarifying the Szabolcs County not Szatmar. Thank you, Gordon, for the look up offer. Thank you for the links, Janet. I have not used those yet. Now I think many of you begin to understand my quandary. I am certain that Veronika Mate the bride of Louis Veres born circa 1871 was from Vari. That has been substantiated by her grandchildren and the death certificate in Atlantic County, New Jersey as well as the Ellis manifest. The manifest states that Vari is the place of origin and the birthplace for Veronika. Veronika and three children came to Ohio to live with Lajos. The Vari family were Roman Catholic. Our ggrandfather, Lajos Veres, b. circa 1871, was her husband. He is the mystery. He married Veronika (probably at her church), but later was a founder of the Reformed Church in his home town. Question is which town. His manifest from Ellis Island does say Vari as origin and birthplace. First of all, any remaining Veres family members have no interest in where he came from in Hungary. They say these people are all dead now. He came from Hungary is sufficient for them. My husband's mother, Esther, tells me he was from Tiszacsege. I have looked through both the Roman Catholic and Reformed Church records at LDS for the Veres family name and found nothing. Then, Esther tells me he lived by the Tisza River at the base of the Carpathian Mountains. Esther is 85 years old and does not read or write Magyar and disliked Veronika her grandmother. She has not bothered to look for old letters or records that might answer the dilemma. Esther is the daughter of Lajos Veres b. 1889 and granddaughter of Lajos b. circa 1871. The mother of the younger Lajos died at childbirth and we do not know her name. The younger Lajos married Terka Kota from Borsova. Now I have a broad area to investigate. That's how I've begun grabbing at straws. Maybe he told the children and grandchildren Tiszacsecse not Tiszacsege, or he was from Vari, or he was from Borsova. Borsova is a possibility because I have the family Bible of Terka Kota, daughter-in-law of Lajos and she and the Kota line are clearly from Borsova. I have ordered the films from Vari but did not get to use them because for the summer we travel north to Pennsylvania and by the time the tapes came in, I was out of Daytona, FL when the films arrived. I have no idea where to go with this! But I surely do appreciate all the help from the Hungary List Readers. Julie