MLP, You are absolutely right. His race was Russian and his birthplace (1910) Hungary. BTW, his uncle or Father was born (1886) in Czech as were his parents, w/Slovak ethnicity, with the etz ending in his name. The family recalls being at their (Uncle) farm in Ohio, so it is not a mythical person. Of course any scenario is a possibility, as an adoptee etc. Uncle's Naturalization index ( #253, 39210 PET 1-30-29, 11 5 1886 BD ), with distinct, clear and perfect spelling, listed this as description of record: D-250 Duchene, Frank Nil-D-263 Djerdj, Djokic The last two words sound like a port or harbor, but according to Google, it is a man/woman's name. Same applies to Duchene, Frank. Hey, The name is Duchene is similar to the Russian male, whose surname is Dochenetz. I just now realized that, so the mailing list is very helpful. I will check other nat index cards and see if there is a relationship to the wording. Thanks all. grayce in PA > > Hi list, I am back after a few years....I wonder if anyone has a clue > where I could find where male born in Balovaretz, Hungary, he > speaks English and is Russian (race) as listed on manifest put out by > the U. S. Department of Immigration and Naturalization Services. > > The etz does not sound Hungarian or Russian to me, and btw, the males > name ends with etz. > > I did some searches of villages on Wikipedia, but not to be found in > Hungary. Any hints appreciated. > > Grayce in PA > > > > Hi Grayce, > > A Google search didn't find the Balovaretz spelling; however, > searching a > suffix for etz brought up this: > > According to JewishGen's ShtetlSeeker, Dworetz was situated 16.3 > miles north of Berdichev, and 8.2 miles south of Zhitomer. Thus, > the name Dwor may have resulted by dropping the suffix "-etz." > > > Berdichev was near Kiev - 100 miles southwest. > ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, > also a web site re Yiddish asked the question, but no one answered: > > Subject: etymology of "etz" and "enk" > > "Does anyone know where the use of "etz" and "enk" for ihr and > eich comes > from?" > > ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, > It's a good guess your query person is Russian. > > Marika > > **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your > destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >