I was researching the OTHER side of my family the other day. They are from, well, now it's in northern Italy, but it used to be a part of Austria. I was looking at the death records from around 1800 for Arco, in Trento, Italy. It is at the northern end of Lake Garda, at the southern edge of the Alps. I was surprised to find about 5 or so deaths of Hungarian soldiers around that time there in the south Tyrol. Also 1 soldier from Moravia and one from I believe it said Bosnia. Googling around and checking Wikipedia, I see that Napoleon was invading Italy and Austria around that time. The handwriting from that time is very hard to read. I selected one of the more legible entries for a Hungarian soldier and I will post it here. Unfortunately, there was no information as far as where he was born or where he lived. I have no idea how researchers today would find these death records of their soldier ancestors so far from home: "1797, Nov. 9: Adamo Pruchma, ungarese, e soldato del Regimento Arciduca Antonio ... fu sepolto nel Cimitero dell' insigne Collegiata d'Arco". He was 22 years old, and no cause of death was listed. I skipped (with ...) the section where it lists all the sacraments he received. Running this thru freetranslation.com , I think this translates to something like: "Nov 9, 1797: Adam Pruchma, Hungarian, and soldier of the Regiment of Archduke Anton ... was buried in the Cemetery of the famous Collegiata of Arco." The Collegiata is, I think, the largest church in the area. Does someone have a better understanding of the history of those times than I do? Did Hungary provide troups to help protect the Austrian lands? And they were sent all the way to to the south Tyrol? (Can I possibly be part Hungarian on my Italian side?) - Elaine

You are noble indeed for posting this. Please send more...........maybe our scholars on the list can tell us who Anton the Archduke is. I love this. I ran into records of Napoleon in the records from Winnweiler, Rhinland Pfalz about 1813 - + when searching for GGG. Grayce in PA On Oct 17, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Elaine Evans wrote: > > > "1797, Nov. 9: Adamo Pruchma, ungarese, e soldato del Regimento > Arciduca > Antonio ... fu sepolto nel Cimitero dell' insigne Collegiata > d'Arco". He > was 22 years old, and no cause of death was listed. I skipped > (with ...) > the section where it lists all the sacraments he received. Running > this > thru freetranslation.com , I think this translates to something like: > "Nov 9, 1797: Adam Pruchma, Hungarian, and soldier of the Regiment of > Archduke Anton ... was buried in the Cemetery of the famous > Collegiata of > Arco." > > The Collegiata is, I think, the largest church in the area. > > Does someone have a better understanding of the history of those > times than > I do? Did Hungary provide troups to help protect the Austrian > lands? And > they were sent all the way to to the south Tyrol? (Can I possibly > be part > Hungarian on my Italian side?) > > - Elaine > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

No question about it, Elaine, those Hungarian soldiers were part of the troops of the Austrian Empire serving in this region. I have spent last night reading upon the 'Napoleonic Wars' and 'Italian campaign' to find relevant information on the unit mentioned and the people involved in the Trentino region. One resource would be this site: http://www.napoleon-series.org/ Found also plenty of Hungarian references which even mention how some citizens in Trento (when met by the French troops) who happened to be of Hungarian origin, promised security and safe living ... alas it was all in Hungarian. Since the specific date you mention for those soldiers' death (1797) I could not find relevant data showing which units were doing what around there; and visited so many web sites I lost some of them! :-( Since none of us are scholars of any 'renown', we have to rely on the Internet to dig up some of this history also. Well, not too likely any of those soldiers had families of their own if they were as young as you indicated, but I'm sure researchers of collateral lines will have a hard time locating those death records! :-) And yes, you could have some Hungarian blood running in your veins even from that part of the world! :-) Joe Equinunk, PA - USA [email protected] Elaine Evans wrote: >I was researching the OTHER side of my family the other day. They are from, >well, now it's in northern Italy, but it used to be a part of Austria. I >was looking at the death records from around 1800 for Arco, in Trento, >Italy. It is at the northern end of Lake Garda, at the southern edge of the >Alps. > >I was surprised to find about 5 or so deaths of Hungarian soldiers around >that time there in the south Tyrol. Also 1 soldier from Moravia and one >from I believe it said Bosnia. Googling around and checking Wikipedia, I see >that Napoleon was invading Italy and Austria around that time. > >The handwriting from that time is very hard to read. I selected one of the >more legible entries for a Hungarian soldier and I will post it here. >Unfortunately, there was no information as far as where he was born or where >he lived. I have no idea how researchers today would find these death >records of their soldier ancestors so far from home: > >"1797, Nov. 9: Adamo Pruchma, ungarese, e soldato del Regimento Arciduca >Antonio ... fu sepolto nel Cimitero dell' insigne Collegiata d'Arco". He >was 22 years old, and no cause of death was listed. I skipped (with ...) >the section where it lists all the sacraments he received. Running this >thru freetranslation.com , I think this translates to something like: >"Nov 9, 1797: Adam Pruchma, Hungarian, and soldier of the Regiment of >Archduke Anton ... was buried in the Cemetery of the famous Collegiata of >Arco." > >The Collegiata is, I think, the largest church in the area. > >Does someone have a better understanding of the history of those times than >I do? Did Hungary provide troups to help protect the Austrian lands? And >they were sent all the way to to the south Tyrol? (Can I possibly be part >Hungarian on my Italian side?) > >- Elaine >