This is very possible speculation, keeping an open mind. I have several old maps..... one is 1680-1918. I have a map that shows county of Belovár-Kórös. Good idea to continue to search older maps, even at the good old Library. Thank You so much. grayce in PA On Oct 13, 2008, at 9:17 AM, [email protected] wrote: > When you see this confusing mix of "from Hungary", but "Russian" > surnames or > place names, also throwing in Czechoslovakia (or Czech or Slovak), > look into > Carpatho-Rusyn ethnicity, and see if that fits. Rusyns are East > Slavs, as > are Russians and Ukrainians, who lived in historical Hungary and > nearby > areas. > > I suspect Balovaretz might actually be spelled starting with > Belo- , Belo > means "white" in Russian and other Slavic languages. Altho just > Googling > I'm not finding any hits. I suggest looking at a map, starting > maybe in NE > Slovakia and moving outward from there, for a village that may > sound like > Balovaretz. It may even be 2 words, Belo Varets, something like that. > Also, some village names have changed. Does anyone have a link to > that > wonderful 1910 map of Hungary? That might be a good place to look > for a > name like Balovaretz. > > Actually, the -etz or -ets ending sounds like a Russian ending to > me, and > not a Rusyn ending, but I don't know if there is any overlap. I > also don't > know what it means. And I would guess Djerdj would be a Slavic > "George"? > > All this is speculation on my part. > > - Elaine E. > > > > >> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:21:01 -0400 >> From: Grayce Ezarik <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Balovaretz >> To: [email protected] >> >> MLP, >> >> You are absolutely right. His race was Russian and his birthplace >> (1910) Hungary. BTW, his uncle or Father was born (1886) in Czech as >> were his parents, w/Slovak ethnicity, with the etz ending in his >> name. The family recalls being at their (Uncle) farm in Ohio, so it >> is not a mythical person. Of course any scenario is a possibility, as >> an adoptee etc. >> >> Uncle's Naturalization index ( #253, 39210 PET 1-30-29, 11 5 1886 >> BD ), >> >> with distinct, clear and perfect spelling, listed this as description >> of record: >> >> D-250 Duchene, Frank Nil-D-263 Djerdj, Djokic >> >> The last two words sound like a port or harbor, but according to >> Google, it is a man/woman's name. Same applies to Duchene, Frank. >> >> Hey, The name is Duchene is similar to the Russian male, whose >> surname is Dochenetz. I just now realized that, so the mailing list >> is very helpful. >> >> I will check other nat index cards and see if there is a relationship >> to the wording. >> >> Thanks all. >> >> grayce in PA >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >