Thank you for the very good information, Joe. Probably it would be necessary to know what religious denomination records are being looked for. Mine are definitely from Zemplen Megye. Margaret Paull, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph J Jarfas" <jjarfas@verizon.net> To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Tarkany And Tes Microfilms Actually, Margaret, there were six Tárkány's in Hungary back then: Felsőtárkány, Kistárkány, Körörstárkány, Mezőtárkány, Nagytárkány and Tárkányka. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@verizon.net Margaret & Michael Paull wrote: >Nagy Tarkany for Roman Catholic Church Records was in Zemplen Megye. It is >no longer part of Hungary to my knowledge. There is also a Kis Tarkany. > >Grandfather Muszka Mihaly was born and baptized in Damoc, Zemplen Megye but >the Roman Catholic Church was in Nagy Tarkany. > >Margaret Paull, New Jersey > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Actually, Margaret, there were six Tárkány's in Hungary back then: Felsőtárkány, Kistárkány, Körörstárkány, Mezőtárkány, Nagytárkány and Tárkányka. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@verizon.net Margaret & Michael Paull wrote: >Nagy Tarkany for Roman Catholic Church Records was in Zemplen Megye. It is >no longer part of Hungary to my knowledge. There is also a Kis Tarkany. > >Grandfather Muszka Mihaly was born and baptized in Damoc, Zemplen Megye but >the Roman Catholic Church was in Nagy Tarkany. > >Margaret Paull, New Jersey >

Nagy Tarkany for Roman Catholic Church Records was in Zemplen Megye. It is no longer part of Hungary to my knowledge. There is also a Kis Tarkany. Grandfather Muszka Mihaly was born and baptized in Damoc, Zemplen Megye but the Roman Catholic Church was in Nagy Tarkany. Margaret Paull, New Jersey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph J Jarfas" <jjarfas@verizon.net> To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Tarkany And Tes Microfilms Well, Richard, if nobody responded it means you have to turn to LDS: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitysearch&columns=*,0,0 - to find those films, because they have them. Tárkány was indeed in county Komárom (district Gesztes), but Tés was/is in county Veszprém, district Zirc (and LDS list it as Teés). Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@verizon.net Richard Spacer wrote: >Recently I asked if anyone has microfilms of births and marriages of >Tarkany and >Tes for the 1800's. > >I believe this was Komarom county. > >Thank you. > >Richard Spacer > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, Richard, if nobody responded it means you have to turn to LDS: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitysearch&columns=*,0,0 - to find those films, because they have them. Tárkány was indeed in county Komárom (district Gesztes), but Tés was/is in county Veszprém, district Zirc (and LDS list it as Teés). Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@verizon.net Richard Spacer wrote: >Recently I asked if anyone has microfilms of births and marriages of Tarkany and >Tes for the 1800's. > >I believe this was Komarom county. > >Thank you. > >Richard Spacer > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Recently I asked if anyone has microfilms of births and marriages of Tarkany and Tes for the 1800's. I believe this was Komarom county. Thank you. Richard Spacer

"My maiden name is Veronika Friedman, I was born in Tarcal and that's where I went to school. My father had a sister, Cecilia Friedman, but they lived in Tarcal. I think there were three different Friedman families in Tarcal before the war. Now I live in London, England. I would like very much [incomplete sentence] My father's name was Mor Friedman. He had a grocery store at the corner of the Keresztury street, his father's name was Majer Friedman and as far as I know Majer's father was Sloime Zalman Friedman. If someone could tell me who were Sloime Zalman's father and mother or could give any other information about my great-grandparents, I would be very very grateful. My email address is paveanyu@Gmail.com." -----Original Message----- From: Thressa Paplanus Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:50 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY] Translation help, please I received the following from Radix forum. Can someone please translate it for me? I tried Google translate but couldn't make any usable meaning from it. Thanks for any help. Az en lanykori nevem Friedman Veronika En Tarcalon Szulettem es ott mentem iskolaba Az apukamnak volt egy lany testvare aki Cecilia Friedman volt de ok Tarcalon Laktak Azt hiszem harom kulonbozo Friedman csalad lakott tarcalon a haboru eloot En most Londonban Angliaban lakom. Nagyon szeretnem Apukam Neve volt Friedman Mor.volt egyFuszeruzlete a Keresztury ut sarkam az o apja neve volt Majer Friedman es ugy tudom hogy a Majer apjanak a neve volt Sloime Zalman Friedman Ha valaki tudna nekem segiteni ki volt a Sloime Zalman apja es anyja nagyon nagyon megkoszonnem vagy pedig barmilyen mas adatokat a dede szuleimrol E-mail cimem paveanyu@Gmail.com Thressa "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb." Benjamin Franklin Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction. No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This past Saturday night the Hungarian American Cultural Association (HACA) of Houston had the film Torn from the Flag shown to about 50 people. It was a very moving film about the Hungarian October 1956 revolt. I will not bore you with my details about the film but I am attaching the website for the film reviews. http://www.tornfromtheflag.com/Press-Reviews.html I just ordered the DVD so I can see it again. Laszlo (Les) Josa

Margaret, sorry I misunderstood. You are correct times have changed. Today money talks. In my case I had a relative from Budapest pick up my birth certificate. His name is same as mine (Laszlo Josa) so that helped me. We are close in age, he was born in 45 and I was born in 44. Same month but he was 2 days before mine. Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marlo Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:09 AM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates Les, I did not say the Embassy had the records. I said they obtained them for me. Back in those days they did such things. That's why they told me to contact my cousin for other records. All I know is I have those records and they did not charge me for them. Times have changed and so have people. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laszlo (Les) Josa" <lesjosa@gmail.com> To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates > The embassy does not have records. They obtain them from the city hall in > the town where the person was born. > > Laszlo (Les) Josa > > -----Original Message----- > From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of EEH2198@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 7:02 PM > To: hungary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates > > Does the embassy have birth certificates on all people > who came to the US? > > Evelyn > > > In a message dated 11/9/2010 6:31:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > lesjosa@gmail.com writes: > > http://www.huembwas.org/Consul/ENG/classical_cases/get_certificates/Certific > ates.htm > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Les, I did not say the Embassy had the records. I said they obtained them for me. Back in those days they did such things. That's why they told me to contact my cousin for other records. All I know is I have those records and they did not charge me for them. Times have changed and so have people. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laszlo (Les) Josa" <lesjosa@gmail.com> To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates > The embassy does not have records. They obtain them from the city hall in > the town where the person was born. > > Laszlo (Les) Josa > > -----Original Message----- > From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of EEH2198@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 7:02 PM > To: hungary@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates > > Does the embassy have birth certificates on all people > who came to the US? > > Evelyn > > > In a message dated 11/9/2010 6:31:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > lesjosa@gmail.com writes: > > http://www.huembwas.org/Consul/ENG/classical_cases/get_certificates/Certific > ates.htm > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Laci, and all those who helped. I actually managed to find the managing real estate office and talked to a nice guy; he told me old records are not to be found (the building changed owners more than half a dozen times in the '70s), but called up one of the old time tenants and shared his phone # with me. I just could not reach this fellow yet. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@verizon.net Laszlo (Les) Josa wrote: >Joe, try these webpages > >http://nycprop.nyc.gov/nycproperty/nynav/jsp/stmtassesslst.jsp > >http://www.assessorsoffice.net/countyappraisal.asp?state=New%20York&county=B >ronx > >http://webapps.nyc.gov:8084/CICS/fin1/find001I > >Laszlo (Les) Josa >

Local registrars, Nick, are authorized to issue 'certified' civil records to those requesting them, provided they are entitled to them. Nobody else can get them. Churches are also authorized to issue certified church records - but all this has to be paid for - usually with 'document' stamps, which can be purchased at local post offices. And just like everything else, the prices go up from time to time (as far as I know they don't accept cash ... but churches usually take 'donations'). The 'normal' way to handle such requests from abroad is through the Embassy. I have not looked at their charges lately, but if they jacked up the price it is their 'right', which is also one way to increase the flow of foreign currency into the treasury! :-( The government actually established an 'online' document handling web site, but you have to register to use it (all in Hungarian of course: https://ugyfelkapu.magyarorszag.hu/); but, to be able to register, you have to show up in any document office in Hungary to prove your identity! :-) Needless to say this is mainly for use for citizens living in Hungary, but I can imagine anybody can register if, while visiting the country also visit a document office (I was there in September and did not think of it). Information on how to obtain certified documents will be found on each country's embassy web site, usually under consular affairs. Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@verizon.net Nick M. Gombash wrote: >I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for others who aren't sure either. >I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I include money with the request? If so, how much? >Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and put on my website to further help others. >I appreciate any help! >Nick M. Gombash > >nickmgombash@yahoo.com > >www.hungaryexchange.com >

The embassy does not have records. They obtain them from the city hall in the town where the person was born. Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of EEH2198@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 7:02 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates Does the embassy have birth certificates on all people who came to the US? Evelyn In a message dated 11/9/2010 6:31:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lesjosa@gmail.com writes: http://www.huembwas.org/Consul/ENG/classical_cases/get_certificates/Certific ates.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joe, try these webpages http://nycprop.nyc.gov/nycproperty/nynav/jsp/stmtassesslst.jsp http://www.assessorsoffice.net/countyappraisal.asp?state=New%20York&county=B ronx http://webapps.nyc.gov:8084/CICS/fin1/find001I Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joseph J Jarfas Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 2:23 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY] Real estate agent ... Hi all, any of you works in or knows somebody in the real estate business? Trying to find out who owns (or owned) the apartment building at 2440 Bronx Park East, in the Bronx, NY. Called two tenants and neither knew - not even the super!? Got a request to find a couple who lived there back in the 1960's, but could not even get surname for them!? We only know they were called Rubin and Klara. Talking about brick walls ... Joe Equinunk, PA - USA jjarfas@verizon.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does the embassy have birth certificates on all people who came to the US? Evelyn In a message dated 11/9/2010 6:31:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lesjosa@gmail.com writes: http://www.huembwas.org/Consul/ENG/classical_cases/get_certificates/Certific ates.htm

--- On Tue, 11/9/10, magda <mag_ton@yahoo.com> wrote: From: magda <mag_ton@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: HUNGARY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 356 To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 8:39 PM The embassy charges $ 69.00 to get a certificate now . Still pondering on whether to wait for more microfilms of post -1900 records  ....................magda --- On Tue, 11/9/10, hungary-request@rootsweb.com <hungary-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: hungary-request@rootsweb.com <hungary-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: HUNGARY Digest, Vol 5, Issue 356 To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 4:46 PM Today's Topics:    1. contact info for reserch in Johnstown PA area (MLPecsi@aol.com)    2. Birth Certificates (Nick M. Gombash)    3. Re: Birth Certificates (Rose Somraty Yarbrough)    4. Translation help, please (Thressa Paplanus)    5. Re: Birth Certificates (Laszlo (Les) Josa)    6. Re: Birth Certificates (Nick M. Gombash)    7. Re: Birth Certificates (Irving Schlinger)    8. Re: Birth Certificates (vagyokjim) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 08:59:11 EST From: MLPecsi@aol.com Subject: [HUNGARY] contact info for reserch in Johnstown PA area To: HUNGARY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <2ecbd.448bc95d.3a0aadaf@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Anybody researching Hungarians in the Johnstown PA area? It was a hub  for Hungarian settlers. Just ran across this in The Tribune-Democrat newspaper web site: Contact Us If you are interested in  researching back issues or if you need a copy of a newspaper more than one year  old, we can refer you to the Cambria County Library Reference Department. For a nominal fee, they will research  births, deaths and marriages and they can reproduce old articles from the  newspaper directly from microfilm. They  can be contacted at 814-536-5131 or at 248 Main Street, Johnstown, PA 15901. _http://www.cclib.lib.pa.us/services_reference.htm_ (http://www.cclib.lib.pa.us/services_reference.htm ) Mailing address The Tribune-Democrat 425  Locust St PO Box 340 Johnstown PA 15907-0340 Marika ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 11:44:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Nick M. Gombash" <nickmgombash@yahoo.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates To: hungary@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <418007.84577.qm@web53907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for others who aren't sure either. I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I include money with the request? If so, how much? Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and put on my website to further help others. I appreciate any help! Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com       ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:03:46 -0600 From: "Rose Somraty Yarbrough" <ryarbrough09@charter.net> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <009b01cb8049$38651e30$a92f5a90$@net> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" Nick: Wow, that was a good question. I've never done that either. I would know how to begin ordering these documents? Rose -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:44 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for others who aren't sure either. I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I include money with the request? If so, how much? Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and put on my website to further help others. I appreciate any help! Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:50:49 -0800 (PST) From: Thressa Paplanus <tpaplanu@swbell.net> Subject: [HUNGARY] Translation help, please To: hungary@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <707784.75719.qm@web81806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I received the following from Radix forum. Can someone please translate it for me? I tried Google translate but couldn't make any usable meaning from it. Thanks for any help. Az en lanykori nevem Friedman Veronika En Tarcalon Szulettem es ott mentem iskolaba Az apukamnak volt egy lany testvare aki Cecilia Friedman volt de ok Tarcalon Laktak Azt hiszem harom kulonbozo Friedman csalad lakott tarcalon a haboru eloot En most Londonban Angliaban lakom. Nagyon szeretnem Apukam Neve volt Friedman Mor.volt egyFuszeruzlete a Keresztury ut sarkam az o apja neve volt Majer Friedman es ugy tudom hogy a Majer apjanak a neve volt Sloime Zalman Friedman Ha valaki tudna nekem segiteni ki volt a Sloime Zalman apja es anyja nagyon nagyon megkoszonnem vagy pedig barmilyen mas adatokat a dede szuleimrol? E-mail cimem paveanyu@Gmail.com Thressa "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb." Benjamin Franklin Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction. No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:52:12 -0600 From: "Laszlo \(Les\) Josa" <lesjosa@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:     <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAFiDtQkzirRLpPGgZcnxc1/CgAAAEAAAAKuZSjn/qfhFn4ryOAPBt7gBAAAAAA==@gmail.com>     Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" Nick, back in 2004 I needed my birth certificate to apply for my citizenship. I was already a citizen because I was under 18 when my parents became citizen, but I never got the paper. I could not find my birth certificate so I did two things. I called the Hungarian embassy and they ordered my birth certificate which cost me about 25 dollars. I also called the city hall in Balatonalmadi and asked them for a copy of my birth certificate. I told them I will be sending a relative to pick it up. They charged him 30 dollars and he mailed it to me. The one I ordered from the embassy arrived about 3 weeks after my call to them. Here is a webpage for the embassy. http://www.huembwas.org/Consul/ENG/classical_cases/get_certificates/Certific ates.htm Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:44 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for others who aren't sure either. I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I include money with the request? If so, how much? Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and put on my website to further help others. I appreciate any help! Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 13:09:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Nick M. Gombash" <nickmgombash@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates To: hungary@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <169957.98217.qm@web53903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thank you for the information, Les. Helpful as always! And wow.. I guess the fee has went up to $69. What about present-day Slovakia? The town I need was in the former Hungary, but now belongs to Slovakia. Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com --- On Tue, 11/9/10, Laszlo (Les) Josa <lesjosa@gmail.com> wrote: From: Laszlo (Les) Josa <lesjosa@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates To: hungary@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 2:52 PM Nick, back in 2004 I needed my birth certificate to apply for my citizenship. I was already a citizen because I was under 18 when my parents became citizen, but I never got the paper. I could not find my birth certificate so I did two things. I called the Hungarian embassy and they ordered my birth certificate which cost me about 25 dollars. I also called the city hall in Balatonalmadi and asked them for a copy of my birth certificate. I told them I will be sending a relative to pick it up. They charged him 30 dollars and he mailed it to me. The one I ordered from the embassy arrived about 3 weeks after my call to them. Here is a webpage for the embassy. http://www.huembwas.org/Consul/ENG/classical_cases/get_certificates/Certific ates.htm Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:44 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for others who aren't sure either. I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I include money with the request? If so, how much? Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and put on my website to further help others. I appreciate any help! Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com ? ? ? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 16:40:55 -0500 From: Irving Schlinger <sch9sur@frontiernet.net> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates To: hungary@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4CD9BFE7.9020404@frontiernet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 11/9/2010 2:44 PM, Nick M. Gombash wrote: > I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for others who aren't sure either. > I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I include money with the request? If so, how much? > Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and put on my website to further help others. > I appreciate any help! > Nick M. Gombash > > nickmgombash@yahoo.com > > www.hungaryexchange.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Nick, Les is right as far as it goes in modern Hungary. All of my research in 19th century Hungary ( mostly in semi rural Bihor Megye }, now Romania, has turned up ledgers, registers and logs of these events but no separate certificates.  Apparently, back then the regular practice was just to enter births, marriages, and deaths in the public or church records, but not to issue a separate certificate.  It is very possible that this may still be general practice there, and that a separate certificate is made up and issued  for a fee only upon request. This may be why Les didn't have one. Incidentally, most older record books were kept in Latin, as were 18th and early 19th century census. Irv Schlinger ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 16:46:50 -0500 From: "vagyokjim" <vagyokjim@triton.net> Subject: Re: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <C391432CF6BC42ECAD133B2F86DF5F92@home77543836bc> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original hi Nick,   If noone can help I have written to the Slovak Archives and got a reply for 2-3 more generations than I had for my family in (now) Ruska, Slovak Republic.  I wrote to them.. I have the address... with what I wanted... they replied back with the fact they had the info, and quoted a price... about $35 (US)  all in english.  I sent them an International Money Order (only cost about $1.00 plus the amount due), and in a couple weeks they sent back a copy of the records... dates of birth, marriage dates, death dates for the individuals I listed.... I keep thinking I should have asked for more on siblings, etc.  My only complaint is they converted all of the first names of my relatives from Magyar to Slovak... I'm sure the records were NOT in Slovak. I cannot remember where I got the address of the Archives in Micholovce....which was the closest.  If noone submits more detailed answer I will look through my (very) unorganized files for more assistance. Jim Lakatos ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick M. Gombash" <nickmgombash@yahoo.com> To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:44 PM Subject: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates >I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am >with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, >census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for >others who aren't sure either. > I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary > before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns > in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I > include money with the request? If so, how much? > Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for > the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there > aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and > put on my website to further help others. > I appreciate any help! > Nick M. Gombash > > nickmgombash@yahoo.com > > www.hungaryexchange.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ To contact the HUNGARY list administrator, send an email to HUNGARY-admin@rootsweb.com. 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hi again, I forgot to mention... I have copies of the blank forms that are needed to contact the Slovak archives... somewhere.... Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick M. Gombash" <nickmgombash@yahoo.com> To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:44 PM Subject: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates >I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am >with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, >census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for >others who aren't sure either. > I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary > before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns > in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I > include money with the request? If so, how much? > Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for > the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there > aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and > put on my website to further help others. > I appreciate any help! > Nick M. Gombash > > nickmgombash@yahoo.com > > www.hungaryexchange.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

hi Nick, If noone can help I have written to the Slovak Archives and got a reply for 2-3 more generations than I had for my family in (now) Ruska, Slovak Republic. I wrote to them.. I have the address... with what I wanted... they replied back with the fact they had the info, and quoted a price... about $35 (US) all in english. I sent them an International Money Order (only cost about $1.00 plus the amount due), and in a couple weeks they sent back a copy of the records... dates of birth, marriage dates, death dates for the individuals I listed.... I keep thinking I should have asked for more on siblings, etc. My only complaint is they converted all of the first names of my relatives from Magyar to Slovak... I'm sure the records were NOT in Slovak. I cannot remember where I got the address of the Archives in Micholovce....which was the closest. If noone submits more detailed answer I will look through my (very) unorganized files for more assistance. Jim Lakatos ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick M. Gombash" <nickmgombash@yahoo.com> To: <hungary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:44 PM Subject: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates >I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am >with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, >census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for >others who aren't sure either. > I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary > before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns > in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I > include money with the request? If so, how much? > Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for > the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there > aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and > put on my website to further help others. > I appreciate any help! > Nick M. Gombash > > nickmgombash@yahoo.com > > www.hungaryexchange.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

On 11/9/2010 2:44 PM, Nick M. Gombash wrote: > I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for others who aren't sure either. > I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I include money with the request? If so, how much? > Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and put on my website to further help others. > I appreciate any help! > Nick M. Gombash > > nickmgombash@yahoo.com > > www.hungaryexchange.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Nick, Les is right as far as it goes in modern Hungary. All of my research in 19th century Hungary ( mostly in semi rural Bihor Megye }, now Romania, has turned up ledgers, registers and logs of these events but no separate certificates. Apparently, back then the regular practice was just to enter births, marriages, and deaths in the public or church records, but not to issue a separate certificate. It is very possible that this may still be general practice there, and that a separate certificate is made up and issued for a fee only upon request. This may be why Les didn't have one. Incidentally, most older record books were kept in Latin, as were 18th and early 19th century census. Irv Schlinger

Nick, back in 2004 I needed my birth certificate to apply for my citizenship. I was already a citizen because I was under 18 when my parents became citizen, but I never got the paper. I could not find my birth certificate so I did two things. I called the Hungarian embassy and they ordered my birth certificate which cost me about 25 dollars. I also called the city hall in Balatonalmadi and asked them for a copy of my birth certificate. I told them I will be sending a relative to pick it up. They charged him 30 dollars and he mailed it to me. The one I ordered from the embassy arrived about 3 weeks after my call to them. Here is a webpage for the embassy. http://www.huembwas.org/Consul/ENG/classical_cases/get_certificates/Certific ates.htm Laszlo (Les) Josa -----Original Message----- From: hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hungary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick M. Gombash Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:44 PM To: hungary@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNGARY] Birth Certificates I know this is going to be a silly question, seeing how experienced I am with Hungarian genealogy. My experience mostly covers church records, census and taxation. I figured this would be a good topic to discuss for others who aren't sure either. I've never ordered a copy of a birth record/certificate from Hungary before. Does anyone know the proper procedure of how to write to the towns in Hungary and Slovakia to get a copy of the needed records? Should I include money with the request? If so, how much? Are there forms online where we could just fill in the names and dates for the individual records that we need.. then write/type it out? If there aren't any known out there, I'd love help from others to create some and put on my website to further help others. I appreciate any help! Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here you go, Richard. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/HUNGARY Nick M. Gombash nickmgombash@yahoo.com www.hungaryexchange.com --- On Tue, 11/9/10, Richard Spacer <rspacer@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Richard Spacer <rspacer@yahoo.com> Subject: [HUNGARY] Archives To: HUNGARY@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 3:53 PM How do I view all messages posted and search them? Thank you! Richard Spacer       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HUNGARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message