When you see this confusing mix of "from Hungary", but "Russian" surnames or place names, also throwing in Czechoslovakia (or Czech or Slovak), look into Carpatho-Rusyn ethnicity, and see if that fits. Rusyns are East Slavs, as are Russians and Ukrainians, who lived in historical Hungary and nearby areas. I suspect Balovaretz might actually be spelled starting with Belo- , Belo means "white" in Russian and other Slavic languages. Altho just Googling I'm not finding any hits. I suggest looking at a map, starting maybe in NE Slovakia and moving outward from there, for a village that may sound like Balovaretz. It may even be 2 words, Belo Varets, something like that. Also, some village names have changed. Does anyone have a link to that wonderful 1910 map of Hungary? That might be a good place to look for a name like Balovaretz. Actually, the -etz or -ets ending sounds like a Russian ending to me, and not a Rusyn ending, but I don't know if there is any overlap. I also don't know what it means. And I would guess Djerdj would be a Slavic "George"? All this is speculation on my part. - Elaine E. > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:21:01 -0400 > From: Grayce Ezarik <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Balovaretz > To: [email protected] > > MLP, > > You are absolutely right. His race was Russian and his birthplace > (1910) Hungary. BTW, his uncle or Father was born (1886) in Czech as > were his parents, w/Slovak ethnicity, with the etz ending in his > name. The family recalls being at their (Uncle) farm in Ohio, so it > is not a mythical person. Of course any scenario is a possibility, as > an adoptee etc. > > Uncle's Naturalization index ( #253, 39210 PET 1-30-29, 11 5 1886 BD ), > > with distinct, clear and perfect spelling, listed this as description > of record: > > D-250 Duchene, Frank Nil-D-263 Djerdj, Djokic > > The last two words sound like a port or harbor, but according to > Google, it is a man/woman's name. Same applies to Duchene, Frank. > > Hey, The name is Duchene is similar to the Russian male, whose > surname is Dochenetz. I just now realized that, so the mailing list > is very helpful. > > I will check other nat index cards and see if there is a relationship > to the wording. > > Thanks all. > > grayce in PA > >