Hi all, hoping everybody had a Happy Thanksgiving; let me tell you - those who know German - about a book I just found from the Hungarian list: http://mek.oszk.hu/08900/08903/ Well worth reading, because this fellow completely changed even my perception about our ancestors' being 'barbarians' when they (in the ninth and tenth centuries) roamed all over Europe and devastated big parts of it. Sorry to say I don't know of any English (or even Hungarian) translation. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@verizon.net