--- On Tue, 11/9/10, magda <mag_ton@yahoo.com> wrote: From: magda <mag_ton@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: HUNGARY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 356 To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 8:39 PM The embassy charges $ 69.00 to get a certificate now . Still pondering on whether to wait for more microfilms of post -1900 records ....................magda --- On Tue, 11/9/10, hungary-request@rootsweb.com <hungary-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: hungary-request@rootsweb.com <hungary-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: HUNGARY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 356 To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 4:46 PM Today's Topics: 1. contact info for reserch in Johnstown PA area (MLPecsi@aol.com) 2. Birth Certificates (Nick M. Gombash) 3. Re: Birth Certificates (Rose Somraty Yarbrough) 4. Translation help, please (Thressa Paplanus) 5. Re: Birth Certificates (Laszlo (Les) Josa) 6. Re: Birth Certificates (Nick M. Gombash) 7. Re: Birth Certificates (Irving Schlinger) 8. Re: Birth Certificates (vagyokjim) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 08:59:11 EST From: MLPecsi@aol.com Subject: [HUNGARY] contact info for reserch in Johnstown PA area To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <2ecbd.448bc95d.3a0aadaf@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Anybody researching Hungarians in the Johnstown PA area? It was a hub for Hungarian settlers. Just ran across this in The Tribune-Democrat newspaper web site: Contact Us If you are interested in researching back issues or if you need a copy of a newspaper more than one year old, we can refer you to the Cambria County Library Reference Department. For a nominal fee, they will research births, deaths and marriages and they can reproduce old articles from the newspaper directly from microfilm. They can be contacted at 814-536-5131 or at 248 Main Street, Johnstown, PA 15901. _http://www.cclib.lib.pa.us/services_reference.htm_ (http://www.cclib.lib.pa.us/services_reference.htm ) Mailing address The Tribune-Democrat 425 Locust St PO Box 340 Johnstown PA 15907-0340 Marika ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 11:44:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Nick M. Gombash" <nickmgombash@yahoo.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates To: hungary@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <418007.84577.qm@web53907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for others who aren't sure either. I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I include money with the request? If so, how much? Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and put on my website to further help others. I appreciate any help! Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:03:46 -0600 From: "Rose Somraty Yarbrough" <ryarbrough09@charter.net> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <009b01cb8049$38651e30$a92f5a90$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Nick: Wow, that was a good question. I've never done that either. I would know how to begin ordering these documents? Rose -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:44 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for others who aren't sure either. I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I include money with the request? If so, how much? Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and put on my website to further help others. I appreciate any help! Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:50:49 -0800 (PST) From: Thressa Paplanus <tpaplanu@swbell.net> Subject: [HUNGARY] Translation help, please To: hungary@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <707784.75719.qm@web81806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I received the following from Radix forum. Can someone please translate it for me? I tried Google translate but couldn't make any usable meaning from it. Thanks for any help. Az en lanykori nevem Friedman Veronika En Tarcalon Szulettem es ott mentem iskolaba Az apukamnak volt egy lany testvare aki Cecilia Friedman volt de ok Tarcalon Laktak Azt hiszem harom kulonbozo Friedman csalad lakott tarcalon a haboru eloot En most Londonban Angliaban lakom. Nagyon szeretnem Apukam Neve volt Friedman Mor.volt egyFuszeruzlete a Keresztury ut sarkam az o apja neve volt Majer Friedman es ugy tudom hogy a Majer apjanak a neve volt Sloime Zalman Friedman Ha valaki tudna nekem segiteni ki volt a Sloime Zalman apja es anyja nagyon nagyon megkoszonnem vagy pedig barmilyen mas adatokat a dede szuleimrol? E-mail cimem paveanyu@Gmail.com Thressa "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb." Benjamin Franklin Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction. No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:52:12 -0600 From: "Laszlo \(Les\) Josa" <lesjosa@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAFiDtQkzirRLpPGgZcnxc1/CgAAAEAAAAKuZSjn/qfhFn4ryOAPBt7gBAAAAAA==@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Nick, back in 2004 I needed my birth certificate to apply for my citizenship. I was already a citizen because I was under 18 when my parents became citizen, but I never got the paper. I could not find my birth certificate so I did two things. I called the Hungarian embassy and they ordered my birth certificate which cost me about 25 dollars. I also called the city hall in Balatonalmadi and asked them for a copy of my birth certificate. I told them I will be sending a relative to pick it up. They charged him 30 dollars and he mailed it to me. The one I ordered from the embassy arrived about 3 weeks after my call to them. Here is a webpage for the embassy. http://www.huembwas.org/Consul/ENG/classical_cases/get_certificates/Certific ates.htm Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:44 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for others who aren't sure either. I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I include money with the request? If so, how much? Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and put on my website to further help others. I appreciate any help! Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 13:09:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Nick M. Gombash" <nickmgombash@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates To: hungary@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <169957.98217.qm@web53903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thank you for the information, Les. Helpful as always! And wow.. I guess the fee has went up to $69. What about present-day Slovakia? The town I need was in the former Hungary, but now belongs to Slovakia. Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com --- On Tue, 11/9/10, Laszlo (Les) Josa <lesjosa@gmail.com> wrote: From: Laszlo (Les) Josa <lesjosa@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 2:52 PM Nick, back in 2004 I needed my birth certificate to apply for my citizenship. I was already a citizen because I was under 18 when my parents became citizen, but I never got the paper. I could not find my birth certificate so I did two things. I called the Hungarian embassy and they ordered my birth certificate which cost me about 25 dollars. I also called the city hall in Balatonalmadi and asked them for a copy of my birth certificate. I told them I will be sending a relative to pick it up. They charged him 30 dollars and he mailed it to me. The one I ordered from the embassy arrived about 3 weeks after my call to them. Here is a webpage for the embassy. http://www.huembwas.org/Consul/ENG/classical_cases/get_certificates/Certific ates.htm Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:44 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for others who aren't sure either. I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I include money with the request? If so, how much? Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and put on my website to further help others. I appreciate any help! Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com ? ? ? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 16:40:55 -0500 From: Irving Schlinger <sch9sur@frontiernet.net> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates To: hungary@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4CD9BFE7.9020404@frontiernet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 11/9/2010 2:44 PM, Nick M. Gombash wrote: > I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for others who aren't sure either. > I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I include money with the request? If so, how much? > Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and put on my website to further help others. > I appreciate any help! > Nick M. Gombash > > nickmgombash@yahoo.com > > www.hungaryexchange.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Nick, Les is right as far as it goes in modern Hungary. All of my research in 19th century Hungary ( mostly in semi rural Bihor Megye }, now Romania, has turned up ledgers, registers and logs of these events but no separate certificates. Apparently, back then the regular practice was just to enter births, marriages, and deaths in the public or church records, but not to issue a separate certificate. It is very possible that this may still be general practice there, and that a separate certificate is made up and issued for a fee only upon request. This may be why Les didn't have one. Incidentally, most older record books were kept in Latin, as were 18th and early 19th century census. Irv Schlinger ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 16:46:50 -0500 From: "vagyokjim" <vagyokjim@triton.net> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <C391432CF6BC42ECAD133B2F86DF5F92@home77543836bc> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original hi Nick, If noone can help I have written to the Slovak Archives and got a reply for 2-3 more generations than I had for my family in (now) Ruska, Slovak Republic. I wrote to them.. I have the address... with what I wanted... they replied back with the fact they had the info, and quoted a price... about $35 (US) all in english. I sent them an International Money Order (only cost about $1.00 plus the amount due), and in a couple weeks they sent back a copy of the records... dates of birth, marriage dates, death dates for the individuals I listed.... I keep thinking I should have asked for more on siblings, etc. My only complaint is they converted all of the first names of my relatives from Magyar to Slovak... I'm sure the records were NOT in Slovak. I cannot remember where I got the address of the Archives in Micholovce....which was the closest. If noone submits more detailed answer I will look through my (very) unorganized files for more assistance. Jim Lakatos ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick M. Gombash" <nickmgombash@yahoo.com> To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:44 PM Subject: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates >I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am >with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, >census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for >others who aren't sure either. > I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary > before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns > in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I > include money with the request? If so, how much? > Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for > the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there > aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and > put on my website to further help others. > I appreciate any help! > Nick M. Gombash > > nickmgombash@yahoo.com > > www.hungaryexchange.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ To contact the HUNGARY list administrator, send an email to HUNGARY-admin@rootsweb.com. 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