anyone researching these names? Locations are Cambria Co., Pennsylvania. Need info on how these names tie together.

Nick, I'd be interested in the newsletter, too. Piroska

Nick, I too would be interested in the newsletter.. Robert Stutsman --- On Thu, 10/21/10, Perllan987@aol.com <Perllan987@aol.com> wrote: From: Perllan987@aol.com <Perllan987@aol.com> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungary Exchange / Hungarian Genealogy To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, October 21, 2010, 3:29 PM Nick: I am interested in your proposed newsletter. Jayne perllan987@aol.com In a message dated 10/20/2010 11:57:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  lesjosa@gmail.com writes: Nick,  add my name to your list. As to the number 2 to start out you might want to  do a quarterly newsletter. If it is popular you can change it to more  frequent newsletter. As to ideas let me think more about it and will email  you. Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From:  hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com]  On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:10  PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY] Hungary Exchange /  Hungarian Genealogy Hi everyone, I had originally sent this to those  that have submitted surnames to my Surname Database and some other friends  and family, but I thought I would send this message to the Hungary list as  well. I'm writing today for two reasons, and I'd love to hear your  feedback. I apologize if this is the second time you're receiving this  email (to those I emailed privately!). 1) I'm interested in creating a  mailing list for my website (Hungary Exchange), to inform everyone possibly  on a monthly base of updates that have been made to the website, including  new information, surnames, databases, etc etc. If you're interested in  this, please let me know and I'll put your name and email address down on  my list. 2) This is the main reason I wanted to send this email out today.  I'm debating on whether or not to create a Hungarian Genealogy  Society. I know you're probably thinking.. isn't there one already? Yes and  no. I've only been able to find two and they are the  Hungarian Genealogical Society of Greater Cleveland and  then the East European Genealogical Society. There is no definite society  devoted strictly to Hungary, and just Hungary (unlike the East  European Genealogical Society which is all of Eastern Europe). I'm  very interested in a semi-monthly or quarterly newsletter and anything else  that others have in mind. Share your ideas and I'd love to hear  what everyone has to say. :) Best Regards,Nick M.  Gombashnickmgombash@yahoo.comwww.hungaryexchange.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the  list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from  the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 10/20/2010 5:10 PM, Nick M. Gombash wrote: > Hi everyone, > I had originally sent this to those that have submitted surnames to my Surname Database and some other friends and family, but I thought I would send this message to the Hungary list as well. I'm writing today for two reasons, and I'd love to hear your feedback. I apologize if this is the second time you're receiving this email (to those I emailed privately!). > 1) I'm interested in creating a mailing list for my website (Hungary Exchange), to inform everyone possibly on a monthly base of updates that have been made to the website, including new information, surnames, databases, etc etc. If you're interested in this, please let me know and I'll put your name and email address down on my list. > 2) This is the main reason I wanted to send this email out today. I'm debating on whether or not to create a Hungarian Genealogy Society. I know you're probably thinking.. isn't there one already? Yes and no. I've only been able to find two and they are the Hungarian Genealogical Society of Greater Cleveland and then the East European Genealogical Society. There is no definite society devoted strictly to Hungary, and just Hungary (unlike the East European Genealogical Society which is all of Eastern Europe). > I'm very interested in a semi-monthly or quarterly newsletter and anything else that others have in mind. Share your ideas and I'd love to hear what everyone has to say. :) > Best Regards,Nick M. Gombashnickmgombash@yahoo.comwww.hungaryexchange.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Nick, Of course it would probably have to be the "Greater Hungarian Genealogy Society" to include all of today's Hungary, as well as parts of Austria, Romania, Slovenia, Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Moldova, and a bit of the Ukraine. Yes, I would be interested in this as early information from some of these sources is extremely difficult to obtain; most especially the data from Transylvania. (Bihar and Satmar). Irv Schlinger

Nick: I am interested in your proposed newsletter. Jayne perllan987@aol.com In a message dated 10/20/2010 11:57:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lesjosa@gmail.com writes: Nick, add my name to your list. As to the number 2 to start out you might want to do a quarterly newsletter. If it is popular you can change it to more frequent newsletter. As to ideas let me think more about it and will email you. Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:10 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY] Hungary Exchange / Hungarian Genealogy Hi everyone, I had originally sent this to those that have submitted surnames to my Surname Database and some other friends and family, but I thought I would send this message to the Hungary list as well. I'm writing today for two reasons, and I'd love to hear your feedback. I apologize if this is the second time you're receiving this email (to those I emailed privately!). 1) I'm interested in creating a mailing list for my website (Hungary Exchange), to inform everyone possibly on a monthly base of updates that have been made to the website, including new information, surnames, databases, etc etc. If you're interested in this, please let me know and I'll put your name and email address down on my list. 2) This is the main reason I wanted to send this email out today. I'm debating on whether or not to create a Hungarian Genealogy Society. I know you're probably thinking.. isn't there one already? Yes and no. I've only been able to find two and they are the Hungarian Genealogical Society of Greater Cleveland and then the East European Genealogical Society. There is no definite society devoted strictly to Hungary, and just Hungary (unlike the East European Genealogical Society which is all of Eastern Europe). I'm very interested in a semi-monthly or quarterly newsletter and anything else that others have in mind. Share your ideas and I'd love to hear what everyone has to say. :) Best Regards,Nick M. Gombashnickmgombash@yahoo.comwww.hungaryexchange.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

All good intentions, Nick, start out with a lot of enthusiasm, lots of energy, but 'sustenance' and 'endurance' requires a lot of work - usually for a life time! :-) Don't see much trouble with your mailing list: you have your contributors, you notify them all about the latest developments and additions; only a (relatively) small additional work on your part. A 'formal' Hungarian Genealogy Society - on the other hand - is a completely different matter. Needs legal work (for incorporation), rules and regulations for members (and non-members alike), financing and financial responsibility requirements, officers with full and/or limited responsibilities, etc., etc. You are talking a serious investment here - not only time but money. An 'informal' newsletter, say about Hungarian Genealogy, can be much simpler, though the scope of the project (the old Kingdom of Hungary, as most of us would perceive it), requires a widespread knowledge of the regions, counties and local places and their populations, to be interesting for all. As long as you can get contributors to share their interest and research results, I would say it can be sustained. But if you have to depend on yourself mainly, it's a 'tall order'! ;-) And here let me tell you all about the 'Transylvania' project: two of us contributed from the USA; but the total came out to be about $2600, which they hope will provide for two cameras with all necessary supporting equipment as well. For 'our' contributions we can receive free CD's and DVD's of copies of records of places of our own choosing. I can not list all the places here whose records they have, but if anybody would be interested in certain places, E-mail me privately and I will let you know if they have it, and whether they will 'fit' into our free selection. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@verizon.net Nick M. Gombash wrote: >Hi everyone, >I had originally sent this to those that have submitted surnames to my Surname Database and some other friends and family, but I thought I would send this message to the Hungary list as well. I'm writing today for two reasons, and I'd love to hear your feedback. I apologize if this is the second time you're receiving this email (to those I emailed privately!). >1) I'm interested in creating a mailing list for my website (Hungary Exchange), to inform everyone possibly on a monthly base of updates that have been made to the website, including new information, surnames, databases, etc etc. If you're interested in this, please let me know and I'll put your name and email address down on my list. >2) This is the main reason I wanted to send this email out today. I'm debating on whether or not to create a Hungarian Genealogy Society. I know you're probably thinking.. isn't there one already? Yes and no. I've only been able to find two and they are the Hungarian Genealogical Society of Greater Cleveland and then the East European Genealogical Society. There is no definite society devoted strictly to Hungary, and just Hungary (unlike the East European Genealogical Society which is all of Eastern Europe). >I'm very interested in a semi-monthly or quarterly newsletter and anything else that others have in mind. Share your ideas and I'd love to hear what everyone has to say. :) >Best Regards,Nick M. Gombashnickmgombash@yahoo.comwww.hungaryexchange.com >

Hi Tim, I tried to send you some info, but it came back. I was posting to your e-mail. Have a look at Family Search , they have a 1905 NY census of the Kotsay family. It is Stephen age 44 a fireman in US 17 yrs & Katherine age 38, in US 16 yrs son Steve age 18 looks like a chauffeur ; John 16 born US ; Mike 9 ; Pete 9 = twins?? Margaret 4 & Alice 3 . Found on census page 23 ; Peekskill Village ; Caitlin co NY . Taken June 1, 1905 . I found this along with some other info just by putting in your surname .Here it is spelled Kotsey . Have a look @ http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#surname=kotsay&searchT ype=partial&placeId=22&givenName=stephen&alivePlaceLoc1=New%20York%2C%20Unit ed%20States&p=recordResults Okay the 1st & 2nd are yours . The third one is your gr dad visiting old country in 1898 . This leads you to the Ellis island site if you don't have a pass word you can make one & you will see the passenger list. on the passenger list , he is a fireman as well !! Did you know he went back for a visit? Note the spelling differences. Also it says he has his 1st papers.. this is something you want. Julie B. in NC -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Timothy Kotsay Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:34 PM To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Timothy Kotsay Subject: [HUNGARY] Help finding information I am posting this again, with the hope that someone on this list can help me find the information about my great grandparents. My great grand parents Stephen and Katherine Kotsay immigrated in 1888 from Hungary to Tomhicken (near Hazelton) PA where Stephen found work in a coal mine. (Was he recruited in Hungary?) I'd appreciate your help of where I can obtain death certificates of several of their children who died there, as well as the name of the mine, and who to contact to find out about my great grandfather's employment. I am also interested in stories, books, etc of Hungarians who settled in PA to work the coal mines. Thus far, I have not found this information at ancestry.com, nor have I found records of their arrival at Castle Garden. Best regards, Tim Kotsay ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Les! :) Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com --- On Wed, 10/20/10, Laszlo (Les) Josa <lesjosa@gmail.com> wrote: From: Laszlo (Les) Josa <lesjosa@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungary Exchange / Hungarian Genealogy To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 10:55 PM Nick, add my name to your list. As to the number 2 to start out you might want to do a quarterly newsletter. If it is popular you can change it to more frequent newsletter. As to ideas let me think more about it and will email you. Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:10 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY] Hungary Exchange / Hungarian Genealogy Hi everyone, I had originally sent this to those that have submitted surnames to my Surname Database and some other friends and family, but I thought I would send this message to the Hungary list as well. I'm writing today for two reasons, and I'd love to hear your feedback. I apologize if this is the second time you're receiving this email (to those I emailed privately!). 1) I'm interested in creating a mailing list for my website (Hungary Exchange), to inform everyone possibly on a monthly base of updates that have been made to the website, including new information, surnames, databases, etc etc. If you're interested in this, please let me know and I'll put your name and email address down on my list. 2) This is the main reason I wanted to send this email out today. I'm debating on whether or not to create a Hungarian Genealogy Society. I know you're probably thinking.. isn't there one already? Yes and no. I've only been able to find two and they are the Hungarian Genealogical Society of Greater Cleveland and then the East European Genealogical Society. There is no definite society devoted strictly to Hungary, and just Hungary (unlike the East European Genealogical Society which is all of Eastern Europe). I'm very interested in a semi-monthly or quarterly newsletter and anything else that others have in mind. Share your ideas and I'd love to hear what everyone has to say. :) Best Regards,Nick M. Gombashnickmgombash@yahoo.comwww.hungaryexchange.com       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nick, add my name to your list. As to the number 2 to start out you might want to do a quarterly newsletter. If it is popular you can change it to more frequent newsletter. As to ideas let me think more about it and will email you. Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:10 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY] Hungary Exchange / Hungarian Genealogy Hi everyone, I had originally sent this to those that have submitted surnames to my Surname Database and some other friends and family, but I thought I would send this message to the Hungary list as well. I'm writing today for two reasons, and I'd love to hear your feedback. I apologize if this is the second time you're receiving this email (to those I emailed privately!). 1) I'm interested in creating a mailing list for my website (Hungary Exchange), to inform everyone possibly on a monthly base of updates that have been made to the website, including new information, surnames, databases, etc etc. If you're interested in this, please let me know and I'll put your name and email address down on my list. 2) This is the main reason I wanted to send this email out today. I'm debating on whether or not to create a Hungarian Genealogy Society. I know you're probably thinking.. isn't there one already? Yes and no. I've only been able to find two and they are the Hungarian Genealogical Society of Greater Cleveland and then the East European Genealogical Society. There is no definite society devoted strictly to Hungary, and just Hungary (unlike the East European Genealogical Society which is all of Eastern Europe). I'm very interested in a semi-monthly or quarterly newsletter and anything else that others have in mind. Share your ideas and I'd love to hear what everyone has to say. :) Best Regards,Nick M. Gombashnickmgombash@yahoo.comwww.hungaryexchange.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am posting this again, with the hope that someone on this list can help me find the information about my great grandparents. My great grand parents Stephen and Katherine Kotsay immigrated in 1888 from Hungary to Tomhicken (near Hazelton) PA where Stephen found work in a coal mine. (Was he recruited in Hungary?) I'd appreciate your help of where I can obtain death certificates of several of their children who died there, as well as the name of the mine, and who to contact to find out about my great grandfather's employment. I am also interested in stories, books, etc of Hungarians who settled in PA to work the coal mines. Thus far, I have not found this information at ancestry.com, nor have I found records of their arrival at Castle Garden. Best regards, Tim Kotsay

Definitely count me in! cheryl BALOG wenberg -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick M. Gombash" <nickmgombash@yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:10 PM To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] Hungary Exchange / Hungarian Genealogy > Hi everyone, > I had originally sent this to those that have submitted surnames to my > Surname Database and some other friends and family, but I thought I would > send this message to the Hungary list as well. I'm writing today for two > reasons, and I'd love to hear your feedback. I apologize if this is the > second time you're receiving this email (to those I emailed privately!). > 1) I'm interested in creating a mailing list for my website (Hungary > Exchange), to inform everyone possibly on a monthly base of updates that > have been made to the website, including new information, surnames, > databases, etc etc. If you're interested in this, please let me know and > I'll put your name and email address down on my list. > 2) This is the main reason I wanted to send this email out today. I'm > debating on whether or not to create a Hungarian Genealogy Society. I know > you're probably thinking.. isn't there one already? Yes and no. I've only > been able to find two and they are the Hungarian Genealogical Society of > Greater Cleveland and then the East European Genealogical Society. There > is no definite society devoted strictly to Hungary, and just Hungary > (unlike the East European Genealogical Society which is all of Eastern > Europe). > I'm very interested in a semi-monthly or quarterly newsletter and anything > else that others have in mind. Share your ideas and I'd love to hear what > everyone has to say. :) > Best Regards,Nick M. Gombashnickmgombash@yahoo.comwww.hungaryexchange.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi everyone, I had originally sent this to those that have submitted surnames to my Surname Database and some other friends and family, but I thought I would send this message to the Hungary list as well. I'm writing today for two reasons, and I'd love to hear your feedback. I apologize if this is the second time you're receiving this email (to those I emailed privately!). 1) I'm interested in creating a mailing list for my website (Hungary Exchange), to inform everyone possibly on a monthly base of updates that have been made to the website, including new information, surnames, databases, etc etc. If you're interested in this, please let me know and I'll put your name and email address down on my list. 2) This is the main reason I wanted to send this email out today. I'm debating on whether or not to create a Hungarian Genealogy Society. I know you're probably thinking.. isn't there one already? Yes and no. I've only been able to find two and they are the Hungarian Genealogical Society of Greater Cleveland and then the East European Genealogical Society. There is no definite society devoted strictly to Hungary, and just Hungary (unlike the East European Genealogical Society which is all of Eastern Europe). I'm very interested in a semi-monthly or quarterly newsletter and anything else that others have in mind. Share your ideas and I'd love to hear what everyone has to say. :) Best Regards,Nick M. Gombashnickmgombash@yahoo.comwww.hungaryexchange.com

Sorry I forgot to delete all that junk in my previous post. FYI if you would like to make Palacsinta. Laszlo (Les) Josa Lori Derenick's Palacsinta (Hungarian Crepes) - Scranton Times-Tribune [20th October, 2010] Scranton Times-TribuneLori Derenick's Palacsinta (Hungarian Crepes)Scranton Times-TribuneLori Derenick has Hungarian, Polish and Italian blood, and they're all reflected in her cooking. ... --------------------------------------------------------------- http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGpQVnlm2giOvz9kaIlezpZSG EaFA&url=http://thetimes-tribune.com/lifestyles-people/lori-derenick-s-palac sinta-hungarian-crepes-1.1051039 ********************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

-----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@hungaria.org [mailto:hungary-bounces@hungaria.org] On Behalf Of hungary-request@hungaria.org Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:00 AM To: hungary@hungaria.org Subject: Hungary Digest, Vol 5, Issue 17 Send Hungary mailing list submissions to hungary@hungaria.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.hungaria.org/mailman/listinfo/hungary or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to hungary-request@hungaria.org You can reach the person managing the list at hungary-owner@hungaria.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Hungary digest..." Today's Topics: 1. News *** 20th October, 2010 *** (HAL Hungary List) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FYI if you would like to make Palacsinta. Laszlo (Les) Josa Lori Derenick's Palacsinta (Hungarian Crepes) - Scranton Times-Tribune [20th October, 2010] Scranton Times-TribuneLori Derenick's Palacsinta (Hungarian Crepes)Scranton Times-TribuneLori Derenick has Hungarian, Polish and Italian blood, and they're all reflected in her cooking. ... --------------------------------------------------------------- http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGpQVnlm2giOvz9kaIlezpZSG EaFA&url=http://thetimes-tribune.com/lifestyles-people/lori-derenick-s-palac sinta-hungarian-crepes-1.1051039 **********************

You're very welcome, Judy!   :) Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com --- On Tue, 10/19/10, Judy <llamabase@dejazzd.com> wrote: From: Judy <llamabase@dejazzd.com> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 4:36 AM Thank you Nick! -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 9:33 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 That's correct, but his surname isn't Eszterhazy. It's von Anhalt. Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com --- On Mon, 10/18/10, Judy <llamabase@dejazzd.com> wrote: From: Judy <llamabase@dejazzd.com> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 7:09 PM If I'm remembering correctly, Zsa Zsa Gabor is married to a man who has a title via being adopted by someone. The name Eszterhazy sticks in my mind as his last name. Am I hallucinating here? -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:28 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 I wonder if that was even legal in Hungarian law.. very interesting. I'm curious which Eszterházy she was.. I'll have to do some digging around. :) Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com --- On Mon, 10/18/10, marlo <marlo50@bex.net> wrote: From: marlo <marlo50@bex.net> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 5:15 PM Cheryl,  Don't you wonder if any one took her up on it?  Did some rich American buy her title?   Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Wenberg" <cherlock@cheqnet.net> To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:44 PM Subject: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 > > The Washington Times   (Washington D.C.)   July 9, 1905 > > Countess ESTERHAZY Would Sell Her Title For Cash > > Member of Noble Hungarian Family Needs $100,000 - Is living In Poverty In > Small Hotel In Paris > > Paris - Should young Rockefeller or any other young American millionaire > want to become the bearer > of the title and name of one of the oldest and bluest-blooded families of > Europe, there is a chance > for him now in this city to acquire it for the modest sum of $100,000. > > Countess ESTERHAZY, of the noble Hungarian family of that name, is willing > to bestow the title upon > any young man willing to pay her price. > > She is at present living in the utmost poverty in a small hotel in a side > street in this city.  Here she > told a newspaper reporter the sad story of her life a few days ago, and > with tears in her eyes > explained how much it had cost her to decide to make this sacrifice. > > "My grandfather," she said, "was a marshal of the court of Poland and a > cousin to King Stanislaus. > Originally my family belonged to Hungary and my father held exalted rank. > In campaigns in which he > took part he had no fewer than six horses killed under him. > > "My mother, although a French woman, was descended from an Irish family, > named O'Toole, her > father being one of the 500 who accompanied Marie Stuart from France to > Scotland.  I was born > titled and rich, but today, because of my marriage to a spendthrift of a > Frenchman, I am penniless. > > "After three years of married misery I got a divorce.  I have nothing but > my good name and my title. > If there should be in America a family desirous of a title for their son, > I am willing to sell mine. > > "I invite investigation, for my title is an ancient and honorable one.  I > will part with it on $100,000 > being deposited in my name.  During my lifetime I shall be at liberty to > dispose of the interest and at > my death the young man who bears the title will inherit the principal." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Thank you Nick! -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 9:33 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 That's correct, but his surname isn't Eszterhazy. It's von Anhalt. Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com --- On Mon, 10/18/10, Judy <llamabase@dejazzd.com> wrote: From: Judy <llamabase@dejazzd.com> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 7:09 PM If I'm remembering correctly, Zsa Zsa Gabor is married to a man who has a title via being adopted by someone. The name Eszterhazy sticks in my mind as his last name. Am I hallucinating here? -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:28 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 I wonder if that was even legal in Hungarian law.. very interesting. I'm curious which Eszterházy she was.. I'll have to do some digging around. :) Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com --- On Mon, 10/18/10, marlo <marlo50@bex.net> wrote: From: marlo <marlo50@bex.net> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 5:15 PM Cheryl,  Don't you wonder if any one took her up on it?  Did some rich American buy her title?   Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Wenberg" <cherlock@cheqnet.net> To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:44 PM Subject: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 > > The Washington Times   (Washington D.C.)   July 9, 1905 > > Countess ESTERHAZY Would Sell Her Title For Cash > > Member of Noble Hungarian Family Needs $100,000 - Is living In Poverty In > Small Hotel In Paris > > Paris - Should young Rockefeller or any other young American millionaire > want to become the bearer > of the title and name of one of the oldest and bluest-blooded families of > Europe, there is a chance > for him now in this city to acquire it for the modest sum of $100,000. > > Countess ESTERHAZY, of the noble Hungarian family of that name, is willing > to bestow the title upon > any young man willing to pay her price. > > She is at present living in the utmost poverty in a small hotel in a side > street in this city.  Here she > told a newspaper reporter the sad story of her life a few days ago, and > with tears in her eyes > explained how much it had cost her to decide to make this sacrifice. > > "My grandfather," she said, "was a marshal of the court of Poland and a > cousin to King Stanislaus. > Originally my family belonged to Hungary and my father held exalted rank. > In campaigns in which he > took part he had no fewer than six horses killed under him. > > "My mother, although a French woman, was descended from an Irish family, > named O'Toole, her > father being one of the 500 who accompanied Marie Stuart from France to > Scotland.  I was born > titled and rich, but today, because of my marriage to a spendthrift of a > Frenchman, I am penniless. > > "After three years of married misery I got a divorce.  I have nothing but > my good name and my title. > If there should be in America a family desirous of a title for their son, > I am willing to sell mine. > > "I invite investigation, for my title is an ancient and honorable one.  I > will part with it on $100,000 > being deposited in my name.  During my lifetime I shall be at liberty to > dispose of the interest and at > my death the young man who bears the title will inherit the principal." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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A very interesting article. At one point when I found someone who had the surname living in America of Semsey I wrote to her and inquired about it. She told me that her surname was purchased at one time by an ancestor and that she was Jewish. The original line of Semsey was not Jewish. Sharon Dickson-Engelman

I've been checking too.............not coming up with anything so far. cheryl -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick M. Gombash" <nickmgombash@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:28 PM To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 > I wonder if that was even legal in Hungarian law.. very interesting. I'm > curious which Eszterházy she was.. I'll have to do some digging around. :) > > Nick M. Gombash > > nickmgombash@yahoo.com > > www.hungaryexchange.com > > --- On Mon, 10/18/10, marlo <marlo50@bex.net> wrote: > > From: marlo <marlo50@bex.net> > Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 > To: hungary@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 5:15 PM > > Cheryl, Don't you wonder if any one took her up on it? Did some rich > American buy her title? Margaret > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cheryl Wenberg" <cherlock@cheqnet.net> > To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:44 PM > Subject: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 > > >> >> The Washington Times (Washington D.C.) July 9, 1905 >> >> Countess ESTERHAZY Would Sell Her Title For Cash >> >> Member of Noble Hungarian Family Needs $100,000 - Is living In Poverty In >> Small Hotel In Paris >> >> Paris - Should young Rockefeller or any other young American millionaire >> want to become the bearer >> of the title and name of one of the oldest and bluest-blooded families of >> Europe, there is a chance >> for him now in this city to acquire it for the modest sum of $100,000. >> >> Countess ESTERHAZY, of the noble Hungarian family of that name, is >> willing >> to bestow the title upon >> any young man willing to pay her price. >> >> She is at present living in the utmost poverty in a small hotel in a side >> street in this city. Here she >> told a newspaper reporter the sad story of her life a few days ago, and >> with tears in her eyes >> explained how much it had cost her to decide to make this sacrifice. >> >> "My grandfather," she said, "was a marshal of the court of Poland and a >> cousin to King Stanislaus. >> Originally my family belonged to Hungary and my father held exalted rank. >> In campaigns in which he >> took part he had no fewer than six horses killed under him. >> >> "My mother, although a French woman, was descended from an Irish family, >> named O'Toole, her >> father being one of the 500 who accompanied Marie Stuart from France to >> Scotland. I was born >> titled and rich, but today, because of my marriage to a spendthrift of a >> Frenchman, I am penniless. >> >> "After three years of married misery I got a divorce. I have nothing but >> my good name and my title. >> If there should be in America a family desirous of a title for their son, >> I am willing to sell mine. >> >> "I invite investigation, for my title is an ancient and honorable one. I >> will part with it on $100,000 >> being deposited in my name. During my lifetime I shall be at liberty to >> dispose of the interest and at >> my death the young man who bears the title will inherit the principal." >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.448 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3204 - Release Date: 10/18/10 > 06:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

If I'm remembering correctly, Zsa Zsa Gabor is married to a man who has a title via being adopted by someone. The name Eszterhazy sticks in my mind as his last name. Am I hallucinating here? -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:28 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 I wonder if that was even legal in Hungarian law.. very interesting. I'm curious which Eszterházy she was.. I'll have to do some digging around. :) Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com --- On Mon, 10/18/10, marlo <marlo50@bex.net> wrote: From: marlo <marlo50@bex.net> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 5:15 PM Cheryl,  Don't you wonder if any one took her up on it?  Did some rich American buy her title?   Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Wenberg" <cherlock@cheqnet.net> To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:44 PM Subject: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 > > The Washington Times   (Washington D.C.)   July 9, 1905 > > Countess ESTERHAZY Would Sell Her Title For Cash > > Member of Noble Hungarian Family Needs $100,000 - Is living In Poverty In > Small Hotel In Paris > > Paris - Should young Rockefeller or any other young American millionaire > want to become the bearer > of the title and name of one of the oldest and bluest-blooded families of > Europe, there is a chance > for him now in this city to acquire it for the modest sum of $100,000. > > Countess ESTERHAZY, of the noble Hungarian family of that name, is willing > to bestow the title upon > any young man willing to pay her price. > > She is at present living in the utmost poverty in a small hotel in a side > street in this city.  Here she > told a newspaper reporter the sad story of her life a few days ago, and > with tears in her eyes > explained how much it had cost her to decide to make this sacrifice. > > "My grandfather," she said, "was a marshal of the court of Poland and a > cousin to King Stanislaus. > Originally my family belonged to Hungary and my father held exalted rank. > In campaigns in which he > took part he had no fewer than six horses killed under him. > > "My mother, although a French woman, was descended from an Irish family, > named O'Toole, her > father being one of the 500 who accompanied Marie Stuart from France to > Scotland.  I was born > titled and rich, but today, because of my marriage to a spendthrift of a > Frenchman, I am penniless. > > "After three years of married misery I got a divorce.  I have nothing but > my good name and my title. > If there should be in America a family desirous of a title for their son, > I am willing to sell mine. > > "I invite investigation, for my title is an ancient and honorable one.  I > will part with it on $100,000 > being deposited in my name.  During my lifetime I shall be at liberty to > dispose of the interest and at > my death the young man who bears the title will inherit the principal." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.448 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3204 - Release Date: 10/18/10 06:34:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's correct, but his surname isn't Eszterhazy. It's von Anhalt. Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com --- On Mon, 10/18/10, Judy <llamabase@dejazzd.com> wrote: From: Judy <llamabase@dejazzd.com> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 7:09 PM If I'm remembering correctly, Zsa Zsa Gabor is married to a man who has a title via being adopted by someone. The name Eszterhazy sticks in my mind as his last name. Am I hallucinating here? -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:28 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 I wonder if that was even legal in Hungarian law.. very interesting. I'm curious which Eszterházy she was.. I'll have to do some digging around. :) Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com --- On Mon, 10/18/10, marlo <marlo50@bex.net> wrote: From: marlo <marlo50@bex.net> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 5:15 PM Cheryl,  Don't you wonder if any one took her up on it?  Did some rich American buy her title?   Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Wenberg" <cherlock@cheqnet.net> To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:44 PM Subject: [HUNGARY] Hungarian Title For Sale 1905 > > The Washington Times   (Washington D.C.)   July 9, 1905 > > Countess ESTERHAZY Would Sell Her Title For Cash > > Member of Noble Hungarian Family Needs $100,000 - Is living In Poverty In > Small Hotel In Paris > > Paris - Should young Rockefeller or any other young American millionaire > want to become the bearer > of the title and name of one of the oldest and bluest-blooded families of > Europe, there is a chance > for him now in this city to acquire it for the modest sum of $100,000. > > Countess ESTERHAZY, of the noble Hungarian family of that name, is willing > to bestow the title upon > any young man willing to pay her price. > > She is at present living in the utmost poverty in a small hotel in a side > street in this city.  Here she > told a newspaper reporter the sad story of her life a few days ago, and > with tears in her eyes > explained how much it had cost her to decide to make this sacrifice. > > "My grandfather," she said, "was a marshal of the court of Poland and a > cousin to King Stanislaus. > Originally my family belonged to Hungary and my father held exalted rank. > In campaigns in which he > took part he had no fewer than six horses killed under him. > > "My mother, although a French woman, was descended from an Irish family, > named O'Toole, her > father being one of the 500 who accompanied Marie Stuart from France to > Scotland.  I was born > titled and rich, but today, because of my marriage to a spendthrift of a > Frenchman, I am penniless. > > "After three years of married misery I got a divorce.  I have nothing but > my good name and my title. > If there should be in America a family desirous of a title for their son, > I am willing to sell mine. > > "I invite investigation, for my title is an ancient and honorable one.  I > will part with it on $100,000 > being deposited in my name.  During my lifetime I shall be at liberty to > dispose of the interest and at > my death the young man who bears the title will inherit the principal." > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.448 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3204 - Release Date: 10/18/10 06:34:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message